Video Games Make You Less Manly?

Derek542 · October 6, 2011, 7:42pm

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m really having a hard time understanding the hate for video games. They are no different then any other time waster. If you work or study all day long what’s wrong with kicking back and playin a video game?

I will never get to fly an F18, play in the NFL, or anything else, but it’s pretty fun to live out that fantasy in a game.

Every generation has some technology that they waste time with. I barely watch TV, but my parents generation loves the shit out of it. How many people use to go the the theater every chance they got before that. This old fuck Williams probably sat in front of a damn radio and listened to it every time his “dad” put it on. Is reading for pure enjoyment any different? I don’t think so.

As long as you are productive in life (that’s the key) then who cares if you waste a couple hours a day playing a game? If it’s how you relax and it makes your life more enjoyable what’s the problem? [/quote]

the instant gratification of blowing someones head off, or scoring a touchdown.
the constant over stimulation that one would not get anywhere else.
the inability to interact within social circles due to constant interaction with machines.
the fact that within hours they are able to achieve something in a game where in the real world, it takes years to achieve.

for a start.
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I’m not seeing you point really.

How is winning or scoring a kill in a game any more gratifying then any other activity that you attempt? Some kids would never see any playing time in any sport so they just don’t get to try it because games aren’t real?

Why are video games more stimulating than anything else?

Society has changed. We interact with machines all day long. Why should how we relax be any different? Also I “interact” with people online that I cannot interact with otherwise because we live states and even countries apart (and I;m referring to people I actually know not randoms).

What can you possibly achieve in a game that would take years to otherwise accomplish? Become an NCAA superstar, unlikely. Rush Normandy, impossible. I really doubt most kids hit the bench press in Duke Nukem and thought, “damn I must be ripped now! Look at my pecs man!”
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What are your thoughts on Big Game Hunter?

Even fat kids who don’t make the cut can pull a trigger.[/quote]

True, but it’s pretty expensive to go on a big game hunt. Plus I thought big fat kids were big game? [/quote]

I can’t shoot them!!!

Besides, all you really need are a license (costs less than a video game)

A gun (can be borrowed or purchased used for a video game console)

And public hunting land (plentiful in most states)

Of course a private ranch or lease is better but animals live on public land too.

And bullets cost like ten bucks for a box, less than a second remote.

And you can actually shoot an animal. And spend quality time with friends. And get plastered by a bonfire and shock yourself with the stupidity alcohol, guns, fire and a video camera during a black out drunk fest can lead to.

And wonder why you are still alive.

Way better than a game.
[/quote]

And use blanks and pretend to shoot each other.

All get naked and circle jerk…wait not that.[/quote]
You can’t tell me the fear of having been shot isn’t more thrilling than some robot getting blown up by a bazooka ray 205 and some shit.

How alive do you think that guy felt after he knew he wasn’t shot? Probably very even if he was ungreatful.

I’ve never done the circle jerk thing, not that I remember. But trains… lets just say college was a mixture of drugs, booze and porn style sex for me with a few tests thrown in.

way more fun than the halo playing classmates who began to look like sun allergic zombies.[/quote]

How you like me now, I got a tan.

HoustonGuy · October 6, 2011, 7:42pm

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
look like sun allergic zombies.[/quote]

this describes Gingers you anti-Ginger Son of a Bitch.

you are whats wrong with this society.

( gives Houston the serious stink-eye )[/quote]Hahahaha, yeah but look at that ginger kid, he’s holding a real mitt!

It doesn’t count if he can’t help it.

I bet the halo fuckers don’t even know the joy of smelling a mit as you pull it out of the closet each new season. Tragedy.

SSC · October 6, 2011, 7:43pm

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Right and as I said in another comment not everyone is like you and I. Some people either can’t or don’t want to save every penny they have to go on that fishing trip. To them playing video games is their pastime. Who am I to say their pastime isn’t as good or worth as mine simply because I don’t agree with it?

