Vick Indicted!

Vick faces sentencing:

Ready to judge

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
December 9, 2007

RICHMOND, Va. Constructed in Italianate architecture nearly 150 years ago, the Lewis F. Powell Jr. United States Courthouse here boasts an impressive front, with doors that lead onto Main Street.

The federal judicial system prohibits anyone from bringing cell phones, computers or any electronic communication device into its courtrooms, such as the third floor one that former NFL star Michael Vick will be sentenced in Monday on charges stemming from a dog fighting ring.

As a result, the sentence Judge Henry E. Hudson renders probably won’t be communicated to the masses expected to assemble across the street from those front doors until someone bursts out and shouts the news.

Like something out of an old movie.

What gets said could determine what kind of new drama unfolds.

Vick reached a plea agreement with federal authorities in August and has begun serving time in the Northern Neck Regional Jail in Warsaw, Va. The length of his sentence, however, is up to Judge Hudson. While the actual sentencing recommendations from both the government and Vick are under seal, a number of media reports contend it calls for 12 to 18 months.

If Hudson goes along with that, Vick, 27, could be free to return to the NFL for the 2009 season, although league commissioner Roger Goddell could hand down an additional suspension.

Hudson, however, can sentence Vick to up to five years in federal prison or as little as time served. Neither extreme is likely, but where the sentence falls on the sliding scale if there is a surprise either in leniency or harshness then the reaction from the crowd assembled outside could be wild.

The one constant of the Vick proceedings has been the throngs of passionate extremists both supporters and protesters that have converged on Main Street for each proceeding, not always on polite terms.

There have been shouting matches, near physical confrontations and name calling in a contentious scene that is charged up by the unmistakable and unavoidable fact that the sides break down almost exclusively along racial lines.

While the case of a man running a dog fighting ring is, almost by definition, devoid of race, and while none of the assembled have publicly wished to make it a racial issue, the fact is an estimated 90 to 95 percent of the Vick protesters are white. Meanwhile, 95 percent of the Vick fans are black; many bused up in an organized show of support from his hometown of Newport News, 80 miles southeast of here.

It has made the sidewalk across from those doors the front lines in a case that has divided parts of America in a way few could have envisioned. The result is a potentially combustible place, even with significant security.

The fervor of each group is almost complete. Some animal rights/anti-Vick signs and chants have called for his death or neutering. Some pro-Vick signs, songs and prayers have pled for complete freedom from an overzealous legal system.

After standing amidst them on both of Vick’s previous court appearances and watching things build up to where the smallest of sparks could ignite things, anything seems possible. Back at the arraignment in July, two men, after an intense shouting match, squared off before being separated by what appeared to be three bank security guards.

This could easily teeter from intense to ugly. That it hasn’t already may be as much coincidence and good fortune as anything.

Any kind of perceived victory by one side or the other a sentence that is either shorter or longer than anticipated is likely to be waved in the face of the other.

Judge Hudson is known by local court observers as “tough but fair.” In court he cuts a commanding presence.

He has sentenced two of Vick’s co-conspirators, Purnell A. Pearce and Quanis L. Phillips, to 18 and 21 months respectively, which may be a benchmark for Vick.

However, Vick was the final of four men associated with Bad Newz Kennels to plead guilty and often leniency is given to the first one to flip, not the last. He was also the financier of the entire operation, potentially adding severity. In addition, after looking Hudson in the eye and promising to avoid drugs and alcohol at his plea hearing in August, Vick tested positive for marijuana in September.

Monday’s proceeding is expected to include the government providing evidence of the operation, often in gruesome details, and testimony from Vick’s co-conspirators. Vick, too, will have a chance to speak.

Needless to say, Vick, once the NFL’s highest paid player, is represented by a high profile legal team.

It is impossible to predict what Hudson who called dog fighting “very cruel” in a sentencing of a Vick conspirator will think after all of the evidence and arguments are made. But somewhere in the back of his mind he must know that his decision will be subject to extensive analysis and have wide-reaching impact.

