I know. Why would anyone think the potus would be important?
I don’t think that was cnn.
Apparently.
From Trump, obviously.
Even though you get your news from social media.
He is the most important person in the country by virtue of his status as President. And by virtue of his status as President of one of a global power that makes him one of the most important people in the world. They didn’t have to “make” him anything.
I’m not on it.
This makes no sense. If most people are not on Twitter it would follow that the major media is also not a “subsidiary” of Twitter. And in any case, the media existed long before Twitter. I read that evidence you provided and find it lacking. The fact that journalists use Twitter and communicate with other journalists via Twitter does not lead to the conclusion that they ONLY get their story ideas on Twitter.
Likewise, the fact that many journalists do more “hot takes” than solid Woodwardian journalism is not to say that the MSM is a subsidiary of Twitter. It says that journalism schools often suck now, are getting the wrong kind of students, and/or that the culture of information gathering has changed and that nothing is solidified yet.
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Really? That’s your reasoning? Trump’s lies, demeanour, actions, statements, lies, tweets, lies and dishonesty, as the POTUS, merit no criticism at all, it’s all just the Media not liking him?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ROFLMAO!
You guys are like the Terminator, FUCKING OUT THERE! You can’t be reasoned with, you can’t be bargained with…and you will absolutely will not stop.
Dude, he IS the most important person in the world lol. It was the same with Obama, Bush and Clinton. It didn’t take the media to make him so.
Why do you think we know who ALL your modern day Presidents are and follow your political news all the time? Whatever comes out of their mouths moves global markets.
Who the fuck knows the President of India is lol? Do you? Cos even I don’t remember his name. What about the PM? Brazil? People know the CCP. Do they know Xi? And if they do, is it only because Trump kept mentioning his name? Can you name me any China President before him? Germany? France? Can you tell me the name of the current PM of Japan cos even I don’t fucking know lol.
Can any of your friends in the US name me any other recent politician in the UK other than Boris Johnson? Who knows anything about Corbyn other than he’s a commie?
Can you even spell Kim Jung Ill? Do you know his father’s name? Even I keep mistaking the former’s name for his son’s name even though he’s been dead for so long.
I think the only other guy in the world everyone knows is Putin. But nobody follows Russian news.
You get someone who tweets like a child on twitter every single day and the WORLD is watching, dude. The media wouldn’t have the excuse to shit on him if he didn’t say and tweet so much dumb shit.
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And to be clear, I shit on the MSM a lot too because they clearly went overboard with the constant Trump nonsense, which is quite evident from my posts in this thread.
Before Trump, most people I know in China had a great impression of the US. Shit, in the 2000s, they’d rather import US products because they didn’t trust the shit from China. They only hate him NOW because he kept dissing them and the CCP’s been using this as an excuse to create anti-US sentiments. Shit, no one even knows the real reason behind the Huawei issue. They just think the US hates China brands.
Just use Xiaomi. It’s cheap and good. I won’t use anything else.
How did I get to Xiaomi? Oh fuck it. Their smart phones and TVs rock.
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Yeah, and it’s funny how these idiots forget that Trump was a birther. They should just shut up with their crying about lies and social media. It was ok to make up ridiculous lies about Obama but it’s not fair when it’s Trump. I wonder why?
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Do you know people were celebrating and the browner skinned dudes were having Obama imitation and look-a-like competitions in South Asia when he won because somehow they thought he represented them as well? This is how much of an impact the US has on the world, not to mention the world economy. His first victory even led to record turn outs in local elections all over South Asia which rattled governments who had managed to stay in power for long periods of time so much that some of them started socially liberalizing their respective countries.
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Trump, in contrast, is only brought up as a target of jokes by local comedians. The Hongkongers only called on him to “help” them because he was the President of the US and they thought he would go down hard on China, not because they liked him, unlike what some right wing sites were claiming. If Biden doesn’t ease up on the trade war and general demands for human rights, they’ll be supporting him too.
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To be fair to Trump, his trade war did force China to start rapid economic liberalization AND focus on local innovation out of necessity, which has led to, and will lead to better outcomes in the long run for the general population since it would require a degree of decentralization of powers for such innovation to take place, which is also why the CCP hates him so much.
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You posted a whole thread on this, and most of it felt it was completely lacking in evidence. You may argue they selectively cover events, but their reporting (save Op Eds) generally report what happens. Even Fox News has to say Biden is the projected winner, much to the chagrin of their fanbase.
Umm, he is the President of the most powerful country in the world. The media didn’t make that so, it was already like that.
You mean like Sidney Powell, Donald Trump, and Donald Trump Jr? I agree completely.
You don’t need any media spin for this. Trying to take down the public’s trust in our elections WITH NO EVIDENCE, and coming in wiith the initial declaration of “Either I win big or it’s a fraud” is not the MSM saying Trump is bad, it’s Trump himself say “Orange man bad” while pointing both of his tiny thumbs at himself.
