US Presidential Election Predictions

Damn, nice lol. If those are your pitching stats you’re cruising for a Cy Young. :sweat_smile:

This I can’t fathom. Every time I think we’ve hit peak absurdity we find a way to go farther. I mean, there was a amicus brief filed on behalf of a Christian coalition where the submitting attorneys said they hadn’t had time to inform their party of filing the brief.

Which is absurd, but also about the only way anyone should have their name attached to this atrocity.

Signing your name to this, especially (one assumes) as a former lawyer (since most reps are lawyers) is just… beyond foolish. Just read the briefs before filing. Even Cornyn said in what is probably his only instance of even vague pushback “the legal theory is strained and I’m not convinced”.

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Just to add, @Aragorn :

I can’t believe the number of individuals who actually support, defend and justify these actions

I know I’m saying it a lot…but It’s all so surreal…

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I realize Ken Paxton is submitting the case in exchange for a pardon. I also realize other Republican AGs and House members on board because showing support is the path of least resistance (don’t want to upset the Trump base) while knowing full well the case is DOA. The cynicism is disappointing, but not surprising. What bothers me is this BS gives a third of the country a false sense of hope and allows them to suspend disbelief a little bit longer. When they eventually come down, they’re going to be that much more belligerent and insistent that Biden is an illimitable President… and the divisiveness continues. I miss the days when both parties could at least agree the other was acting in good faith even while acknowledging policy differences.

I think it’d be fun for the California AG to submit an identical brief, except replace the 4 swing states in Paxton’s claim with Ohio, Texas, and Florida.

I think the big question is how is this going to affect the Georgia runoffs? Are people going to vote for the party that’s telling them their vote doesn’t count?

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And motivates them to continue to send in a shit-load of money to Trump and his PAC, @kjm

Nobody has a clue lol. From 538:

" not all of the messaging is consistent, at least on the GOP side: Some pro-Trump figures who still (falsely) insist that last month’s presidential vote in Georgia was rigged are urging Republicans not to participate in an election they do not view as fair. While it seems unlikely that the message can compete with a nine-digit ad campaign to drive up turnout, there are signs that Republicans’ current lack of faith in the electoral process could keep some of them away from the ballot box"

Some Republicans running ads NOT to participate. That’s just strange. That’s 2020 for you.

538 Poll average shows Ossoff was 4 pts down a week after the election, and he’s now up 1 pt. Loeffler was up 1 ish or and is now down 2 ish. Obviously far too tight to call and not a lot of polling has been done yet, but the trend is blue. Then there’s this:

“…among registered voters who backed Trump in November but said they aren’t likely to vote in the runoffs, 23 percent said the main reason they planned to stay home was that they believed the voting process was rigged.”

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Btw, almost 300 million dollars has been spent in ads so far for the run-off.

I am going to laugh my ass off if Trump’s shit-fit throwing hysterics lose the Senate majority for the GOP. Maximum schadenfreude. Over 9000.

I still don’t want one party to control both houses of Congress and the White House because I think it’s bad for everyone, so I’d rather the GOP maintain a majority. But I am going to laugh and laugh and laugh. Reap it suckers.

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Eh, a fool and his money are easily parted. I’m not super bothered by Republicans giving Trump money to pay lawyers and pay of his debts.

I mean, this is the inevitable outcome, right? Republican are telling Georgians the election is rigged against them and them showing them they’re perfectly happy to nullify their votes. Not a good message for a party so reliant on strong party turnout.

Well, I mean there was always the “you have to turn out extra strong for us to make sure they don’t get away with rigging the whole thing!!1!1” possibility. But yeah I’m not surprised to hear a significant chunk of previous GOP voters aren’t going to turn out when their own party has told them the game is rigged.

I still think the asinine amount of money being spent to drive up turnout will eventually succeed, just by virtue of volume spent. More than enough time til the run-off, but right now it’s even money that turnout goes up…and shifts blue at the same time. That would be a trick and a half.

That doesn’t sound reasonable though.
If there are no controls, get out there and vote several ti…

Hang on, bunch of guys pounding on my front door.

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Hahaha. Yeah, I suppose. I think when you run months making some of these claims though you can end up hurting your own side. Why vote if it’s all rigged? You could have the opposite reaction I suppose like I mentioned, but my experience tends to be that human nature leans to the “why bother” side.

You can’t? It would be more unbelievable if the number were smaller.

I think the most likely result is they decline to hear the case and provide no comment. I think the country would be well served to hear from the court on why the lawsuit is asinine with plenty of strong language about federalism, rule of law, and the important of democracy. I think a nice brush back pitch that tells Team Trump to knock it off would do wonders to end this frivolous litigation throughout the country.

But I don’t think they actually do it.

EDIT: one other thing - while this is all a travesty, one of it’s unappreciated side tragedies is that Scalia isn’t on the bench while this is going down. No way he’d stand for being silent - and he would shred the Texas AG and his co-conspirators and leave a trail of bodies in his wake.

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“There goes SCOTUS legislating from the bench!! Now they’re even electing our presidents!”

I can hear it now…

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Having filed this lawsuit, Republicans have forfeited any right to complain about judicial activism again. Ever. They want nine unelected justices to overturn the votes of the American people and give them the result the people would not.

Hahaha. The attorneys filing all these cases just see big fat dollar signs when they see another trump rally happening. “What ridiculous BS can we come up with next to file another case and get PAIIIID!?” Blank checks for shoddy work… I’m jealous.

How many of these trump rally-goers also whine about bullshit lawsuits, lawyers and our litigious society ruining america?

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How many of them are worried about Mexican rapists taking their jobs as they hand over their money to wealthy white men… who think they are just inbred trash?

But as Calvera said, if god didn’t want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep.

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This whole thing is quite telling…

SCOTUS dismisses case, citing lack of standing.

So, nothing gained at all by Republicans in election terms, and the trade-off? They are left with the stain of supporting of this atrocity for years to come.

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