Vegas Shooter Kills 50+

I did this with the word “dossier”. How the hell am I supposed to know there is a silent r at the end, unlike every other english word?

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I’m pretty sure I said “K as in knife” one time when spelling a word to someone over the phone.

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Somewhat fitness related:

I had always read and pronounced “hypertrophy” as is it were just those two words pronounced normally: “hyper-trophy”.

I saw a Stan Efferding video where he pronounced it “Hyp-ER-traphy”.

I don’t know which way is right. Hence the lack of hypertrophy in my life lmao.

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LOL. I did too. I’m still confused about nanometer.

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Wait, it’s not?

fml

English is amazing…

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To quote Alexander Dumas, it’s just poorly pronounced French with some German words in the mix… :wink:

That’s why Slavic languages are great - each sound has a specific letter assigned, which in turn means that each letter is context independent - it’s always pronounced the same, regardless of other letters, its position inside the word or in the sentence in general :slight_smile:

Lot’s of funny letters though. And the Poles with their hatred of the letter “v”.

I try to just walk away. Nothing good comes from engaging with idiots. I’m not saying I’m always successful.

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I apologize for interruption, but, since this thread is about the Vegas shooter, I feel it is very important. If you have ever had anyone bleed out on you, then you will know what I am talking about. I posted this yesterday on the Tactical Life thread and if any one here lacks training, please consider taking a basic course.

care

If you have dedicated yourself to the martial way of life, then you know that just learning to shoot , executing that perfect nage waza or building tactical strength is simply just laying the foundation. This is a never ending process of learning, mastering, and finally executing our skills. One area that I feel is neglected in our training is combat casualty care. It is far easier to take a life than save one.

I find it amazing that so many civilians lack any basic training in simple first aid and it would be ironic that members of the Combat Forum should be negligence in their training. If you are, give some serious thought on taking a basic course. In this age of active shooters, terrorists, and natural disasters, the life you save may be your own child. Give it some thought.

Another view:

TCCC or Tactical Combat Casualty Care

TCCC or Tactical Combat Casualty Care was developed in the mid 90’s as a way to effectively deal with combat wounds while still allowing a unit to compete its mission and provide the best possible care for the injured. It was originally developed for special operations but is now the standard of care for all DOD personnel as well as many of our NATO allies. TCCC is broken into three phases of patient care: Care under fire, Tactical field care, and Tactical evacuation. Each of these phases looks to decrease preventable combat death and focusing on addressing the most common causes of combat related death. At this time those causes are:

  1. Uncontrolled hemorrhage
  2. Tension Pneumothorax
  3. Airway obstruction

TCCC’s success is well documented and has proven to be effective in all arenas it has been implemented. The secret to TCCC’s success is its simplicity! It is no longer the responsibility of the medic to be the sole provider of care during combat. The skills and knowledge preached from the TCCC pulpit are those of straightforward, evidence –based, easily taught, and easily practiced medicine. And to prove that point and to drive it’s success, the DOD began teaching the curriculum to everyone being deployed to a combat zone, not just the medical providers.

As a result, preventable combat death has dropped from almost 16% during Viet Nam to 9% overall in OEF/OIF. In some units the rate dropped to below 3%. 75th Ranger Regiment hasn’t had a preventable combat death since 2001. This can be attributed to an aggressive effort to push effective trauma medicine down to the individual soldier.

why is that a big deal to you? We know TCCC and its brother TECC (Tactical Emergency Casualty Care) are effective in dealing with combat and combat-like injuries. But, our chances of being in a combat-like environment are slim…very slim. But, the neat-o thing about TCCC is the principles don’t change based on how you get hurt. So the same way I stop bleeding from a gunshot wound is the same way I stop bleeding from a car accident, or a construction accident. It doesn’t matter if I stop breathing because of cardiac arrest or from being unresponsive after a bomb blast, managing an airway is, essentially, the same.

Today, the average time it takes for a first responder to get to you after you call 911 is 9 minutes. 9 mins on a sunny, not busy, fully staffed government agency day. The time it takes for you to bleed to death from an arterial bleed is about 3 mins. From the time you stop breathing until your brain dies is about 4 mins. So you’re dead and help is still 5 minutes away! Small, decisive, simple things can be done at the time of injury to sustain life until better equipped and higher trained rescuers arrive.

Tourniquet application, airway management, chest seals, hypothermia prevention, etc are easy to learn and easy to do. These are small investment that pays big dividends.