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I would disagree with your above points in general other than him being the President of the most powerful country in the world but for THIS. I can’t even believe he’s claiming fraud. This isn’t even something authoritarian governments in 3rd World Countries with democratic elections do nowadays.
And yet…sadly, he is doing just that. It doesn’t even matter whether he believes it himself or not (at this point he probably doesn’t anymore). The bare fact he’s saying this at all is what galls me so.
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I don’t think he believes it’s true at all, or even cares enough to think about it. It’s all about feeding his base “red meat”, and there’s no juicier cut than “Dems cheated and stole the election”. I just can’t believe the sheer numbers of them willing to buy into conspiracy theories rather than, you know, the “our guy lost this one” option.
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Well, blame the spineless GOP leaders for that. Or Trump of course, since he has been saying this for months beforehand but I digress…At least Crenshaw had a fair opinion (to my last knowledge - I don’t look at twitter) when he said “We had to accept the possibility of a loss”…
I’m just disgusted with the complete lack of spine in the party I used to believe in. Although to be fair it was prior to Trump’s inauguration that my problems with behavior began.
EDIT—I don’t give a shit about how awesome the red meat is. You don’t make those kinds of allegations lightly.
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It was pretty funny though. When CNN were saying Trump’s “going STRAIGHT to the Supreme Court” I couldn’t stop laughing at the knee jerk reactions from the ones doing the reporting live on TV who didn’t know the actual legal process.
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Emperor Hirohito, August 1945. Change some words and it could pass for a GOP concession statement.
But now the war has lasted for nearly four years. Despite the best that has been done by everyone—the gallant fighting of the military and naval forces, the diligence and assiduity of Our servants of the State, and the devoted service of Our one hundred million people—the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan’s advantage
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Agreed. I am not strictly a “Dem” or “liberal”, and vote a spectrum of party tickets, and I think many are this way. I also think the GOP officials sold their souls for a short term “lightning in a bottle” that will ultimately leave them looking like fools.
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I hope not, but if so I called this in 2016. I am furious with them so probably not the time to ask me lol. Lightning strikes whoever is closest.
Well, it’s legal. And Trump pissed off like 99% of the tech industry which is filled with people with lots of money. It’s not surprising IMO. However senile Biden sounded in his debates, he’s right about this being a K shaped recovery.
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It’s different this time and you know it. We’ve had lots of presidents whose name we can’t even remember. Nobody in modern history has been talked about and debated more than Trump. It’s not even close. People have tied their very existence to this guy, I do not know another president who has people’s existence ride on their own. This is a phenomenon on both sides.
Oh? What part is that? What did you find lacking?
So when they print the same inaccurate stories in different outlets, where even their source material contradicts their narrative, you believe they are doing actual journalism?
I am suspecting you didn’t really read the study.
So you agree that journalism is, for all intents and purposes, dead, you just disagree on why. This doesn’t square with what you said above.
I said, here is the reason and here is evidence of it. You said, that’s not the reason, it’s this reason, but provided no evidence for it. But you agree that journalism is dead.
In the end, all that matters is that you know journalism is dead, it’s a cesspool of lies and we both know it.
You’re a tough person to figure out, in that I can’t tell what’s important to you and what is not. We clearly don’t value the same things in the same order. Or we value the same things in a different order, I don’t know what you stand for.
Like, where are the culture wars and violence on your metric?
What about civil liberties? Do civil liberties matter to you or do you scale it against perceived threats?
I’ll let you answer before I say anything else.
I had a feeling this was going to be a problem, I didn’t know how to preempt it and still don’t. You and I know I am not talking about the fact that he’s merely the president. It’s that a significant portion of the population and media ride and die on every little thing he does.
Just look up how many hours have been spent on Trump vs. any other president or any other world leader combined. The only distant second is Putin and only because Trump.
Can we pretend at least to be on the same page?
Uh, you made my point for me. Exactly.
Trump isn’t the most popular person in the world, for fact that he was simply president. Even in the 20th century there are a handful of presidents whose name I barely recognize for their insignificance.
And worse you get people who hang on every tweet, somehow not realizing tweets are not policy and policy is happening, loads of it. So who cares about the tweets? Apparently too many people.
They freak out about his tweets and while they are distracted, he is enacting policy. I don’t know how intentional it is, but I have to believe it’s at least partially intentional. It’s so obviously easy to do, to distract with a tweet that only a fool wouldn’t use it as a distraction. While the wolves are tearing at the tweet, he’s free to go about his business.
What you have to do is find a tweet that made everybody nuts, then look over the same timeline and see what were the actual actions of the administration. Many times those tweets square with an action that the media would have ordinarily gone nuts over, but were instead holding panels about how inappropriate the tweet was.
And the media falls for it every single time.
Isn’t this a good thing?