Oh because CNN didn’t tell you.
I should add. I am not claiming that fraud has happened. I’ve just read some things that seem suspicious. Could be total bullshit. But I am curious none the less.
Oh so I see you are open to possibility of GOP interference but not the converse.
Why do you think he said it? If the President of the United States knew months ago the election was going to be rife with fraud why didn’t he do something? He said it for the exact reason we all know he said it. Because his ego can’t take rejection.
That seems like shifting. Is the Democratic Party trying to get people in the middle of the election to stop counting votes?
Do we have any credible evidence of widespread fraudulent voting in any presidential election? Maybe we do and I’m not aware. I am aware of the GOP’s fraudulent voting in North Carolina but they don’t talk about that instance much do they?
Correct that isn’t right. It’s not a landslide blowout. Much like 2016 a handful of battleground states with close margins are going to decide the election. Trump won those last time. Right now it appears he did not win those this time. It’s not over but that’s what it is looking like.
Maybe it would have been a blowout without the rampant voter fraud done by the Republicans? Oh wait I don’t have evidence of that so I don’t think it.
Although the anti-Orange movement will most likely win out, it seems mostly a SAID (nod to this site’s true purpose) type of reaction, and the blue wave seems to be a myth of the MSM. Even CA shows signs of rational behavior…well, except for the Bay Area of course LOL:
Please don’t tell me what I think.
Does it? Lets not pretend like one group is morally superior to the other.
Its the same group that continued to propagate a false borderline libelous narrative about Trump for over four years.
Credible. I don’t know. I know there are dirty games being played by both sides.
You can seek out that information if your inclined enough and be the judge yourself. Or not. I don’t care.
Fixed that for you.
I don’t believe he was saying that. It’s far more likely that people who voted by mail weren’t counted than those who voted in person. Since far more Biden voters used the mail it’s possible that missing ballots or screwed up ballots hurt him more than Trump. Maybe that’s why it’s close?
Who knows but it’s just as likely that Biden was hurt by this than it is that Trump was.
No one unless I missed a post said they think fraud is ok or that both sides couldn’t do it. It’s just usually trotted out without much evidence and the studies show basically not much. It’s probably impossible to have an election where this many people vote with no problems.
But that doesn’t mean it isn’t fair. And that doesn’t mean the right person didn’t win.
I’m literally asking for more specifics. I wouldn’t be asking if I weren’t open to the possibility.
I’d settle for Fox News.
Ok. I guess I will just have to wonder since you apparently aren’t going to say.
I didn’t say that. I said one person is being incredibly unfair right now and you want to say “oh like Democrats are fair.” That’s shifting and a strawman. We’re talking about the election correct? Democrats aren’t screaming about stopping the vote. If you want to talk about something else that’s fine.
So it seems like to the best of our knowledge this hasn’t happened. I was genuinely asking. If it had we would have likely heard about it.
I don’t know what dirty games being played by both sides means. Does politics have a history of being dirty? Yes. Does this tell us anything at all about the current election? Not really.
If widespread voter fraud occurred I would want to know about it and fix it. I want Trump to lose but I don’t want anyone to lose that should have won fairly. I’ve already said that in this thread.
But I’m not sure what exactly seems so fishy about this so far. Democrats have largely underperformed polls. But we can’t accept that they won battleground states that are historically tight?
I mean Trump won MI, PA, and WI by small margins in 2016. And we can’t accept that it’s possible that a much more popular Biden than Clinton made that ground up?
I wouldn’t be so bold as to presume to know why the President says certain things.
Shifting. Strawman. Fancy words. You must be a fancy man with a fancy liberal arts degree. I expect you will be doing a fancy dance when Joe gets pushed passed 270.
All jokes aside. Why don’t you go up and read the conversation as it pertains to the quote above and see if it is shifting or a straw man.
Here I will help you.
Sooo we were literally having a conversation about a bunch of conjecture you made regarding Trump demanding the vote to stop. Telling his voters the election would be rigged. Presuming to know why he said it would be rigged. Although you don’t really know why he said it do you? Of course not. You can guess though. But make it known that is your opinion and not fact.
Then you stated fairness has never mattered to him. And assumed he would be upset that he loses the election he will just be upset because of what people will think of him if he loses.
Again all of that is opinion. Your opinion.
Your original quote:
But ask me to come with the facts why don’t yah.
Yeah I’ve also said I don’t know it has happened but I’ve seen proof of dead people receiving ballots and those ballots having been received by the voting centres.
Now the centres are supposed to screen for this and discard the ballots.
But when you look at video footage of the poll centres. Look who is staffing them and you see a bunch of angry looking people wearing face masks with BIDEN 2020 embroidered on them.
Would it be such a stretch to entertain the possibility that perhaps these people might let some votes through.
I don’t know. Maybe not. Maybe these are very honourable people.
My gut feeling says they are not. But what the hell do I know.
Have you ever used the post office? NOW we’re surprised the mail isn’t reliable? DeJoy didn’t make the USPS unreliable, it’s always been that way. It’s just one of many examples why government controlled health care or anything else is a bad idea.
If it was postmarked by the deadline, then it’s reasonable to count that vote. But the PA court changed the deadline, and they can’t do that. So any votes recieved after the original deadline of 8pm November 3rd are invalid and should not be counted.
Because the votes keep coming in after the deadline. Stop counting the votes recieved after the deadline.
I must have missed this. You’re telling me a bunch of angry looking people wearing Biden face masks are staffing all these polling centers? I must have missed this one? Do you mean monitors?
Do you have a link? I mean first we had the (easily debunked) Wisconsin has more people voting than is possible. Then we had 140,000 or whatever votes all went for Biden (error that was corrected quickly, easily debunked). I’d love to see something coming from the right that had some traction. I can’t find a thing though so please show me all these angry looking people wearing Biden masks who are making sure votes aren’t going to Trump.
They would if they were losing and thought illegitimate votes were being counted
That’s not what the President said. He said that while votes were being counted. Also it would behoove you to learn about the different requirements different states have for their elections.
Again the President even before the election said stop counting on Election Day which isn’t how things work.
He doesn’t need defended over everything.
I had zero doubt Trump would think every vote against him was illegitimate.
I knew you were only going to respond to that part of my post.
Me too.
Well your just lazy then bud.
Can you read.
Your response kinda implies I made some bold claims which I did not.
I saw what I saw. I am not even saying its proof of anything. Just an observation. I am not here to convince anyone of anything.
I am just along for the ride.
I am aware each state has different voting laws. I’ve been referring to PA in this thread, and if I’m wrong about their voting laws, correct me. Consider me behooved.
Only the illegitimate ones.
You dirty slut.
I guess I assumed in the age of the internet that if angry looking people with Biden masks were in the polling centers so much that a story would be out. I’m wondering if you saw a monitor or something?
Of course not. I mean you said would it be such a stretch that they didn’t let votes go through? I suppose it wouldn’t. I just didn’t realize that was a thing no one else was mentioning which is why I asked.
Shhh…if the Democrats find out they’ll want to recruit me.