The crowd, out on that sidewalk on both sides of the dispute, will be waiting.

Which is why all eyes Monday afternoon will be on those courthouse doors here in Richmond, all ears on the sentence that gets shouted when someone finally emerges to spread Henry Hudson’s final word.


BREAKING NEWS!!!

ACCORDING TO SI.COM MICHAEL VICK WAS SENTENCED TO 23 MONTHS IN PRISON!

I will follow this up with more detailed info as it becomes available.

Thanks,
Mike

Vick gets 23-month sentence on dogfighting charges

RICHMOND, Va. – Michael Vick was sentenced to 23 months in prison Monday for his role in a dogfighting conspiracy that involved gambling and killing pit bulls.

U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson could have sentenced the suspended Atlanta Falcons quarterback to up to five years. Vick pleaded guilty in August, admitting he bankrolled the “Bad Newz Kennels” dogfighting operation and helped kill six to eight dogs.

Vick also received three years’ probation. With nearly a month already served, Vick would be scheduled for release in October 2009.

Vick, wearing a black-and-white prison jumpsuit, had no visible reaction when Hudson issued his punishment. Vick apologized to the court and his family.

In his plea agreement in August, Vick – who waived his right to appeal his sentence then – admitted bankrolling the dogfighting ring on his 15-acre property in rural southeastern Virginia and helping kill pit bulls that did not perform well in test fights. He also admitted providing money for bets on the fights but said he never shared in any winnings

If anybody is interested, ESPN is currently running a news story with more details on the sentencing.

Even after losing his endoresements people are still using his face to gain popularity. Guess Judge hudson is now the man.


I got a feeling he may know hamburgers but he is a shitty judge of character.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/12/10/vick.sentenced/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

This is an interesting video, it talks about how the judge was NOT influenced by celebrity endorsements for Vick. The list included: the mayor of Atlanta, George Foreman, and Hank Aaron.

This big point is that the judge stated he is NOT convinced Vick has fully accepted responsibility.

That wasn’t my point, my point was that the judge was making a name for himself by giving him more than what the prosecutors recommended.


http://www.housefront.com/PropertyDetail.aspx?propertyID=660646

Here is the info on Vick’s house for sale.

Here is a virtual tour:

http://www.wsbtv.com/slideshow/14801278/detail.html?taf=atl

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
That wasn’t my point, my point was that the judge was making a name for himself by giving him more than what the prosecutors recommended.[/quote]

Hi Airtruth,

I hope you don’t think my last post was in response to this one. I didn’t even notice your post before this one until now. I was just fishing for whatever info I could get and didn’t notice what other people were posting.

To answer your point about the judge, special mention of that issue was brought up about it during an episode of ESPN’s outside the lines. ESPN’s legal analyst made the following points. The analyst (a former lawyer) claimed he had worked in the past with the judge and said that he wasn’t the kind of judge who would award heavier sentences for attention. I will try and get a link to other showtimes for you but the analyst gave the following reasons why Vick got a heavier sentence:

a. Despite claiming that he (vick) was cooperative and forthright, the judge noted that Vick claimed to be innocent until he co defendents turned sides.

b. Vick performed extremely poorly on an FBI lie detector test (I did not remember reading about this test myself) which concerned not only his involvement but his degree of involvement in the crime

c. The judge was not impressed by the defense put up in that Vick’s tough background was brought up. The judge stated that Vick had plenty of time and resources to move and grow away from that past.

d. Vick failed a drug test during the trial period.

I will have more info for you soon but I just got home from work.

thanks,
Mike Cruickshank

Hi Airtruth,

Dan Wetzel does a much better job than I did explaining the situation with the judge.

thanks,
Mike Cruickshank

Vick spit on the legal system

By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
December 10, 2007

RICHMOND, Va. �?? He chomped on chewing gum and wore his Nike Air Force 1 Mids �?? bright white to match the stripes on his prison garb �?? as he walked into federal court Monday to answer for his mistakes.
Only some of the mistakes that may haunt Michael Vick most, the ones that hurt his chances of ever again racing his Nikes around the NFL and should eat him up on the long, lonely nights behind bars are the one’s he committed since pleading guilty in connection to a dog-fighting ring.
Vick should have faced a sentence of 12-18 months after accepting a plea deal to conspiracy charges in August and promising full cooperation, honesty and to “make better decisions.”

