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Have you ever heard of call for fire ???
who exactly are you calling for… oh yea the Air Force!!![/quote]
Never once have I called for fire and had security forces/police show up. But did have a plane land and had to tell the “Ravens” not to shoot at our Afghan Security Forces.
[quote]Have you ever heard of call for fire ???
who exactly are you calling for… oh yea the Air Force!!!
Yea um call for fire can also be field arty or naval guns…[/quote]
The fact of the matter still remains that even though we are all proud to be in the branch of service that we are in one can’t live without the other. Marines are hard core, but you still need us 
[quote]sjoconn wrote:
Have you ever heard of call for fire ???
who exactly are you calling for… oh yea the Air Force!!!
Never once have I called for fire and had security forces/police show up. But did have a plane land and had to tell the “Ravens” not to shoot at our Afghan Security Forces.[/quote]
“ravens” are undertrained for their job and unfortunately some (not all) do not read, study or practice on how to be a better troop. Some ravens do not relfect those of us who do know what we are doing and do know the difference between enemies and allies.
10count, you talk as if the AirForce is the only branch flying combat missions in Iraq. I wish I could see things your way but unfortunatly I cant stick my head that far up my ass. Have you ever heard of a Gagglefuck???
And when your pilots crash who are they calling for??? Sure as hell not the security forces/police. I dont think you are going to get much love on this site the way you are going.
Semper Fi
[quote]Habitual wrote:
10count, you talk as if the AirForce is the only branch flying combat missions in Iraq. I wish I could see things your way but unfortunatly I cant stick my head that far up my ass. Have you ever heard of a Gagglefuck???
And when your pilots crash who are they calling for??? Sure as hell not the security forces/police. I dont think you are going to get much love on this site the way you are going.
Semper Fi
I don’t think the AF is the only one flying missions. My point is that we are almost as important if not just as important as the rest of the branches. I give you Marines the upmost respect, but please keep in mind without us there is no you and without you there is no us. As far as when the pilots go down, PJs, along with some other crazy folks(SOF) go in to help out.
I have to disagree 10count, the air force used to be the Army Air Corps and we did fine in WWII. The Marine Corps is self sustaining, they have their own planes, boats, tanks and helicopters. So realistically the Marine Corps can basically tell the other branches to go fuck themselves and they would be fine. The Air Force on the other hand could not sustain its own ground fighting for more than a few hours.
[quote]snipeout wrote:
I have to disagree 10count, the air force used to be the Army Air Corps and we did fine in WWII. The Marine Corps is self sustaining, they have their own planes, boats, tanks and helicopters. So realistically the Marine Corps can basically tell the other branches to go fuck themselves and they would be fine. The Air Force on the other hand could not sustain its own ground fighting for more than a few hours.[/quote]
Snipeout is right. I have to throw in on this. The Marine Corps has the MAGTF, the Marine Air Ground Task Force. That organization allows us to fight and sustain ourselves without any exterior support. We have our own fighters, tactical bombers, attack helos, transport helos, arty, tanks, APC’s (in the form of amphibious tractors) logistical support, and infantry. Combine a MAGTF with Naval amphibious shipping and surface warfare ships and you have a pretty powerful force with the ability to carry it’s own logistical support with it. The Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) is a reinforced battalion sized force that can fight for 30 days. The MEU is the MAGTF that is always floating around waiting for shit to happen.
The air force provides excellent strategic bombing support, but since they have a bad habit of attacking Marine Corps vehicles and killing Marines with their tactical aircraft, we don’t really like to call the Air Force for close air support. The A-10 is one of the Marine Corps worst enemies.
Semper Fidelis
The Marine Corps does not have it’s own medics or chaplains, but good luck in your decision.
[quote]ghutson wrote:
The Marine Corps does not have it’s own medics or chaplains, but good luck in your decision.[/quote]
Heh, yeah I guess they’d be lacking the mighty hammer of god should they go to war by themselves.
Do any of you guys know about any other good combat jobs. I scored high enough on the ASVAB to take my pick but it seems that infantry is the way to go for combat jobs.
Your training in the infantry will be excellent and if you want go for the Security Forces option or go Recon or Sniper you will be good to go. All up to you bro. I dont know if it is still an option but EOD is a great job and has weight in the civillian world. Maybe some others have more insight on this MOS.
I know that you specified USMC, but if you interested in being a medic, and you live in Kentucky, I would SERIOUSLY look into trying out for the 20th Special Forces Group (KYNG) as an 18D (Special Forces Medic). The biggest reason, is that it is the one of the two fastest ways to become eligible for the Physician Assistant board certification (the other way is to go to the Combined Services PA school in San Antonio). I specify NG because you can enter SF ‘off the street’, although each group does have stringent physical/intellectual/character requirements. I suggest doing a search on it, but a quick overview:
After graduation from the 18D course, I believe that you are a semester from being a full fledged PA.
You are ready to become a certified ass kicker (sorry, but you have to go overseas and actually kick ass for that certification).
You will serve with the best and brightest and most dedicated soldiers American has (my opinion). You are not expected to be a grunt (after some time in the infantry, I cannot overstress how important this point is to a ‘thinking’ man).
When stateside, you get to go to any cool school (regardless of service) that you can make the physical qualifications for.
You are still part of your community.
When not deployed, you can go to school on the state’s dime (as long as you remain in the service, but you have to accept that deployments WILL get in the way of school).
If I didn’t have two midterms tomorrow, I could list a whole litany of other reasons, but I think this should be plenty to add a little confusion to your decision.
Good luck.