If they are neglecting their duties to family or work then yes playing excessively is a problem, but if it is the pastime they want to pursue and it doesn’t interfere with their responsibilities I say go for it.

And yes if some said, “I’m a boxer because I play Fight Night.” It would be absurd and no one in their right mind would even acknowledge them.
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Very good points, especially the last one. Apparently there are a lot of these kinds of gamers running around making claims to be something IRL that they play in a videogame.

…but I’ve never met one. Ever?

anon50325502 · October 6, 2011, 7:44pm

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m really having a hard time understanding the hate for video games. They are no different then any other time waster. If you work or study all day long what’s wrong with kicking back and playin a video game?

I will never get to fly an F18, play in the NFL, or anything else, but it’s pretty fun to live out that fantasy in a game.

Every generation has some technology that they waste time with. I barely watch TV, but my parents generation loves the shit out of it. How many people use to go the the theater every chance they got before that. This old fuck Williams probably sat in front of a damn radio and listened to it every time his “dad” put it on. Is reading for pure enjoyment any different? I don’t think so.

As long as you are productive in life (that’s the key) then who cares if you waste a couple hours a day playing a game? If it’s how you relax and it makes your life more enjoyable what’s the problem? [/quote]

To an extent I agree and I see your point.

But to me, watching a play at the theatre - going to see Macbeth or Henry V - there’s more to that than playing world of fuckin warcraft. And reading for enjoyment is one of the most intensely educational things you can do after you leave school - comparing that to a video game is also kind of ridiculous.

No, you can’t fly an f-18, but you could take flying lessons in a real plane. Or join a flag football league.

I don’t know. It’s kind of a credo for my life that I want to spend my time DOING, not thinking about doing or pretending to do or contemplating doing.

Why live a fantasy when you could do it in real life? Live the real experience? Shoot a real gun?

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I see your point and agree with you. If you like boxing you should at least try it. I like MMA. So I spent a year doing BJJ, boxing, and wrestling lesson. It was fun, but in total cost over a $1000 dollars. Not everyone has that kind of money to try something out.

The same goes with shooting guns or whatever. These things cost money and have to be available and they just aren’t for everyone.

I personally would rather try something in real life before I tried something on a game, but the reality is it is easier and more cost effective to play a boxing game than to join a boxing gym. The time commitment is also an issue. Maybe your only free time is from 9pm-11pm so your only option is games. I don’t know of many martial arts that instruct that late. My point is priorities come first and video games fit the extra time for relaxing better than joining a football league or what have you.

I agree though people should try things in real life if they can over games, but not everyone agrees with you or I in that regard. [/quote]So should people forget their passions, settle for their financial station in life and let video games lull them in to an altered reality?

Or should they analyze their situation, notice a gap between what they have and what they want, use the balls dangling between their legs for the first time ever and act to close the gap?

Again, it’s one thing to play here and there, it’s another to let video games replace life.

BJJ is super fun btw. I wrestled in HS and continued on with bjj for awhile. Before it was uber trendy btw.

Now I’m skinny fat and working on getting back to my studly self and a five year old could kick my ass.

Maybe I should just say fuck it and play UFC video games…
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For some people their only drive is to work hard enough so that they can persue their passion. For some that could be video games. You and I might say, “really dude get a life,” but he could in turn say, “Oh ya well you spend hour after hour in the gym and think that’s a waste of time.” My point is if a person wants to waste their life living in a fantasy world and they have the means to do so then who am I to say otherwise. It’s not preference, but for some people it might be. If it’s what you are passionate about then it can’t be a waste IMO.

It’s a hell of a lot easier to play UFC then role with a guy 30 lbs heavier then you at least. [/quote]
What I’m hearing you say is you need to punch a game nerd in the face and then ask him whose hobby is better.

And the idea that someone would play UFC because rolling for real is hard only proves my point. Games are pussifying people which answers your original question. / Thread[/quote]

Most people, men even, would never role in their life. I don’t think it’s because they are pussies or it’s hard. It’s just not for everyone.