Instead he made more bad ones, U.S. Attorneys claiming he failed to fully admit or take responsibility for his actions, practiced multiple counts of deception and tested positive for marijuana just weeks after promising the judge he’d avoid drugs.

Those mind-numbing mistakes not only sent his sentencing guidelines to 18-24 months, but played a part in Judge Henry Hudson’s decision to lean on the high side and send him away for 23 months. Even with good behavior and time served he won’t be released until around June 2009.
Moreover, Vick still faces state charges and remains on indefinite suspension from the NFL, where he was once the league’s highest paid player. Neither situation was helped by Monday’s revelations.
Vick looked crushed at the sentencing, offering a distraught look to his family, some of whom wept at its reading.

But even the staunchest Vick supporter �?? the ones who believe the prison term is not only too lengthy but an unnecessary rehabilitation tool for someone with no prior convictions, little likelihood of repeat behavior and is a minimal threat to society �?? can only stand in puzzlement at Vick’s conduct.

No matter what you think of the crime, the prosecution or the punishment, everyone knows that when given the chance to work the legal system for leniency you don’t just turn and spit in its eye.
The failed drug test alone was inexplicable. Just 17 days after promising to avoid drugs and alcohol, Vick smoked marijuana. The next day he took a drug test, which he failed, and then lied to an investigator about taking drugs.

His attorney, Billy Martin, was stuck trying to pull a rabbit out of his hat, starting one explanation with the unenviable legal phrase “moving to the smoking marijuana.” Martin’s defense: That Vick was depressed and “self-medicating.”

Hudson kept a straight face but was clearly unmoved.
Then there were Vick’s “deception” with federal authorities, at least six such acts according to U.S. Attorney Michael Gill, even after the suspended Atlanta Falcon had agreed to fully cooperate.
Vick, for instance, initially refused to admit he took part in the hanging of a dog. He claimed instead that he carried the underperforming dog over to co-conspirator Quanis Phillips, who then hung him. But Phillips had stated that Vick had carried the dog over and after Phillips slipped a noose around its neck, Vick let the dog drop.

“He denied having hands on involvement in killing the dogs,” Gill said. “He made a false statement; it was a calculated effort to hide the truth.”
Gill said Vick eventually admitted to killing two dogs, “one by drowning, one by hanging.”
There was also a failed lie detector test which, while not admissible as evidence, obviously angered Gill who argued (successfully) against any leniency.

Vick’s repeated performances were apparently so twisted, confusing and inconsistent that everyone wound up believing his codefendants over him, despite the fact they have lengthy criminal records.

“These statements are inconsistent with statements by his codefendants,” Hudson ruled. “(Vick) hasn’t demonstrated the necessary level of candor.”
If Vick had fully cooperated, told the truth and kept clear of drugs, he could have received as little as 12 months, which with good behavior could have seen him free by next September.

Instead he got longer sentences than either of his two former partners (18 and 21 months) despite their prior records and direct responsibilities with Bad Newz Kennels.

The sentencing was completely one-sided for the U.S. Attorneys. Vick’s lawyers could barely muster a defense, left to argue psychological theories and the appeal of mercy. Vick mustered a short speech, apologizing to some people and admitting “I’ve used poor judgment,” but at that point it didn’t appear anyone in power believed him.
It was such a whitewash that a proceeding that was predicted to last as long as four hours took a little over 45 minutes.

The sentence came down so soon that the expected crowd had just begun to gather outside the courthouse. A group of about 50 people �?? divided by Vick supporters and animal rights activists �?? traded signs, songs and arguments but the entire scene was subdued.

