One does not need to rent rooms to study crowd distribution and ballistic trajectory. And even if you want to argue to the contrary, he never checked in, which seriously undermines the ‘doing research’ argument.
But staying out of this rabbit hole is fine by me.
Thank you. Something many of our talking heads seem to have lost sight of
Bunch of people died in a church today. But Im sure our orange leader or anyone wont do much. I thought Texas everyone was packin 24/7… One of these days the argument that somebody packing will stop these crazy evil fucks will actually pan out… Untill then man u never know these days not safe anywhere it seems… But as usual not a good time to talk about solutions…
If the “solution” involves dialogue and seeking actual solutions that work then I’m for it. If it involves violating my constitutional rights then stuff it. I’m sick of the left tearing this country apart and then pointing fingers. This crap didn’t happen but very rarely until the 1990s. The left refuse to enforce laws, play the damned race card every chance they get, refuse to allow discipline in schools, and run cities into the ground. Hell, they wine when they lose elections and then resort to violence both real and threatened. That’s what they teach now, right? Words are violence? Spare me the BS.
I don’t know about all that left right stuff i just know its depressing to see this shit every week. What we are doing aint working so the govt should start trying to figure it out.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/05/us/texas-church-shooting-latest/index.html
The gunman entered the small church in the rural town east of San Antonio, firing with an assault weapon at the congregation attending the morning service.
A man who lives next to the church grabbed his own rifle and engaged the gunman, said Freeman Martin, the regional director of the Texas Department of Public Safety.
“The suspect dropped his rifle, which was a Ruger AR assault-type rifle and fled from the church,” Martin said.
The man then chased the gunman, Martin said.
When police spotted the suspect’s vehicle a short time later at the county line, they found the gunman inside – dead of a bullet wound.
“At this time, we don’t know if it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound or if he was shot by the local resident,” Martin said.
No.
Before 1936 a person could order a full auto BAR in the mail no questions asked. Before 1968 anyone could buy anything with very few federal restrictions and background checks. They didn’t have many mass shootings back then, why is That?
Because they had asylums and ways to deal with crazy people. More importantly society wasn’t fucking broken creating all these defective homicidal people.
The guns have been here the whole time, they aren’t the problem. It’s society that’s broken.
This. I don’t think we are in the same profession, but there is no shortage of people in mine that are fully aware of the disproportionate amount of crime committed(time after time) by those who are crazy.
So, we can’t restrict people’s access to guns, because that would constitute an unacceptable infringement on their rights. But it’s not an unacceptable infringement to lock them up and throw away the key?
My sincere condolences and sympathy to the victims and familes of the Texas Shooting. My sincere respect to the armed citizen who stepped up and saved the lives of so many others and the first responders who took over and did whatever they could. Warriors all.
Some of the comments I read from the main stream media:
"A local citizen confronted the gunman, “grabbed his rifle and engaged that suspect,” he said.
“He was confronted by an armed nearby resident who chased after him”
“The gunman dropped the rifle and then fled the scene with the local citizen in pursuit, he said”.
Damn right, brother. Step up and take care of business. You saved so many lives. I hate active shooters like I hate ISIS.
“Sutherland Springs has a population of about 400 residents”.
“I never thought it would happen here,” Matula added. “This is something that happens in a big city. I would never have thought this would have taken place here. It’s just too tight a community. It doesn’t make sense.”
There is no “safe zone” you accept that and move forward, plan, train, and be ready.
None of it makes sense man. Every day I drop my kids off at school, walk in a movie theater, or basically anything these days I think any minute some dip shit armed to teath is gonna blow me & my fam away. Thats just how it is. People’s uninfringed right to have a hobby at all costs is more important than your right to live. But who knows maybe background checks or training wouldn’t stop it. I just don’t see why screening/training bothers anyone so much. If your not doing anything wrong big deal. But its a dead convo aint shit gonna change next one in 30-60 days…and so it goes
If the goal is SAAAAAAAAAAAFETYYYYYYYYYY!!, the first is pretty much useless. Crazy people are going to be crazy, and criminals are going to commit crimes. The second, however, can be done and result in less crime/greater safety. If you’re willing to restrict my access to arms because of what some loony tune does, why would you not be willing to lock the crazy up for being crazy?
This is what is wrong with the left. You’re willing to restrict the rights of millions, but you’ll keep the few people who are a danger to themselves and others on the streets. As it stands now, in many states you can only keep someone confined for three days. Great job.
It’s not a hobby. While I sympathize with police to an extent (poorly paid and obvious targets), their job isn’t to protect us, just fill out paperwork after the fact. Liberals and progressives are always willing to sacrifice the rights of the many in favor of the few. Hell, they realease and celebrate terrorists in parades. No thank you. I’ll remain armed. You all continue to open the borders, fail to enforce laws, threaten the President, celebrate Hollywood until you don’t, and basically act like lunatics with pussies on your heads.
Those of us who work hard, get married, save money, and raise our kids with a combination of love and discipline are pretty much over the left’s opinions.
Think “protect and serve” is kinda their master slogan.
Plenty of people meet this fairly simple criteria AND are members of the left
Cases have gone to the supreme courts at the state level where citizens have sued the police for not protecting them or responding too slowly when they called 911. Every single time the judges ruled that the police are not liable or responsible for your safety. They are not your security guards.
You are responsible for your own safety.
You fall for a slogan without any understanding of that there is no legal obligation to protect? How many examples of very poor response times and murders does one need?
My liberal friends who fit this description live in places like the UES and Silicon Valley. They haven’t a clue what needs to be done to help average or disadvantaged people rise. Liberal policies have thrown out the good (teaching personal responsibility and a need for strong families) with the bad (discrimination and established religion). The continued push for these policies and chants of racism and facism anytime anyone points this out tell me most of you are evil, ignorant or just stupid.
I’m under no illusion that cops are here to protect us. I’ve witnessed too many instances of cops breaking the law. Just seems weird to bring up “police aren’t here to protect” when they keep putting it on the side of their vehicles.
I don’t “fall for a slogan.” See above.
Are all liberals the same as your friends in Silicon Valley?
Gotcha. Have a nice day.
That’s not the question here. The question is, given your reluctance to restrict gun access on the grounds of liberty/personal rights, how could you possibly countenance stripping people of habeus corpus–locking them up forever without them having committed a crime? Unless of course you’re suggesting we make ‘crazy’ a crime, one punishable by life in prison. (That would be a cynical-but-clever way for you to keep your guns and still claim the liberty-related moral high ground.)
If I remember correctly it was the psychiatric community that recommended commitment to asylums as “treatment”. Only after activists had the asylums closed on political grounds did the doctors relent.
I need to find the article, but nearly all of the non Muslim terrorism in the US has been guys on SSRI meds.