Derek542 · October 6, 2011, 7:44pm

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
look like sun allergic zombies.[/quote]

this describes Gingers you anti-Ginger Son of a Bitch.

you are whats wrong with this society.

( gives Houston the serious stink-eye )[/quote]

I bet the halo fuckers don’t even know the joy of smelling a mit as you pull it out of the closet each new season. Tragedy.
[/quote]

Is that a sexual innuendo about cougars?

Edgy · October 6, 2011, 7:45pm

the Marine gets the Arguing-without-really-arguing award for the day.

Derek542 · October 6, 2011, 7:49pm

[quote]Edgy wrote:
the Marine gets the Arguing-without-really-arguing award for the day.[/quote]

HoustonGuy · October 6, 2011, 7:49pm

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m really having a hard time understanding the hate for video games. They are no different then any other time waster. If you work or study all day long what’s wrong with kicking back and playin a video game?

I will never get to fly an F18, play in the NFL, or anything else, but it’s pretty fun to live out that fantasy in a game.

Every generation has some technology that they waste time with. I barely watch TV, but my parents generation loves the shit out of it. How many people use to go the the theater every chance they got before that. This old fuck Williams probably sat in front of a damn radio and listened to it every time his “dad” put it on. Is reading for pure enjoyment any different? I don’t think so.

As long as you are productive in life (that’s the key) then who cares if you waste a couple hours a day playing a game? If it’s how you relax and it makes your life more enjoyable what’s the problem? [/quote]

the instant gratification of blowing someones head off, or scoring a touchdown.
the constant over stimulation that one would not get anywhere else.
the inability to interact within social circles due to constant interaction with machines.
the fact that within hours they are able to achieve something in a game where in the real world, it takes years to achieve.

for a start.
[/quote]

I’m not seeing you point really.

How is winning or scoring a kill in a game any more gratifying then any other activity that you attempt? Some kids would never see any playing time in any sport so they just don’t get to try it because games aren’t real?

Why are video games more stimulating than anything else?

Society has changed. We interact with machines all day long. Why should how we relax be any different? Also I “interact” with people online that I cannot interact with otherwise because we live states and even countries apart (and I;m referring to people I actually know not randoms).

What can you possibly achieve in a game that would take years to otherwise accomplish? Become an NCAA superstar, unlikely. Rush Normandy, impossible. I really doubt most kids hit the bench press in Duke Nukem and thought, “damn I must be ripped now! Look at my pecs man!”
[/quote]
What are your thoughts on Big Game Hunter?

Even fat kids who don’t make the cut can pull a trigger.[/quote]

True, but it’s pretty expensive to go on a big game hunt. Plus I thought big fat kids were big game? [/quote]

I can’t shoot them!!!

Besides, all you really need are a license (costs less than a video game)

A gun (can be borrowed or purchased used for a video game console)

And public hunting land (plentiful in most states)

Of course a private ranch or lease is better but animals live on public land too.

And bullets cost like ten bucks for a box, less than a second remote.

And you can actually shoot an animal. And spend quality time with friends. And get plastered by a bonfire and shock yourself with the stupidity alcohol, guns, fire and a video camera during a black out drunk fest can lead to.

And wonder why you are still alive.

Way better than a game.
[/quote]

And use blanks and pretend to shoot each other.

All get naked and circle jerk…wait not that.[/quote]
You can’t tell me the fear of having been shot isn’t more thrilling than some robot getting blown up by a bazooka ray 205 and some shit.

How alive do you think that guy felt after he knew he wasn’t shot? Probably very even if he was ungreatful.

I’ve never done the circle jerk thing, not that I remember. But trains… lets just say college was a mixture of drugs, booze and porn style sex for me with a few tests thrown in.

way more fun than the halo playing classmates who began to look like sun allergic zombies.[/quote]

How you like me now, I got a tan. [/quote]If Bill Gates can catch a football and/or bag a girl without her knowing of his money I will castrate myself on video.

