Wow. Not response I was expecting.
Ok. Fair enough. Let me see if I can find the videos again.
I must have missed earlier posts then I apologize. I’ve been talking about Trump saying stop counting (which actually was about Michigan and not PA). Which is odd because stop counting wasn’t being said in Arizona.
I know I got told not to think I knew what the President was thinking but I feel pretty safe to think I know why. At the risk of being told I can’t know why someone does something even though they do the same thing repeatedly.
His team has a right to legally challenge things and they will. It won’t be the first time it’s happened and won’t be the last. He may win some of them may not. I don’t care about recounts, legal challenges, anything if they have standing.
Not sure if your talking about mail in ballots, but @pat provided a bunch of links in this thread related to this, and all from MSM news sources.
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Not necessary. I’m jumping in and out of this thread and miss a lot of posts, so I might not be keeping up.
I read the article you linked explaining what happened in Wisconsin, and I still have my doubts. I mean, of course they’re gonna say it was just an error. I still find it strange though.
As for Michigan, I honestly haven’t been paying attention, so I can’t speak to it.
Wasn’t almost each one of those old incidents?
So the claim is that widespread fraud happened because issues with mail ballots have happened before? But that wasn’t the claim when millions of Americans voted by mail in 2016 when Trump won?
And apparently we know for a fact that anything that happened hurt Trump?
I’m still waiting to see what exactly people think happened.
I mean right now most people would agree we have a polarized nation (which would make a close election likely). We also just came off a very close election in 2016 one of the few where the person with the most votes lost. And Republicans and Democrats had some surprised and some not surprised in other races but few holy shit things.
If I’m kicking myself over anything it’s of being too bullish on the likelihood of a Biden landslide which although my map didn’t reflect it I gave too much lip service to. Trumps ground game during Covid and Biden’s lack of one may have had a big effect. But a Biden close win should have been a scenario for anyone except the true kool aid drinkers. Same with a Trump one.
I feel like if states had all counted mail in ballots first it might not have seemed so much.
I’m by no means saying voter fraud in no way possible could have taken place. We’re talking about millions of votes and we have issues in every Presidential race. But I just don’t know what evidence we have yet. Pretty much every “did you see that shit yet” video, photo, etc has been proven doctored.
We should probably assume this election doesn’t have widespread voter fraud since no one in here has been able to show it’s happened in modern history.
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It’s a diabolical plan really. Perpetrating a massive voter fraud scheme - stuffing ballot boxes with forged Biden and downballot GOP votes so that Trump loses yet the GOP keeps the Senate and makes large gains in the House.
Brilliant.
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Most of Trump’s claims of Democrat manipulation don’t even survive Occam’s razor. They have no chance in court in their current form.
A great deal more substance is needed.
It’s rather difficult to put a slant on numbers of ballots in various stages of processing, where they’re from and how they have historically trended.
I recognise, though, that slant is often in the eye of the beholder. After all, closing one’s eyes at midday will put one in darkness.
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Reminded me of this (stolen)
“We have the power to rig the election!”
“Cool like really close!”
“Awesome want to do the Senate?”
Nah.
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Can you explain to me what Occam’s razor is? And how it applies to Trumps claims of Democrat manipulation?
Obviously I am not talking numbers here. If you don’t think 538 is more slanted than the eyes of a Mongol invading Persia in the 13th century then you’re a jabronie. A naive cuck jabronie.
Nevermind you’re not a cuck jabronie.
You’re a pseudo intellectual jabronie.
Not quite the style you wanted, (from your youth?) But the internet wins again. There’s many variations out there
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It still has to be postmarked by the 3rd as far as I know.
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And some affected Democrats.
Post them.
This is the allegedly hot Kellyane (yes, I don’t find her attractive) preparing the stage for Trump’s conference earlier.
This isn’t some “Trump gonna Trump” off the cuff improvisation, this is coordinated messaging from the GOP, preparing a “stab in the back” myth for the next election cycle.
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Surely you mean Kayleigh?
Extraordinary claims still require extraordinary evidence. Unless the goal isn’t justice, but enraging a specific demographic (or all demographics, each for a different reason).
You MONSTER!
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A very good point, and might actually be true. This can be used in 2023.
After all, there is no proper evidence of any substantial fraud, and just ranting about is not useful for the election results.
You can go on youtube and look for it yourself mate.
But surely not for Trump but another candidate?
Brilliant. I’m reqouting you so it can be seen again. Say it louder for the ones in the back.
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I’m still waiting to hear why all these levers of electoral manipulation are within Democrats’ reach, but not within the Republicans’.