A follow up:
First, lose the entitlement issue, plenty of men in each service had plenty of other options for their life; you will not be the most well-to-do person no matter where you go (and if you take a combat arms job, you will probably find that you are not nearly the smartest person there, not by a long shot <I scored a 15 something on my SAT and was amazed how mcuh smarter some of the men I worked with/for were>). Second, don’t take your opinions of what it means to be this or that from a fucking movie. Think you would rather have pride than your legs? How about you take a trip to the local VA treatment hospital (or visit the hospital at Ft Campbell), and talk to those who actually have to ability to look back and consider if the pride received was worth their legs? Finally, a big part of pride of service is pride in being professional, courteous and thorough, in all that you do. If you want to be successful as a service member, you must learn to present yourself as such. A good way to start this is to, instead of ‘apologizing’ for poor spelling and grammar, figure out how/take the time to use proper spelling and grammar. If how you come across to others, even those you don’t meet face-to-face, isn’t important enough to draw your whole attention, then you are certainly not ready to a marine, and probably not ready for most of the other services (I don’t know about the Air Force, they would probably assign you an orderly once you make E-4…just kidding 10count). If you think I am wrong, ignore this post. If you find yourself offended or defensive, then there is probably some bit of truth in this post.
[quote]Pete The Newbie wrote:
just a small question is it a really long process as it is over here in britain to join the military.
p.s cant believe your military don’t have a standard basic training. ours is 12 weeks for the army/ navy/ airforce (what a load of crap that is might as well not have one) and its 30 weeks for a marine, before going to your foundation school.
army infantry basic is 24 weeks. [/quote]
sorry to ask again but i was really interested!
[quote]slimjim wrote:
Heh, yeah I guess they’d be lacking the mighty hammer of god should they go to war by themselves.[/quote]
Good thing the Marines have the Navy for their chaplains, corpsman, and to give them a ride where they need to go huh?
[quote]Pete The Newbie wrote:
Pete The Newbie wrote:
just a small question is it a really long process as it is over here in britain to join the military.
p.s cant believe your military don’t have a standard basic training. ours is 12 weeks for the army/ navy/ airforce (what a load of crap that is might as well not have one) and its 30 weeks for a marine, before going to your foundation school.
army infantry basic is 24 weeks.
sorry to ask again but i was really interested!
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Hi Pete,
It’s not “that” long of a process here, we have to go through a physical, some written tests, etc. As you can see from the writeups here, the branches are quite different in their approach to basic training.
I know the Corps, because I was in it for 4 years. Yes, I was a “girl” in the Corps! Our Congress wouldn’t let the USMC lengthen it’s boot camp, so the Corps added a School of Infantry (sort of like boot camp, part II).
The services here are specialized, and each recruit from each branch of service goes to get specialized training for their particular job field - - after they’ve completed basic training. It’s interesting.
Semper Fidelis, my Marines! Oooh Rah!
Renee
Yut yut. Semper Fi Marines! This thread bubbled up out of the archive like a fart in a hottub.
Damned Marine Corps is like an abusive husband. It treats you like shit but you love it with ever fiber of your being. Hell, I’m out now and I’m still pissed about the new tattoo regs. I’m keeping my lower arms clean in the slight chance I might go back, just in the reserves!
mike
[quote]gibran wrote:
Hey, Im not in the military but im also looking to join up. What I did is went to all the recruiters for each branch(except navy, i dont want that) and am currently focusing on air force.
Personally what I saw between the branches was that the Marines were feeding me alot of bullshit. This is just the recruiter though, not the branch. Make sure you do alot of research before joining. A great source to look for jobs and to learn about the military is (http://about.com). For example, It was nice finding out that technically when you enlist for 4 years, they can call you back in for another 4 years after that.
But yeah, just in my opinion I wouldnt pick the marines. You arent guaranteed a job there, and they can transfer you around. If you want a sure job and want to around some action, you can just as well go into the army. In your case, that is what i would do.
You can always do air force too, they also have medics which is pretty cool. You would be flown in and out of hotspots, no doubt. That would also be some pretty good action.
But yeah…just do more research. You can find everything on the website I gave you. Good luck man.[/quote]
Joining the Marines isn’t about getting a specific job, its about the challenge of earning the title and serving the Corps with pride. I’m a hopeful for OCS in October, if I don’t get in then I’m enlisting. Personally I can’t imagine wanting to join another branch but to each his own.
[quote]njworkoutguy wrote:
gibran wrote:
Hey, Im not in the military but im also looking to join up. What I did is went to all the recruiters for each branch(except navy, i dont want that) and am currently focusing on air force.
Personally what I saw between the branches was that the Marines were feeding me alot of bullshit. This is just the recruiter though, not the branch. Make sure you do alot of research before joining. A great source to look for jobs and to learn about the military is (http://about.com). For example, It was nice finding out that technically when you enlist for 4 years, they can call you back in for another 4 years after that.
But yeah, just in my opinion I wouldnt pick the marines. You arent guaranteed a job there, and they can transfer you around. If you want a sure job and want to around some action, you can just as well go into the army. In your case, that is what i would do.
You can always do air force too, they also have medics which is pretty cool. You would be flown in and out of hotspots, no doubt. That would also be some pretty good action.
But yeah…just do more research. You can find everything on the website I gave you. Good luck man.
Joining the Marines isn’t about getting a specific job, its about the challenge of earning the title and serving the Corps with pride. I’m a hopeful for OCS in October, if I don’t get in then I’m enlisting. Personally I can’t imagine wanting to join another branch but to each his own.[/quote]
That isn’t entirely true. I’d rather be a grunt in the army than a pogue in the corps.
mike