Vick, it turns out, did almost as much damage to himself with his plea deal as the crime itself. Worse, his performance with the feds can’t be reassuring to the NFL. He’s done little to show he is a changed man who deserves to be immediately reinstated upon completion of his prison term.
Conceivably, Vick could be in a training camp as soon as July 2009, trying to work off the prison rust on what would then be his 29-year-old body. But the league is likely to make him sit an additional year or, who knows, even more. After Monday, his credibility appears to be at zero.
“I’m willing to say that should Michael Vick get another chance either in society or the NFL, he will take full advantage of it,” Martin said.
Perhaps he will. But his last chance didn’t go so well.

Given every opportunity to make up for his dog-fighting crimes, to live up to his word, to prove to everyone that this was just a lapse in judgment of a good man, he did just about everything wrong.
Back in his cell Monday night, that’s the part that ought to haunt him the most.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/george_dohrmann/12/10/vick/index.html?eref=T1

Hi Airtruth,

I think George Dohrman nails this perfectly. Basically Vick was punished more severely because “He wasn’t honest until he was forced to be honest”.

The cold, hard truth
Vick’s inability to be honest made sentence worse
Posted: Monday December 10, 2007 6:02PM; Updated: Monday December 10, 2007 6:52PM

Think back to August, to the day Michael Vick went before the cameras after reaching a plea agreement with prosecutors on charges that he financed and participated in a dogfighting operation. He expressed remorse for what he had done and the many fans he had disappointed. Afterward, pundits remarked how Vick had been “forthcoming” and “honest” and “contrite.” His supporters said he was accepting responsibility for his mistakes, the first step in rebuilding his image and life.

But behind the scenes, Vick was still dancing around the truth. He tried to avoid admitting that he killed dogs, and that evasiveness likely played a role in him getting a 23-month sentence, which exceeded the 12-to-18 months recommended by prosecutors.
In Monday’s hearing, Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Gill revealed that even after reaching his plea agreement, Vick “denied actually having hands-on involvement in the killing of dogs.” He maintained that stance for weeks, claiming that co-conspirators Quanis Phillips and Purnell Peace hung and drowned the dogs.

But then Vick was given a polygraph on Oct. 12, administered by the FBI, and he was evasive when asked about his role in the killings. Near the end of the examination, as he was pressed on the issue, Vick reportedly said, “If you want me to admit it, I did it all. I did everything.” Finally, he explained his role: “I carried a dog over to Phillips, who tied a rope around its neck. I dropped the dog.”

It was a disturbing admission and, for federal Judge Henry Hudson, it took too long to come. Vick had to fail a lie detector test to finally admit he did more than stand by as his minions killed animals that didn’t want to fight for them. Only then was he truly “forthcoming” and “honest” and “contrite.”
“I’m not convinced you’ve fully accepted responsibility,” Hudson told Vick on Monday before announcing his sentence.

One of the many lessons to be learned from the Vick saga is the proper way to navigate a disaster of this magnitude, which first and foremost must include a thorough admission of wrongdoing. Had Vick admitted the totality of his role to the Surrey County prosecutor in April, the federal government might never have gotten involved in the case and Vick would have probably skated by with only probation. Had he been the first to go the feds with details of Bad Newz Kennels’ dealings, he likely would have received no worse than the 18 months Peace got. And had he truly been honest in August, had he admitted immediately how he had helped kill dogs, Hudson might have shaved a few months off his sentence.
Vick had three opportunities to come clean and he chose not to. It is silly that a 27-year-old millionaire didn’t know the value of telling the truth – most of us are taught that before enrolling in kindergarten. But Vick knows now, and he will have months in prison to let that lesson sink in.

Dogfighting proponents will offer a different lesson learned from the Vick case: if you participate in the bloodsport, it can ruin your life.

