So if after the recounts of legal ballots, not including illegitimate ballots, ballots from dead people, etc. etc., and Trump does indeed win, Will you apologize to @pat? Cause, you know, decency and all?
Is there evidence that this has been widespread? Because although in previous elections people who have voted absentee (and then died) happens but typically not in any wide amount of number to matter.
I guess I’m wondering if something is there or if this is just the latest right wing accusation. Because 100,000 in Michigan and impossible results in Wisconsin have already been proven bunk.
Yeah it’s common. Republicans have been saying Democrats win because of millions of votes from dead people or illegals for years now.
Much like their healthcare plans they insist they are real despite never being able to show evidence.
The numerous studies that have been done have generally found it is more likely to be struck by lighting than it is that someone votes by impersonating someone else.
It’s also something Republicans insist they have never done despite evidence to the contrary.
Well I know you won’t take it as proof, but Giuliani said that Joe Frazier and Will Smith’s dad both managed to cast votes in Philly. I’m not sure he would use specific names of he didn’t have proof.
And even if he’s full of shit in those two, I have no doubt this happens. Rod Blagojevich just said it’s a common Democratic tactic in big cities. I know, Trump commuted his sentence, so you think he’s beholden to him now. That doesn’t make it false.
Vernon Jones even said as much in Georgia and he’s a Democrat.
Democrats know this happens, they just don’t care now cause, you know, orange man bad.
No they haven’t. A msm article doesn’t qualify as proof of being debunked. Just like you won’t take a Breitbart article as proof of anything.
Philly in particular has a long history of this kind of voter fraud. Why would it be any different now?
If they were on the up and up, why are there over 50 Republican poll watchers claiming they weren’t allowed anywhere near the counting?
Only a valid recount will determine if there was any actual fraud. If not, I for one will not cry and scream at the sky the way liberals did when Trump won. But it has to be fair and legitimate.
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Serious question do you think Rudy is a credible figure? Maybe he’s right I have no idea. It’s a pretty weird example to lead with though. I mean it’s essentially like saying Trump said he won and he was specific in saying he did.
Come on. You’re still sticking to the 138,000 votes thing? Really? Still sticking to the Wisconsin totals? For real?
0% chance exists that a Presidential election has ever existed in modern history with zero issues. Republicans will be looking at those like hawks since they lost. Democrats probably did in 2016 and 2004.
Are you going to be able to find numbers of mistakes? Sure. Democrats probably had plenty of ballots missed as well. It’s just as possible they were hurt by anything than helped.
But the evidence provided so far that widespread fraud exists that shows Donald Trump was cheated in a manner that kept him from winning just isn’t there. I realize the right wing sites are posting everything under the sun to say it isn’t so. They will keep at it. I believe they are grasping at tiny straws that won’t amount to much but could be wrong.
Demanding a national recount with the evidence that Rudy said stuff is…well I guess something you can do.
A slight derail, but since we can get close to looking at Trump’s tenure in the past, have any of his policies been behind what I seem to think is a drawdown of Omar Mateen/Stephen Paddock type slaughters that were plaguing the consciences of Americans?
It’s Trump’s fault. After the 2016 elections he stated repeatedly that he has proof of a massive voter fraud committed by the Dems. He had four years and the full weight of the government to investigate and apprehend the culprits (probably Hillary and Hunter) and chose not do so.
Yes, they provided those “Hunter’s e-mails”. Remember them?