So we agree Trump hasn’t been exonerated for obstruction and can face charges once out of office?
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This doesn’t in any way contradict my statement above it.
It isn’t. But publicly claiming that he has won and everything was rigged in a democratic election, plus calling the press “fake news”, is if you’re the President, not a civilian.
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Exactly this. Now if he was shown innocent (much harder than not guilty) of collusion (and his associates would have to be shown innocent which they are not), then ethically, I would not see an issue with someone falsly charged obstructing an investigation (I think ethically the case should be dropped). Not guilty or exoneration doesn’t show innocence though.
As far as I understand it would be possible yes. Legally, I don’t think anyone knows for certain. I only claimed that I don’t think it will happen because I don’t think it’s something the Dems or the FBI want to re-live.
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There is a legal avenue. One doesn’t concede when one has options. Now, likely the legal avenues will run out and then he can concede when the vote is certified. You are dealing with razor thin margins and while not likely to concede you explore all of them if you are in the race. Now, the likeliness of success is thin, but you do what you can. And if there is funny business in the votes, those people need to be rooted out and prosecuted regardless. You have to secure the election.
You guys just happen to pick the subject matter that is the most defendable. Find something he actually did wrong and I will say he did wrong.
And the DNC as a whole never conceded the 2016 election, so why should he concede when not all is lost? When the election is certified, then he can concede.
The DNC is the one who laid the groundwork for eternal questioning of elections. And there is enough bad behavior to question in each of these situations, not the least of which was the lack of oversight and the refusal to allow election monitors in.
I never said fraud, you did. To overturn the election, they will have to find fraud, but if you don’t look, you won’t find it.
Besides, I predicted this. There is enough cause to investigate and it’s going to drag this out. It’s the DNC’s own fault for behaving questionably. And there are enough places with apparent malfeasance to possibly overturn the projected results. And that’s the key, is these are projections. The media cannot pick the winner.
Now, the chances that the election is overturned is very slim, but it’s not zero. And regardless, we don’t want any sort of corruption in the election process.
Catching the “software glitch” actually changed a seat from blue to red in Michigan. The republican rep. already conceded the race and it turns out he won. Even if it does not affect the presidential race, it can affect down ballot races massively. So, for instance, they find more “software glitches” in Michigan in the 83 other counties that used that software, then it could mean congressional districts flip and that is a big deal regardless of the WH.
Face charges for what?
No it isn’t. And plenty of loosing candidates have done it, not to mention sitting congressmen. I grant it is a little rare for the loosing candidate to be the president.
Are they super real? Like really, really, really real? Like super-duper real? It’s a small window of ill gotten information. There is no evidence of illegalities. You don’t like his taxes, change the system. But you don’t know that because your a big dumb, dumb.
100%. The fact that Mueller couldn’t gather enough facts to establish “willfulness” under the (very specific) statute isn’t exoneration in the sense of proof of innocence - it means he didn’t have enough info to prove the case. The difference is if more information becomes available, the case could be prosecuted.
Actually, yeah, we do.
Proof you’re a dumb, dumb. The legal system does not exonerate. It either convicts you of a crime or cannot convict you of a crime. The Durham report is the exonerating document, though not complete, but clearly showing russia was a Clinton fantasy used as an election tactic showing that the Steele dossier was a complete fabrication. That exonerates Trump.
Obstruction of justice. Try and keep up.
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It is and just because others have done it doesn’t make it right. It’s just that the media didn’t go batshit crazy like they did with Trump, and I’ve been constantly whining about the media.
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Prove there is a case, dumb, dumb.
Ok. It will be interesting to see if they do charge him.
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Don’t mistake my posts for approval. It’s atrocious behavior. It just isn’t undermining democracy.
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I’d be interested too, I think it’s likely if this were any other country even in the West.
I was thinking of non-Trump elections. But I stand corrected.
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You’re still a dumb dumb doody head!!!
Cause apparently that’s what we’re doing now.
PS I don’t think that just can’t believe that’s where we’re at in here apparently.
Edit: Oh man I feel like an idiot I thought I was quoting Pat who I get so tired of correcting. Didn’t mean the harsh words towards you. Even if we disagree double D’s are fun.