This guy has been dead-on about the economy for the last 10 years.
Want to end the current recession/depression? Cut the FUCKING GOVERNMENT!!! Let individuals make their own decisions, not some politician telling you what you can or cannot buy.
How the fuck are you going to get out of this by doing the same thing that got you into this mess in the first place.
Things are going to get bad…real bad.
Here is another great video…
Even if politicians were to believe Schiff they are prevented from acting on this information simply because politics dictates they “do something.”
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Even if politicians were to believe Schiff they are prevented from acting on this information simply because politics dictates they “do something.”[/quote]
Not politics, it’s the people who demand they do something. Unfortunately when they’re told by the people to do something, the elected officials wind up screwing it up.
If people stopped spouting rhetoric about personal responsibility and started acting on it, they wouldn’t be asking the government to do something.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
If people stopped spouting rhetoric about personal responsibility and started acting on it, they wouldn’t be asking the government to do something.[/quote]
Except I am observing the exact opposite of what you are saying. The vast majority of people are against the bailouts but bailouts are the only thing the government knows how to do.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
If people stopped spouting rhetoric about personal responsibility and started acting on it, they wouldn’t be asking the government to do something.
Except I am observing the exact opposite of what you are saying. The vast majority of people are against the bailouts but bailouts are the only thing the government knows how to do.[/quote]
And who elected the officials that are in favor of the bailout? The people.
You know how Obama critics say that people who voted for him don’t know what he stands for? It’s the same deal with the legislature, and that is more dangerous because these are the people who make the laws.
Cutting government isn’t the solution. America consumes and does not produce. It owes a tonne of money. You have been living far beyond your means for a long time. You have to cut your standard of living severely - all those good times you are used to are over. You have to work harder and do real work not pretend work and not bad production like crappy cars. All business that was useless needs to DIE - no bailouts. And you need to abandon your money and the “Federal Reserve” and start again the way the founding fathers wanted things to be.
If you don’t do this - and you won’t - you will suffer in the extreme.
Don’t think the options are suffer with big gov. or live the good times with small gov.
[quote]Magarhe wrote:
Cutting government isn’t the solution. America consumes and does not produce. It owes a tonne of money. You have been living far beyond your means for a long time. You have to cut your standard of living severely - all those good times you are used to are over. You have to work harder and do real work not pretend work and not bad production like crappy cars. All business that was useless needs to DIE - no bailouts. And you need to abandon your money and the “Federal Reserve” and start again the way the founding fathers wanted things to be.
If you don’t do this - and you won’t - you will suffer in the extreme.
Don’t think the options are suffer with big gov. or live the good times with small gov.
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I agree. But the thing that legislature can do is to make America a place where business and industry can thrive again.
It is also high time we pull our troops from everywhere we have them stationed except in the continental United States. Let the world sort out it’s own problems. No more aid to other countries either, until we get our own house in order. No more starting wars in the interest of “Freedom” and “Security”. And speaking of that, let’s end our involvement completely in the middle east. No more money, aid, and military arms for Israel. Let Israel sort out its own problems with Palestine and the Arabs.
Americans do live completely beyond their means. Everybody is not going to be able to go college anymore. Let some of these worthless educational facilities die off when they can no longer operate due to ridiculous costs. Everybody is not going to be able to afford a big house. Everybody is not going to be able to afford all of the little gadgets and tech things. Everybody is not going to be able to buy a car every 2 years.
A very big deal has to be made of personal responsibility, if you spend beyond your means you will pay. And no one is going to help you. The same thing will go with a lot of other things too. No more tax payers paying for abortions, you want to get one go ahead and do it, but I will not be forced to pay from my pocket for your rash decisions.
No more entitlements for illegal immigrants. If a business knowingly hires an illegal, after 2 times their license to practice will be revoked for good. Let’s not punish the people who want to make a better life for themselves. Let’s punish the people that exploit the illegals. Dry up the jobs and entitlements, and no more illegal immigration.