“The Vick case has had a transformative effect on the issue of dogfighting in America,” Wayne Parcelle, president of the Humane Society of America, said in a statement. “Not only has Bad Newz Kennels been shut down, but there is a newfound awareness and resolve. There has been a tripling in arrests of dogfighters since the Vick case came to light.”
It has always been difficult for the public to strike a balance between wanting to see Vick punished for his actions, while also recognizing his crimes fall short of what other athletes have done. After all, he didn’t assault a woman or shoot a man. When those arguments are made now, and when Vick is portrayed once again as some kind of victim of a witch hunt by PETA or the HSUS, I hope his defenders include the most pertinent of facts:
Vick wasn’t honest until he was forced to be honest. And liars deserve to be punished.

Here is a somewhat sobering look at Vick’s future after jail:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/don_banks/12/10/vick.react/index.html?eref=T1

Can Vick come back?
With jail sentence now set, will he play in NFL again?
Posted: Monday December 10, 2007 3:24PM; Updated: Monday December 10, 2007 5:04PM

As we have been virtually from Day 1 of the long Michael Vick saga, we’re once again in uncharted territory. The length of Vick’s prison sentence has finally been determined, but it’s still hard to know how much time, if any, will be left in his NFL playing career when he’s done paying for his involvement in that sordid dog-fighting ring.

All we can do is the same math that Vick’s doing today. And the numbers are harsh, harsher than many expected. Sentenced to 23 months in prison, Vick has to start with the worst-case scenario that he’ll miss three full seasons in the middle of his career – 2007, 2008 and 2009 – before trying to return to the field at age 30 in 2010.

An early parole for good behavior might shorten his time away from the game to a best-case scenario of two years, but even then there are variables we still can’t know. Will the NFL add a suspension to the mix, thereby lengthening his absence from the field? Will the state of Virginia continue with its charges against Vick and his fellow dog-fighters, perhaps increasing his time behind bars?

And how many teams will even consider signing Vick in three years, when the layer of rust on his skills has reached an almost unprecedented level? As I wrote in August, opinions around the NFL are pessimistic about whether Vick will ever again be the world-class athlete he was prior to 2007. And Monday’s news, and how it furthered the timeline of Vick’s return to the league, only seemed to decrease his likelihood of ever again starring on the NFL stage.
"If Michael Vick can come back after three years away from the game and play at the level we saw him play a year ago, rushing for 1,000 yards, it’d be almost unfair and you’d have to think that God has mistreated a lot of us,‘’ Vikings receivers coach and former Falcons assistant George Stewart told me Monday afternoon.

"If Michael Vick has the ability to do that, and I’m not trying to put him in the class of Muhammad Ali, but that’s the only name that comes to mind when you try and think of a guy who was away from it for quite a while and then returned to compete a high level.‘’

Stewart was the Falcons’ receivers coach from 2003-'06, spending four full years with Vick. He knows him well, likes him, and is hoping for the best whenever Vick’s comeback is finally launched. But his expectations are not high.

"To be a quarterback and lay off for three years, with everything you have to put into it, that’s asking a lot,‘’ Stewart said. "If there’s a person who could get it done, it’d be him. Michael Vick may have a flash or two, he’ll have moments where he competes at a high level, but it will never be the same Michael Vick. If he does, the rest of us will have been cheated by God.‘’
It’s somehow fitting that Vick’s sentencing came just hours before the Falcons host their division rival New Orleans Saints at the Georgia Dome on Monday Night Football. Atlanta, its season in tatters almost since the day the Vick story broke, will be starting Chris Redman at quarterback, its third different replacement for Vick this season.

This much is clearer than ever in Atlanta: The Falcons won’t be the team that welcomes Vick back into the NFL in 2010. Team owner Arthur Blank issued a statement just after Vick’s sentence was announced, and it read in part like a farewell.

"This is a difficult day for Michael’s family and for a lot of us, including many of our players and fans who have been emotionally invested in Michael over the years,‘’ Blank’s statement said. "We sincerely hope that Michael will use this time to continue to focus his efforts on making positive changes in his life, and we wish him well in that regard.‘’

I couldn’t help but notice that Blank didn’t entertain any thought of a possible return to the NFL by Vick should his efforts to change his life succeed, and that he used the past tense when speaking of the emotional investment that so many in Atlanta had for No. 7.