Wait… I take that second part back. He did have enough balls to see his vision through even if it did castrate entire following generations. Pretty alpha if you ask me. Plus money just cuts the bullshit.

I always wonder how women feel like they have the upper hand? I mean are they as cheap as a few drinks really? $50 additional on the tab equals free reign on the asshole and they are winning?

Any posters have insight to gold mining logic? I mean you hit it and quit it right? What do they really get to keep but a sore hole, probably some HPV and a hangover?

Christine · October 6, 2011, 7:50pm

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:
I would buy me a big 'ole sail boat and hire a crew of… um… experienced… um… sailors.
And we would sail around the world while stopping at all the best diving spots.[/quote]

no comment on what I think your old roomie was doing with your fine set of hams?[/quote]

Guy was a mess. Within two weeks of moving into my house he was fired from his job and his girlfriend broke up with him.

He did get another job, but quit that one after two weeks. He then parked himself in my spare bedroom and played WOW while snorting any extra cash he had. It was pathetic.

I don’t want to think about what he would whack off to.[/quote]
So… if our fishing trip ever does come to fruition, should I include blow or is that disgusting because my answer falls on either side…[/quote]

I don’t use, but being around it doesn’t bother me. (unless you park yourself in my spare bedroom playing WOW all day long and then whine about why your life is so bad.)[/quote]I will never park myself in any spare bedroom. Is he typical of your friends?

What do you like? Beer, wine, hard booze… do you still smoke pot?
[/quote]

God, no, not typical. I was just trying to be nice and help someone out who was in a bad spot.

Don’t smoke pot either (Though most of my friends do, hey, I live in Oregon, I could probably get you some good bud).

Microbrews and wine.[/quote]

I bet you could get me some good bud…

I will say my proximity to Mexico makes good coke (fairly uncut this early on the distribution line) and weed easy to come by but I do like the special stuff with names you northwesterners get from the canadians.

I would like to introduce you to Saint Arnolds Brewery if you havn’t already tasted it. The oldest microbrewery in Texas, right here in Houston of course.

I dig a glass of shiraz while soaking in a salt bath, beer seems more appropriate for fishing but you can have what ever you want. Just don’t expect fancy breathing glasses.

My ultimate goal is to brew beer, make it awesome, gain tap space at bars and then open a rum distillary in the Caribbean to sell through my beer channels.

I would live the rest of my days on island time fishing, scuba diving and dancing the night away to my hearts content.

This is a lofty goal, but a real goal and not a pipe dream to be buried in video games. Even if I only hit the beer I’d be fine. I would love to walk in to a bar and order my own beer.

I think I’d put my face on the label.
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Flesh eating cocaine

Those are very nice goals. I approve!

Will you use your TexasGuy avatar for the the label?[/quote]
D.A.R.E. Propaganda.

And yes of course I will use TG avatar. I will put it on the pils. Should be a national top seller. I mean I could probably be a model if I wanted too.

I think for the stout thouhg I’d have to go with the clean shaven look. Stouts are prominent, like my jaw line.

I’d better hurry up and take pics though. The last year or so I’ve noticed increasing amounts of hair in my hands during shampoo sessions. Nothing noticeable for the big picture yet but the closer I get to thirty (29 Nov.19) the more I realize my bald uncles and dad may be foreshadowing.

Luckily I have a fantastic head, which I know from shaving it in HS once, and I will age well. I want hair on my bottles though.
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Well, I see we are both scorpios.

We can never get married (thank goodness!)

Scorpio and Scorpio compatibility
These two are capable to light the fire even in the water. The problem is that they are too similar. They are both resolute, both are proprietors, and both have awful characters. They are highly jealous and demanding. They are so intense that every little storm quickly becomes a hurricane. Both are sulky, brooding, possessive. Both are in a continual struggle to force the other to relinquish control. If they have different opinions about something, it may result in big cracks in their relationship, and as a result the mutual understanding between them will evaporate. Their connection can not last long outside a warm atmosphere of the bedroom. The connection is extraordinary. The marriage is a real disaster!

