Hey Members: I am a 44 year old guy working out regularly for just over a year and a half with an IART certified personal trainer. Looking to add muscle and lose the last 10-15 lbs of fat that I have hanging off of me. (to date I have lost almost 70 lbs just watching my diet and working out)
I am looking to speed up the process a bit and am planning to use the two adjunct therapies I mentioned above…the Trenbolone is supplied as an injectable at 200mg/ml and the Nandrolone is supplied as an injectable at 300mg./ml. Does anyone know of an effective dosing schedule to help me accomplish my goals?
Thanks
Tennisdude
Thanks for the “heads-up”. Looking for more comprehensive information on how I can most effectively use the two supplements (combined or separately) to accomplish my goals mate!
[quote]tennisdude123 wrote:
Thanks for the “heads-up”. Looking for more comprehensive information on how I can most effectively use the two supplements (combined or separately) to accomplish my goals mate![/quote]
[quote]2thepain wrote:
tennisdude123 wrote:
Thanks for the “heads-up”. Looking for more comprehensive information on how I can most effectively use the two supplements (combined or separately) to accomplish my goals mate!
I would advise only using one Nor-19 per cycle.[/quote]
Hmmm…OK…I’m a newbie at all this stuff…not sure what you mean by “using one Nor-19 per cycle”
Jason
My first piece of comprehensive information for you is a vigorous recommendation to read the three stickies atop this forum. Its very obvious you are currently undereducated and reading those three stickies will absolutely give you a crash course. Once you have read them you will understand why you must pick between tren and deca and likely will end up pairing one of them with test.
Not trying to avoid your question but honestly those stickies are stickies for a reason; they’re damn good and informative. Read them and you will discover most of your own answers. Then come back in here and we can fine tune your program.
[quote]sapasion wrote:
My first piece of comprehensive information for you is a vigorous recommendation to read the three stickies atop this forum. Its very obvious you are currently undereducated and reading those three stickies will absolutely give you a crash course. Once you have read them you will understand why you must pick between tren and deca and likely will end up pairing one of them with test.
Not trying to avoid your question but honestly those stickies are stickies for a reason; they’re damn good and informative. Read them and you will discover most of your own answers. Then come back in here and we can fine tune your program.[/quote]
Very new to this site…not sure where to find the stickies
[quote]tennisdude123 wrote:
2thepain wrote:
tennisdude123 wrote:
Thanks for the “heads-up”. Looking for more comprehensive information on how I can most effectively use the two supplements (combined or separately) to accomplish my goals mate!
I would advise only using one Nor-19 per cycle.
Hmmm…OK…I’m a newbie at all this stuff…not sure what you mean by “using one Nor-19 per cycle”
Jason[/quote]
tren is a very power roid you should not use it. Always use test as a base or you will get ED
[quote]golds4ever wrote:
tennisdude123 wrote:
2thepain wrote:
tennisdude123 wrote:
Thanks for the “heads-up”. Looking for more comprehensive information on how I can most effectively use the two supplements (combined or separately) to accomplish my goals mate!
I would advise only using one Nor-19 per cycle.
Hmmm…OK…I’m a newbie at all this stuff…not sure what you mean by “using one Nor-19 per cycle”
Jason
tren is a very power roid you should not use it. Always use test as a base or you will get ED
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What? Don’t use tren? Whatever. I wouldn’t use deca and tren together. Both AAS can cause prolactin gyno. The two together only doubles the risk (of coarse dose is a factor)
One of the reasons i hardly ever post in Bodybuilding is due to the infiltration of the many skinny, 2 years trained, can’t pose, zero muscle, weak “bodybuilders” (makes a mockery of the word) who are giving advice or comments like they have some sort of experience that anyone could gain from. At all.
I have reserched the shit out of it/ only 2 cycles and I dont want be be harsh but you dont need tren to loose the last couple of pounds it is 5x as androgenic as test. My 18 year old friend did tnt his first cycle.
53 140 he EXPLODED to 170 ripped with killer strech marks to show/ quit his job from rage and didnt show up to the gym for 2 months after becasue he lost so much and crashed so hard,
I just know that you dont start off with tren.
OP… i would suggest you do not use either for your first cycle. As much as i do not agree with “Flex” above me here giving any “advice” he is right - tren should be used once you know how “sensitive” you are to androgens. Especially psychologically.
Some (myself included) cannot deal with the aggression they bring and one as androgenic as tren can cause men to end up doing life for something they should never have done.
Mix it with a few valium and a couple beers and a line of coke and you have a monster (lost many a friend/woman/job/rep in similar scenarios) unleashed!
Deca on the other hand is much less androgenic, and a good steroid, but it will shut you down. fast and hard. Either of these steroids used at your age will mean you will need to go onto TRT for life. JMO though, i am no doctor.!
A little test would be nice… maybe just 400mg-600mg a week split over 2 doses. Then later when you have a feel for anabolic/androgenic steroids you may want to add a little tren OR deca to a test cycle… and go from there.
[quote]golds4ever wrote:
He said he was a newb… you dont think that tren is a little over the top for his level? I wont touch the stuff
2cc test/2cceq or deca or var.
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OK I miss understood you. Yes for tren I’d hold out for a few cycles.