Vegetarian/Vegan Diet Questions

By no means do I mean this to be “pick out things by Mertdawg day” as I would never want to do that, and also 99% of the time probably there would be nothing to pick out.

But by chance this also, as well as the legumes question, can be one for comment, as buytrate is in fact produced from arabinoxylan (a grain fiber):

http://www.gastrojournal.org/article/S0016-5085(15)30655-7/abstract

Bill how much fat do you typically recommend someone include in their diet? To what degree does it vary based on average person vs an experienced lifter (trying to gain muslce, presumably) or on other factors?

Unless the calorie intake is unusual, 30-40% of calories in most instances. A cyclic ketogenic diet would be an exception: on the low carb days fat could well be over 50%.

For the average person, not a lifter, that’s still true but as there will be less point to a higher protein intake, when protein intake is smaller then carbs or fat must go up, or both. When metabolic problems haven’t been induced already, as for example as mentioned for people in other parts of the world who have high carb percentage, then that could go to non-sugar carbs with no problem. Where the person has a problem already, it might well be better taken in as fat.

(On the people in less developed parts of the world with high carb percent intake, they generally don’t have high caloric intake, often have much more physical activity on average, and may not be experiencing other adverse factors which are now commonly experienced in developed countries, an example being high linoleic acid intake, another example being low microbial diversity in the GI tract. Whether they would do well with a high carb diet plus those factors is unproven, and seems unlikely based on outcomes in developed countries. If they would, carbs can’t be the sole answer if any part of the answer.)

Very interesting, thanks. That’s a higher range than I typically consume. Right now I’m at the tail end of a cut, trying to lose a final 4 lbs and my macros work out to 44% protein, 35% carbs, 21% fat. But I’ll think about adding more fats, especially when I start reverse dieting. There are so many tasty (and healthy) ones to eat, it would be a pleasure to add more :slight_smile:

OP-

I am a vegetarian but not a vegan

Meals I’ve been eating for the last two months or so (I switch up a lot)

Also noticed a poster mentioning brown grains- I only eat white rice, white bread (sourdough), white pasta etc.

Breakfast 1a 1 cup full fat greek yogurt, 1 cup oats, honey/cinnamon, berries, nuts to taste
Breakfast 1b (when more than 48 hours AFTER lifting) 1 cup oats, 2-3 tbsp nut butter, cocoa, honey, cinnamon to taste
Breakfast 1c 3-4 duck or chicken eggs, toast and butter

Mid-AM1 scp whey OR rice OR pea protein

Lunch (PB and J at work-I’m cheap) 1 scoop of the above

Dinner 1a white rice, 2 cans beans, 1 lb frozen broccoli, 1 onion, 2 cups okra, 1 or two frozen bricks of spinach, maybe some mushrooms, cheese, variety of sauces to taste
Dinner 1b burrito with refried beans, onion, rice, peppers, onion, salsa
Dinner 1c 1-2 corn on the cob, spaghetti with sauce, cheese
Dinner 1d-corn on the cob, veggie burgers (some good brands with no soy), iceberg lettuce, tomato, mustard to top
Dinner 1e greek yogurt mash potatoes, vegge sausage on bun with sauerkraut, mustard

[quote]knokkelezoute73 wrote:

[quote]mertdawg wrote:
I am a little hesitant to post this because it is not likely to help anyone, but I believe that most plant protein is anti-nutritious. It ranges from allergenic, to auto-immune provoking to damaging of intestinal flora, to toxic. Grain and bean fiber as well as protein are all net negative nutrients. They may very well cause net catabolism.

The browner the grain the more damaging it is for colonocytes, which means leaky gut syndrome.
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I have Crohn’s diseaase, but I find that brown rice helps a lot. Any idea why that could be?[/quote]

Thanks a lot, BulletproofTiger.

Aaaaand that good old ammonia smell when I try to lower my carbs a bit

Meh

Regarding what we can read earlier in this thread, I’m wondering how high one could go in terms of fat %, if workout is done first thing in the morning (living the sedentary life for the rest of the day, pretty much)

I’d pile on the carbs peri workout as usual, but after that?