Bald is okay (Walter White), just as long as you go all in once it gets too bad.

HoustonGuy · October 6, 2011, 7:51pm

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
look like sun allergic zombies.[/quote]

this describes Gingers you anti-Ginger Son of a Bitch.

you are whats wrong with this society.

( gives Houston the serious stink-eye )[/quote]

I bet the halo fuckers don’t even know the joy of smelling a mit as you pull it out of the closet each new season. Tragedy.
[/quote]

Is that a sexual innuendo about cougars? [/quote]Hahahahahahaha!! Don’t forget the oil, would be a shame to split the threads.

Derek542 · October 6, 2011, 7:54pm

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m really having a hard time understanding the hate for video games. They are no different then any other time waster. If you work or study all day long what’s wrong with kicking back and playin a video game?

I will never get to fly an F18, play in the NFL, or anything else, but it’s pretty fun to live out that fantasy in a game.

Every generation has some technology that they waste time with. I barely watch TV, but my parents generation loves the shit out of it. How many people use to go the the theater every chance they got before that. This old fuck Williams probably sat in front of a damn radio and listened to it every time his “dad” put it on. Is reading for pure enjoyment any different? I don’t think so.

As long as you are productive in life (that’s the key) then who cares if you waste a couple hours a day playing a game? If it’s how you relax and it makes your life more enjoyable what’s the problem? [/quote]

the instant gratification of blowing someones head off, or scoring a touchdown.
the constant over stimulation that one would not get anywhere else.
the inability to interact within social circles due to constant interaction with machines.
the fact that within hours they are able to achieve something in a game where in the real world, it takes years to achieve.

for a start.
[/quote]

I’m not seeing you point really.

How is winning or scoring a kill in a game any more gratifying then any other activity that you attempt? Some kids would never see any playing time in any sport so they just don’t get to try it because games aren’t real?

Why are video games more stimulating than anything else?

Society has changed. We interact with machines all day long. Why should how we relax be any different? Also I “interact” with people online that I cannot interact with otherwise because we live states and even countries apart (and I;m referring to people I actually know not randoms).

What can you possibly achieve in a game that would take years to otherwise accomplish? Become an NCAA superstar, unlikely. Rush Normandy, impossible. I really doubt most kids hit the bench press in Duke Nukem and thought, “damn I must be ripped now! Look at my pecs man!”
[/quote]
What are your thoughts on Big Game Hunter?

Even fat kids who don’t make the cut can pull a trigger.[/quote]

True, but it’s pretty expensive to go on a big game hunt. Plus I thought big fat kids were big game? [/quote]

I can’t shoot them!!!

Besides, all you really need are a license (costs less than a video game)

A gun (can be borrowed or purchased used for a video game console)

And public hunting land (plentiful in most states)

Of course a private ranch or lease is better but animals live on public land too.

And bullets cost like ten bucks for a box, less than a second remote.

And you can actually shoot an animal. And spend quality time with friends. And get plastered by a bonfire and shock yourself with the stupidity alcohol, guns, fire and a video camera during a black out drunk fest can lead to.

And wonder why you are still alive.

Way better than a game.
[/quote]

And use blanks and pretend to shoot each other.

All get naked and circle jerk…wait not that.[/quote]
You can’t tell me the fear of having been shot isn’t more thrilling than some robot getting blown up by a bazooka ray 205 and some shit.

How alive do you think that guy felt after he knew he wasn’t shot? Probably very even if he was ungreatful.

I’ve never done the circle jerk thing, not that I remember. But trains… lets just say college was a mixture of drugs, booze and porn style sex for me with a few tests thrown in.

way more fun than the halo playing classmates who began to look like sun allergic zombies.[/quote]

How you like me now, I got a tan. [/quote]

If Bill Gates can catch a football and/or bag a girl without her knowing of his money I will castrate myself on video.