We should also at the very least legalize Marijuana and tax the shit out of it. If government and private companies do not want their employees using it then they can incorporate their own testing procedures. The “War on Drugs” is a pile of shit. The more things you criminalize the more criminals that you have. And speaking of criminals, the entire American legal system needs to be revamped as well. It is broken. The rich get off and the middle and lower classes get screwed.
It is high time Americans take responsibility for themselves and America returns to its rightful place on the world stage. Let’s go back to the values encompassed by our founding fathers.
[quote]Magarhe wrote:
Cutting government isn’t the solution. America consumes and does not produce. It owes a tonne of money. You have been living far beyond your means for a long time. You have to cut your standard of living severely - all those good times you are used to are over. You have to work harder and do real work not pretend work and not bad production like crappy cars. All business that was useless needs to DIE - no bailouts. And you need to abandon your money and the “Federal Reserve” and start again the way the founding fathers wanted things to be.
If you don’t do this - and you won’t - you will suffer in the extreme.
Don’t think the options are suffer with big gov. or live the good times with small gov.
[/quote]
The only people who have to cut their standard of living are those whom have been living above their means – namely, government!!
Of course, many people who aren’t in debt will have to cut their standard of living anyway as goods and services disappear.
In a free society this wouldn’t even be a topic of discussion. The more apt and able would replace the less apt and able.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Charlemagne wrote:
…It is also high time we pull our troops from everywhere we have them stationed except in the continental United States. Let the world sort out it’s own problems. No more aid to other countries either, until we get our own house in order. No more starting wars in the interest of “Freedom” and “Security”…
…It is high time Americans take responsibility for themselves and America returns to its rightful place on the world stage. Let’s go back to the values encompassed by our founding fathers.
Thing is our founding fathers went to war against the Barbary Coast in the 1790s and England in 1812 precisely because of “freedom” and “security”.
I agree with much of your post but it is not as simple as ABC. [/quote]
Ok, except that the thing with the War of 1812 is that the British actually invaded America and marched on Washington. In that case OF COURSE you would declare war. But a point has to be made that we only use military force WHEN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, in others words when it represents an acute and absolutely certified danger to the United States.
And in the case of the Barbary Pirates, they were actually boarding our ships, destroying them and upsetting our commerce.
Like I said, stay out of other countries affairs, in the long and short run it will pay much better dividends for America.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Charlemagne wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Charlemagne wrote:
…It is also high time we pull our troops from everywhere we have them stationed except in the continental United States. Let the world sort out it’s own problems. No more aid to other countries either, until we get our own house in order. No more starting wars in the interest of “Freedom” and “Security”…
…It is high time Americans take responsibility for themselves and America returns to its rightful place on the world stage. Let’s go back to the values encompassed by our founding fathers.
Thing is our founding fathers went to war against the Barbary Coast in the 1790s and England in 1812 precisely because of “freedom” and “security”.
I agree with much of your post but it is not as simple as ABC.
Ok, except that the thing with the War of 1812 is that the British actually invaded America and marched on Washington.
No, the British invasion did not start the war. I have lectured you before about knowing your history before swaggering on to this forum.
And in the case of the Barbary Pirates, they were actually boarding our ships, destroying them and upsetting our commerce.
Exactly. You just made my point.
And it happened in foreign waters. The point is America’s interests and subsequently its need to extend force cannot always be limited to its own shores. Impossible.
Like I said, it’s not always as easy as ABC.
Like I said, stay out of other countries affairs, in the long and short run it will pay much better dividends for America.
When other countries stay out of ours it makes it much easier to live by that axiom.
Like I said, it’s not always as easy as ABC. If you think it is, you should run for office. You might even make it all the way to the top and be the first President ever named Charlemagne.
Disclaimer: this post is in no way to be considered advocacy for the idea that America should be the world’s policeman.
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Um, the reason we went to war in 1812 was similiar to the Barbary Coast excursions as well…the British were upsetting our trade and commerce and forcing our citizens to serve in their navy. That would be a valid reason for war.
Both of your examples were clear and present dangers to the sovereignty of the United States. In my opinion, the war in Iraq did not represent this. And it scares the shit out of me that we are talking about invading Iran. Why? With what money? For what purpose? And more importantly with whose blood?