If Vick ever makes it back to the NFL, it will not be in the form we saw him in his first six seasons in the league, as a celebrated franchise quarterback with the rarest of athletic skills. People within the league I talked to on Monday were at a loss to project what Vick might have left as a player once he’s 30 and coming off three years out of the game.

"The key word is unprecedented,‘’ said one veteran NFL general manager. "I don’t know of anyone who’s been away from the game that long a time and then come back to prominence. He’s got a unique skill set. But will he still have it if he sits out that long? Can he get back the place where he was a year ago? I just don’t know. I don’t know anyone who can project where he’ll be mentally or physically at that point.

"I don’t think there’s anyone that’s going to just turn the keys of their team over to him in three years time. I don’t see that. But there’s just no reference point for someone who sat out that length of time and came back and played any position, let alone quarterback.‘’

I do get the growing sense within the league that if Vick does his time honorably and shows real changes in his life, some sort of on-field opportunity will await him when he regains his freedom. After all, it will only take one team to give him that coveted second chance.

"We have a great capacity to forgive once punishment has been served,‘’ said the veteran general manager. "I believe they’ll be a number of teams interested to see what he still has. They’ll be people who want to see if he still has that magic ability. But it’s such new ground to try and project his future.
"I certainly wouldn’t want to say he can or can’t make it back. My gut is I kind of hope he does. It has been a tremendous amount of punishment he’s taken for this. It’s kind of sad. He basically has lost almost everything. I hope he does have a comeback waiting out there some day.‘’


Here is a picture from the court today. I don’t think camera’s were allowed in so this is all I have.

To note, vick’s mom had to leave the courtroom intially because she suffered an emotional break down. The man holding her in the picture is Vick’s infamous brother, Marcus.

I have a feeling this idiot will be around for a long time, like OJ. After he gets out, and even after his NFL career is over, which I hope is now, he will continue to do stupid shit on occaision just to get attention.

23 months seems like too little. I don’t care that the prosecutors were asking for less, it just seems like this is incorrect.

I just calculated his sentence in dog years, 13 and change, I kinda feel a little better.

[quote]CarvedInsane wrote:
23 months seems like too little. I don’t care that the prosecutors were asking for less, it just seems like this is incorrect.

I just calculated his sentence in dog years, 13 and change, I kinda feel a little better.[/quote]

That just made me smile!

Hi Airtruth,

Here is a link to the specific interview I was talking about on outside the lines. Click on the link and then choose the video to the right marked under Roger Cossack.

Apologetic Vick gets 23-month sentence on dogfighting charges

RICHMOND, Va. – Michael Vick was sentenced to prison Monday for running a dogfighting operation and will stay there longer than two co-defendants, up to 23 months, because he lied about his involvement when he was supposed to be coming clean to the judge who would decide his fate.

The disgraced NFL star received a harsher sentence than the others in the federal conspiracy case because of “less than truthful” statements about killing pit bulls.

Vick said he accepted responsibility for his actions, but U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson said he wasn’t so sure.

“I’m not convinced you’ve fully accepted responsibility,” Hudson told Vick, who arrived in court wearing the black-and-white striped prison uniform he was issued when he voluntarily surrendered Nov. 19 to begin serving his sentence early.

Despite the early surrender, a public apology and participation in an animal sensitivity training course, Vick was denied an “acceptance of responsibility” credit that would have reduced his sentence. Federal prosecutors opposed awarding Vick the credit.

Dogs that did not perform up to expectations were killed by electrocution, hanging, drowning and other violent means by the dogfighting ring. Hudson said evidence, including statements by the co-defendants, showed Vick was more directly involved than he admitted. Hudson also mentioned that Vick had been deceptive on a polygraph test. Though that evidence was not admissible in court, the results were discussed.

