Sorry for the cheap shot. The obvious misogyny in your post was out-weighed by an overabundance of paradox that would be too time consuming to address, so I took the easy path.
My time is valuable.
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uh huh because celebrating like a clown while being the defending champions and overwhelming favorites is classy and respectful. go USA!
but hey what did I expect? I’m sure most of you beat your chests out lifting the next bro on the bench at your commercial gyms.
Really not sure why y’all take the bait … obvious troll job is obvious
At least Zep is sincere, this guy just likes rustling jimmies.
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Back on topic.
I watched the replay of the whole match late last night. At some point late in the match (after the 80th minute) a USA cross bounded off a defender and was spinning into the corner, headed for the touchline. While Thai players watched and waited for it to go out of play, Granny Rapinoe chased it down, turned and had 15m of open grass to manoeuver. That effort alone earns the right to celebrate however one feels fit.
So, let’s do a hypothetical. Indulge me if you will.
You go up against someone in a deadlifting contest. You can clearly see that opponent hasn’t been training as much as you, isn’t as big as you, hell it might even be their first or second time at a meet ever and you know you will crush them.
You proceed to obliterate them in the competition with 5 lifts to go. Do you still celebrate every lift like the biggest achievement of all time? Do you throw the weight down at that persons feet while beating on your chest?
Answer that honestly.
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Point proven, thanks dude!
Yup. Thank god for the ignore function.
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That’s not how powerlifting meets go. You don’t lift against one person in a class, you lift against the whole class.
Then, there is the fact that if someone enters a division as a qualified contestant, the burden is on them to perform competitively, not their class to bring down their level to spare the underdogs feels.
The US women showed up to win, and they did.
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This is a poorly crafted “hypothetical”, but I’ll take the bait.
I would celebrate my own achievement in my own way. Especially if it were on a world stage, I would be delirious with joy.
It would be my competitors issue how he trained for the event, why he didn’t get as big and strong as the competition, etc.
I don’t trash talk (as a player or a fan) and I didn’t see any of that kind of thing from USWNT last night, so that assertion is moot.
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Plus, to make this example fit, we’re talking about the World Deadlift Championships, not some back-alley meet in Bordentown, NJ.
The funniest part for me is that I had no idea women’s soccer was even on right now. Go USA!!
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Typical arrogant American!
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You got the point of what I was saying, you don’t need to point out to me how meets go or whatever. It’s fine. As long as you pulled the concept from what I was saying…
Being more competitive is fine, are we even talking about that? We’re talking about good sportsmanship, showboating. I find it odd that all of a sudden, because we are speaking about the womens team, this is somehow not how sportsmanship works???
Weird, very weird. I’ve played sports since the age of 5, sportsmanship was one of the first things we were taught. Don’t showboat, don’t rub your opponents nose in the dirt.
I guess this doesn’t apply to females.
Having the tittle of “World Cup” is meaningless. It’s marketing. It’s a tournament like every other tournament. In this case for women a tournament barely 30 years old, with almost no competition outside of the same 5 or 6 countries.
Then I have no idea what you are addressing, because I didn’t see that last night.
I think you have trouble distinguishing between showboating and expressing jubilation.
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By that logic, using the word “World” for the “World’s Strongest Man” competition is similarly just “marketing” - WSM is not that much older than WWC, and has (significantly) less worldwide fan interest and fewer elite-level competitors than the Women’s World Cup.
I play in a wreck league. If the score goes to 5,6, 7 nothing it gets boring. Everyone’s enthusiasm drops. No one celebrates. In fact people get pissed the other team came so ill prepared and if this is a consistent thing we complain to the person in charge that teams aren’t competitive.
Yeah, my example is a wreck league game but if you look at men’s professional soccer when teams start to get blown out at the club level, national level, people also stop celebrating “jubilation”
It’s a natural thing to chill the fuck out when the game is already out of reach for the opponent. Again, maybe this is different for females , maybe they don’t know how to control themselves lol.
Watching some of you do cartwheels to defend this shit is comical though.
Actually, yes, yes it is the same thing.
Just like when NFL players used to say 'we are world champions" it was kind of lame considering they were really the only ones playing the sport lol. Was it accurate? I mean, yeah I guess, but it was still cringy.
Define showboating.
I mean, in the NFL you have guys fucking break dancing and doing line dancing in the end zone. Professional boxers basically throwing freakin raves before they even enter the ring.
In other sports you’d get your ears boxed by your coach for not bowing properly.
Tell us what you think is the appropriate level of scoring and celebration for a sporting event you aren’t even the right sex to participate in.
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“My analogy was shitty, but you don’t need to point that out to me”
The objective of the game is to score goals, which they did. Re: sportsmanship - they kept scoring goals and, yes, celebrating, but I’d be pretty fucking jacked to score a goal at the biggest event my sport has to offer on the worldwide stage, regardless of the score.
As noted, none of the things the US women did would be “rub their opponents nose in the dirt” - all of the celebrations, while animated, were carried out with one another. At no point did a U.S. player run over and celebrate in a Thai player’s face. Hell, after the match they were literally comforting the Thai players.
Me too, and I saw nothing wrong with the US women’s actions from the clips I’ve seen. It has nothing to do with whether the players are females or males.
@SkyzykS brought up a good point here:
You really think the US women’s celebrations last night were any more egregious than any given Sunday in the NFL?
Ah, yes, we’ve reached the part of the thread where a men’s rec league (note: it’s not “wreck” league, it’s “rec” league, which is short for recreational) is compared to the WWC. The more you know!
Perhaps you can clarify for me then when the term “World” may be used to describe people competing for a title in an international competition that includes teams/people from all over the…world. What exactly qualifies as a “world” champion to you? What events are allowed to use this term and have it be something other than marketing?
I think I’ve made that pretty clear.
Sliding into your teammates when it’s like 5-0 is ridiculous. Jumping into each others arms at 8-0 or there about is pretty exaggerated yeah? You don’t think that’s in poor taste? Really? Are you honestly giving them a pass because they’re females? I really think most of you are doing this knowingly or not.
And what about the coach purposely changing the formation to score more goals when the game is already out of reach? And then her stupid comment afterwards making it a gender issue?