[/quote]

Dude has money he can hire a football team to catch the ball.

He has woman delivered to his house if he wanted to and he doesnt have to say a word. Like a boss.

Nerdyest looking MF of all time but could buy your whole existence.

The topic was manliness and the loss with video games.

Question is who decides what is manly and what that term really means.

anon50325502 · October 6, 2011, 7:55pm

[quote]Edgy wrote:
the Marine gets the Arguing-without-really-arguing award for the day.[/quote]

I’d like to thank the academy…

SteelyD · October 6, 2011, 8:00pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

I see your point and agree with you. If you like boxing you should at least try it. I like MMA. So I spent a year doing BJJ, boxing, and wrestling lesson. It was fun, but in total cost over a $1000 dollars. Not everyone has that kind of money to try something out.

The same goes with shooting guns or whatever. These things cost money and have to be available and they just aren’t for everyone.

I personally would rather try something in real life before I tried something on a game, but the reality is it is easier and more cost effective to play a boxing game than to join a boxing gym. The time commitment is also an issue. Maybe your only free time is from 9pm-11pm so your only option is games. I don’t know of many martial arts that instruct that late. My point is priorities come first and video games fit the extra time for relaxing better than joining a football league or what have you.

I agree though people should try things in real life if they can over games, but not everyone agrees with you or I in that regard. [/quote]

I don’t mean to offend, but these things are all simply excuses - the same excuses that people who want to “get huge” but don’t want to put in the work give us, and we lambaste them for.

Boxing is my hobby one might say. People hear that, and kinda nod their head go “Damn, alright.” It’s a cool thing. Just like how some of the bigger guys get comments about lifting all the time from dudes who are envious or whatever. It’s a thing YOU did, an accomplishment,if you will, that you put in time and earned the right to call yourself a boxer or a bodybuilder cause you been on that grind.

It’s not the same if you say, “Well I play Fight Night a lot.”

I agree shit costs money and it ain’t easy, but that’s life. I go fishing only a few times a year, but there’s no way any video game can come close to being on the Atlantic at 6 a.m. trolling for shark or tuna.

It’s worth me saving that money to DO IT.

What it comes down to is that all those years ago, people lived because there was no other choice. Now they have a choice, and many people are not living… their just pretending too.

And keep in mind, I like video games. I used to play them all time, like any other guy I played Madden with my buddies or whatever… but it really consumed a lot of time and I didn’t like that.

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I agree with Irish. If anyone is actually playing games as a substitute for real life experience, they have issues.

I can do tons of shit in video games that I can’t do in real life…but turning that into “well, I can’t find a boxing gym so I’ll just play boxing games” is crazy.

I ride a motorcycle. I would never have bought a game instead of my first bike with an excuse of “well, motorcycles are so expensive…and this game is only 40 bucks!”[/quote]

I don’t disagree with anyone’s line of thinking, however, the only way I can fly WWII aircraft (or spaceships) is video games (and I guess I’d have to add “kill” “people”).

Now, where did I put that rocket launcher?

anon50325502 · October 6, 2011, 8:02pm

I’m surprised he’s reading and not playing a video game.

Derek542 · October 6, 2011, 8:04pm

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m surprised he’s reading and not playing a video game. [/quote]

WTF is that?

Edgy · October 6, 2011, 8:05pm

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m surprised he’s reading and not playing a video game. [/quote]

AND how did he come up with those colors? you Never mix a fall with a spring.

never~

anon50325502 · October 6, 2011, 8:07pm

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m surprised he’s reading and not playing a video game. [/quote]

AND how did he come up with those colors? you Never mix a fall with a spring.

never~[/quote]

I know…some people I swear. No class.

anon50325502 · October 6, 2011, 8:09pm

Here we go a game we all can enjoy.

Derek542 · October 6, 2011, 8:10pm

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Here we go a game we all can enjoy. [/quote]

That was what Prof X was saying will happen in the future.

HoustonGuy · October 6, 2011, 8:10pm