“He did more than fund it,” prosecutor Michael Gill said, referring to the “Bad Newz Kennels” dogfighting operation. "He was in this thing up to his neck with the other defendants

The judge agreed.

“You were instrumental in promoting, funding and facilitating this cruel and inhumane sporting activity,” he said.

Flanked by two defense attorneys, Vick spoke softly as he acknowledged using “poor judgment” and added, “I’m willing to deal with the consequences and accept responsibility for my actions.”

Vick apologized to the court and his family members, who along with other supporters occupied most of two rows in the packed courtroom. Before the hearing started, Michael Vick’s brother, Marcus Vick, draped his right arm around their mother and comforted her as she wept.

“You need to apologize to the millions of young people who looked up to you,” Hudson said sternly, reminding Vick of the fans he singled out when he pleaded guilty in August.

“Yes, sir,” Vick answered.

Although there is no parole in the federal system, with time off for good behavior Vick could be released in the summer of 2009.

“This was an efficient, professional, and thorough investigation that well exposed a seamy side of our society,” U.S. Attorney Chuck Rosenberg said in a statement. "I trust Mr. Vick learned important lessons and that his admission of guilt will speed his rehabilitation

Falcons owner Arthur Blank called the sentencing another step in Vick’s “legal journey.”

“This is a difficult day for Michael’s family and for a lot of us, including many of our players and fans who have been emotionally invested in Michael over the years,” Blank said. “We sincerely hope that Michael will use this time to continue to focus his efforts on making positive changes in his life, and we wish him well in that regard.”

Blank told ESPN’s Chris Mortensen he has not shut the door on the possibility Vick could play for the Falcons in the future.

“If the question is whether can I see a set of circumstances in which Michael [comes back to the team], the answer is yes,” Blank said. “That being the case, we’re moving forward as if he will not be back. I have learned you never say never but we’re planning as if he will not be here. We are resolved to get this franchise on the rebound and become one of the most successful in the NFL.”

Blank said he spoke with Vick “about six weeks ago,” shortly before Vick entered prison to begin serving time.

“He was still remorseful, he felt badly and he told me he loved me,” Blank told Mortensen. “I wish him well and I hope he has a positive, productive life ahead of him.”

Vick was suspended without pay by the NFL and lost all his lucrative endorsement deals. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell was asked after Monday’s ruling if Vick should play again.

“That’s a determination we’ll make later on,” he told The Associated Press from a legislative hearing in Austin, Texas, involving the NFL Network. “As I said earlier when we suspended him indefinitely, we would evaluate that when the legal process was closed.”

On its Web site Monday, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution estimated that Vick has incurred financial losses of $142 million, including $71 million in Falcons salary, $50 million in endorsement income and nearly $20 million in previously paid bonuses.

Federal sentencing guidelines called for a term of 18 months to two years. While prosecutors asked for a sentence on the high end, defense attorney Lawrence Woodward asked for leniency, noting his client’s previously clean record despite growing up in a rough area in Newport News.

But in addition to initially lying about his role in killing dogs, Vick tested positive for marijuana use in violation of the terms set for his release – then gave conflicting accounts about when he used the drug, Hudson noted.

He also said Vick’s conflicting stories about drug use and his role in killing dogs stemmed from frustration with his interrogators and a desire to please people by telling them what he thinks they want to hear.

“We knew this was a statement case so I figured it’d be a statement verdict,” Falcons tight end Alge Crumpler told ESPN.

Vick’s lead attorney, Billy Martin, said Vick had been diagnosed as clinically depressed.

“Mr. Vick in life had numbed himself to a lot of events around him. That was, in a sense, his way of surviving,” Martin said.

Outside court, Woodward said Vick didn’t want anyone feeling sorry for him.

“He just wants a chance to prove himself when all this is over,” he said. “But the other thing he said to me, which I also think is important for everyone to know, is that he understood that some of the things he was doing in life and off the field were dangerous, and he told me he feels lucky that he’s alive and not hurt and now it’s all about the future.”