If your mindset is bent towards preparedness or you care to be an asset versus a liability then we know that training is the key. Owning a guitar does not make you Eric Clapton. If you own a trauma kit the first thing that needs to go in it is training! Seek out the training in your area, vet your instructors, and dedicate some time to learning the skills that can make a difference.

In a perfect world we wouldn’t have to deal with these types of problems, in a slightly less perfect world everyone would be trained to deal with medical emergencies. We don’t live in either of those places. It’s up to you. Make a difference. Get training

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So Jesus Campos left the country and isn’t a licensed security officer in Nevada. Not saying he’s the second shooter or involved, just weird the feebs would let him leave thhe country.

They cut open Stephen paddock’s brain looking for dementia and tumors. His brain looked “normal” per the coroner. Given he allegedly shot himself in the head that’d be a mess. He was using valium and alcohol in combination they suspect. Haven’t released the tox screen yet.

They found a laptop without a hard drive and released he was researching small unit tactics and breaching. Still no motive, still no word on whether he had help like the sheriff aluded to.

He had an escape plan according to the sheriff, and explosives in his car. Presumably to kill more people. Why would a man with an escape plan shoot himself in the head before anyone got to him? They changed the timeline: Paddock shot 200 bullets through his door at the security guard before the shooting started.

Paddock used the hotel’s freight elevator which he got as a perk. Wtf does a hotel guest need the freight elevator for?

His brother got arrested for child porn charges.

None of this lines up. I don’t like tinfoil hat speculation, but if anything was ever a false flag op… this would be it.

Jesus Campos left for Mexico days after Las Vegas shooting | Daily Mail Online

http://time.com/4975397/las-vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-escale-plan-explosives-timeline/

Why would any of that appear to be a false flag? And who would have been behind it?

The security guard is back at work so it’s not like he vanished.

His computer had no hard drive? It seems someone like him would remove it.

Everyone has a plan until…

He obviously needed the freight elevator to get his luggage up to the room. It’s not like he had a small duffel bag.

I don’t see what his brother’s taste in porn has to do with anything. Besides, look at their father; the whole family was screwed up.

The news about the brother isn’t relevant to the shooting. Just interesting for context.

The odd things about the security guard 1. The narrative changed a week later about when he got shot. 2. The FBI shouldn’t have let an important witness leave the country.

It’s all just too neat and tidy that a man with money, a younger girlfriend, zero motive has no social media presence and a scrubbed history with no solid evidence left behind. Then he kills himself before the police show up… after researching how SWAT teams breach and having an escape plan.

Either that or investigators know the motive and don’t want to taint the investigation by sharing it.

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Isn’t the whole point of a false flag to frame someone else or some organization? In other words, there should have been a motive given so we have someone to blame.

If I was a mastermind with all the answers I wouldn’t be a middle class dude debating on forums now would I?

There were several reports of a woman warning the crowd “you’re going to die tonight” before the shooting.

Perhaps the purpose was to sew discord in the US like Russia was trying by planning different protests at the same city on FB. Maybe paddock was off his meds. He may not have been the shooter at all. ISIS claimed the attack, but they’ve lied at least twice before.

It’s just way too convenient the way he died.

Its weird no news on this. Im not buying the multiple shooter thing. I think his motive was to go down in history as biggest mass murderer. He supposedly had bombs escape plan and tried to blow up fuel tank at airport.
Unless its like that movie Jack Reecher where someone in crowd was a target…i dont see it being any kinda conspiracy

If I were to put on my tin foil hat for a moment I’d say that this was a concerted effort to to shoot as many “Trump supporters” as possible.

Publicly admission of this from law enforcement would start another civil war.

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I have thought the same.

Unless you’re of the opinion that Lollapalooza is a venue likely to draw Trump supporters, it’s safe to put the tin foil hat back on the rack:

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Not really. We are way to comfy as a nation to really go into a civil war over a few nutjobs. 58 white people died… that’s like 2 weeks in Chicago for black folk. Even if paddock turns out to be politically motivated on either side. Who cares? Anyone killing civilians to make a political point should be stopped and their opinions should carry no weight with us. That Bernie bro shot Republican congressmen on purpose. We haven’t punished Bernie for him, nor should we.

Crazy people are going to crazy.

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Agreed.

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So he was doing research on crowd distribution and ballistic trajectory.

How does that tidbit not confirm that he was well prepared?

edit: Not that I actually want to run down that rabbit hole. It’s easily one of the darkest and ugliest of recent times.