Who is this benefiting anyway? Could it be that maybe some powerful lobby is pulling our foreign policy strings?
I am trying to make the point that we must NOT declare war unless absolutely necessary. Enough is enough. We are bankrupting ourselves. Let’s get our own house in order before we tell others how to run their own.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Charlemagne wrote:
…It is also high time we pull our troops from everywhere we have them stationed except in the continental United States. Let the world sort out it’s own problems. No more aid to other countries either, until we get our own house in order. No more starting wars in the interest of “Freedom” and “Security”…
…It is high time Americans take responsibility for themselves and America returns to its rightful place on the world stage. Let’s go back to the values encompassed by our founding fathers.
Thing is our founding fathers went to war against the Barbary Coast in the 1790s and England in 1812 precisely because of “freedom” and “security”.
I agree with much of your post but it is not as simple as ABC. [/quote]
Yes but the Barbary coast war was against an actual threat.
I’m undecided on the Afghan war. Stuff like 9/11 is worth fighting a war over. However it’s hard to fight a war against a concept/small group of nutjobs. I kind of get the impression that the US just struck out blindly at whoever happened to look like they might be involved. If what we’re told is true about the Taliban’s links to the terrorist organisation, then that one was a war that America (and the western world) needed to/needs to fight. If it is not, we attacked (incl the UK in this one) a defenceless country several 1000 miles away with no provacation.
The second war in Iraq however was against someone/somewhere who represented no real threat to the US whatsoever. Iraq had no involvement in 9/11 and the invasion has not in any way increased security. This is what the poster means by “freedom” and “security”. They are terms that have been corrupted for properganda purposes.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Charlemagne wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Charlemagne wrote:
…It is also high time we pull our troops from everywhere we have them stationed except in the continental United States. Let the world sort out it’s own problems. No more aid to other countries either, until we get our own house in order. No more starting wars in the interest of “Freedom” and “Security”…
…It is high time Americans take responsibility for themselves and America returns to its rightful place on the world stage. Let’s go back to the values encompassed by our founding fathers.
Thing is our founding fathers went to war against the Barbary Coast in the 1790s and England in 1812 precisely because of “freedom” and “security”.
I agree with much of your post but it is not as simple as ABC.
Ok, except that the thing with the War of 1812 is that the British actually invaded America and marched on Washington.
No, the British invasion did not start the war. I have lectured you before about knowing your history before swaggering on to this forum.
And in the case of the Barbary Pirates, they were actually boarding our ships, destroying them and upsetting our commerce.
Exactly. You just made my point.
And it happened in foreign waters. The point is America’s interests and subsequently its need to extend force cannot always be limited to its own shores. Impossible.
Like I said, it’s not always as easy as ABC.
Like I said, stay out of other countries affairs, in the long and short run it will pay much better dividends for America.
When other countries stay out of ours it makes it much easier to live by that axiom.
Like I said, it’s not always as easy as ABC. If you think it is, you should run for office. You might even make it all the way to the top and be the first President ever named Charlemagne.
Disclaimer: this post is in no way to be considered advocacy for the idea that America should be the world’s policeman.
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Only just read this. It appears we fundementally agree. The question is therefore was the war in Iraq justified based purely upon the actual (as seen by those at the top) perceived level of threat to the US/UK?
I would argue not. What reasons would you give for Iraq to have represented a real threat to the US/UK?
(The arguement they didn’t like us is not really valid since they couldn’t. Similarly it’s abundantly clear that the 45minute claim was an outrageous lie at best and evidence of gross stupidity at worst.)
he is smart. But smart in what sense? He’s very smart in his investments and promoting his business. Everyone in the finance field speaks with an Agenda. Everyone! No Exceptions! Ever!
[quote]Gregus wrote:
he is smart. But smart in what sense? He’s very smart in his investments and promoting his business. Everyone in the finance field speaks with an Agenda. Everyone! No Exceptions! Ever! [/quote]
So if he is so smart, why aren’t his clients rich?
The pot with only one bean in it makes a loud sound.