That future now includes a stay at a still-undetermined federal prison. He has been held at a jail in Warsaw, Va., since voluntarily beginning his term.

In a plea agreement, Vick admitted bankrolling the dogfighting ring on his 15-acre property in rural Virginia. He admitted providing money for bets on the fights but said he never shared in any winnings.

The gruesome details about the dogfighting enterprise prompted a public backlash against the once-popular Vick and enraged animal-rights groups, which used the case to call attention to the brutality of dogfighting.

John Goodwin of the Humane Society of the United States called Vick’s sentence appropriate.

“People that are involved in this blood sport are on notice. You can throw your life away by being involved in this,” he said.

Along with the prison term, Vick was fined $5,000 and will serve three years’ probation after his release.

Two co-defendants were sentenced Nov. 30. Purnell Peace, of Virginia Beach, got 18 months. Phillips, of Atlanta, got 21 months. Another co-defendant, Tony Taylor, will be sentenced Friday.

Personal opinion:

I found this to be a great article. It covers a lot including an official statement from Arthur Blank.
The article also has an interesting photo of a young Vick supporter.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AujCLBqEbi0TyfZSy3pcwnY5nYcB?slug=ap-falcons-fines&prov=ap&type=lgns

5 Falcons fined for displaying Michael Vick messages

December 18, 2007

NEW YORK (AP) – Roddy White and four other Atlanta Falcons were fined by the NFL for violating uniform regulations with tributes to Michael Vick during last week’s Monday night game.
Vick, Atlanta’s suspended Pro Bowl quarterback, was sentenced to 23 months in prison on federal dogfighting charges the morning of Dec. 10. The Falcons played at home against New Orleans that night.

After scoring a touchdown, White displayed a “Free Mike Vick” T-shirt under his jersey.
He, along with tight end Alge Crumpler and cornerbacks DeAngelo Hall and Chris Houston, were fined $10,000 each. Crumpler, Hall and Houston all wore black eye strips with written tributes to Vick, which the league called “displaying an unauthorized personal message.”

Wide receiver Joe Horn was fined $7,500 for pulling up White’s jersey to show the black T-shirt with handwritten white lettering. The fines were confirmed Tuesday by NFL spokesman Randall Liu.
Hall also had a poster of Vick on the field during pre-game introductions.
The Falcons lost the game 34-14.

***************************Sorry for the insertion of my less than perfect personal opinion here but I had a hard time with this one. When I was a kid it was always emphasized to me to distance myself from bad people. Like the idea of if you lie down with dogs (no pun intended here) you will get fleas.

If not from a personal standpoint (I am guessing these guys like Vick) at least from a professional standpoint, I can�??t figure out why these guys wouldn�??t want to distance themselves as far from Vick as possible.

Personally, I feel Vick is a piece of crap. I don�??t know whether it was Ron Mexico, the middle finger incident, his current legal situation, or just a general vibe I get from the guy. I also don�??t care much for Joe Horn either so my opinion here is really biased. I don�??t know much about the other players but this whole incident just really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Why Vick is being supported by any of these guys is beyond me. He should be shunned, put down, alienated and made to feel like shit for the time being until he has earned his right to be redeemed. Saying he is sorry and finding Jesus is not even close and even comes across as not sincere unless he starts backing it up with a lot of action.

Plus the falcons got their butts whipped so maybe they should have focused more on the players that were actually on the field and not in jail for breaking the law and brutalizing man’s best friend.

[quote]Xylene wrote:
Vic will get a top tier, high-priced lawyer and only one of three things will happen:
(1)Charges dropped
(2)Go to trial Found not guilty
(3)Found guilty get a “slap on the wrist” with a fine.

:)[/quote]

all I gotta say is I hope your wrong, although your probably right, I hope he rots in a cell for life… or gets anus raped by his 500 lb cell mate “Bubba” daily till’ he gets out.(After that I’m sure he wont be the same!:slight_smile: ) If he is guilty.
Dog fighting is fucking sick ass shit! not cool at all :frowning: