No it isn’t… recounts with slight shifts in margin have happened before. It’s a rare occurance, but far from unprecedented
There is no evidence on any level to suggest widespread voter fraud has occurred. On the contrary extensive voter suppression via relocating polling stations, passing new, extremely stringent voter ID laws etc have been pushed by the GOP.
Extensive voter suppression yet Trump still lost the election, so now it’s gotta be fraud right? What’s even more concerning, half of republicans polled believe Trump won the election. Some lunatic aquaintences I went to school with in the USA are rambling on about the “lamestream media” and “mark my words, Trump will run a second term. He’s won and you’d have to be a moron to think otherwise”.
It’s amazing how a certain demographic are so hellbent on denying/refuting facts and instead prefer bullshit conspiracy theories as to cater towards their fantasy narrative.
Damn…this thread is long. Feel free to ignore my out of date post! Lol. But I gotta say some things anyway…
This… this is an absolute tragedy. I would have been gutted. Priest is one of the few classic metal legends I have never been able to actually see… Something always happens. All the more reason for us to kill this virus off so we can get back to headbanging!
I had tickets for the Megadeth tour to complete my Big 4 concerts until they canceled. Heartbreaking. But I have the tickets guaranteed for next year.
Nooooooooooooo!
While I am still days behind on this thread… This is something I am pretty sensitive to. I don’t necessarily agree with people who talk about that. But you’ll notice I very rarely if ever tell one of the posters more conservative than me that their concerns about democracy coming under attack are paranoid. The only way we keep our representative government intact it to have some degree of antennae open at all times regardless of party affiliation.
Exactly.
What the fuck dude?! I feel legitimately terrible for you now. That’s just unfair. I saw one of the last concert tours he did before he got sick and it was the highlight of my year. There is at least one YouTube video out there where you can see the top of my head crashing back and forth in the pit during Ace of Spades.
This is one of the major reasons I have been so critical of Trump and the short term thinking congressional enablers (this is not all GOP legislators by a long shot).
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, and I DON’T want the progressive element of the democrats to be able to use the same tricks.
This is actually exactly why I am critical of some things that occurred in the Trump years that are positive to me in ideology or policy.
You can’t close Pandora’s box. This is exactly why I feel civility and behavioral / procedural norms are important in government.
This was absolute gold. I wish I could put this video as a times square banner. This is what I have hated about the democrats my whole life, and this is also why I rarely tell someone more conservative than me (QAnon and flat earth crazies aside) that their concerns are BS.
I just look at them as a party and go “…grow a fucking spine please?? The outside world doesn’t do shit this way”. Like, that Midwest guy talking about the parent apologizing to her fucking 3 year old… That is real and I’ve seen it, and it’s bullshit. Obviously that doesn’t mean the majority of democrats are like that. But… As @loppar has noted, the intolerant and vocal minority tend to run the narrative.
Sadly this lack of balls and spine is also true of many in the GOP right now :/.
I know a lot of shit is really corrupt over there, but I seriously, seriously wish we had some of this kind of punishment doled out to politicos here. Deterrents and all that…
Also, the Kavanaugh debacle was an absolute disgrace.
Everyone knows George Soros (using the same laboratory in Kenyan he used to spawn Obama) had his own laptop for this. He secured the win for Biden and then right before he fixed the house and senate Hunter came in a drug fueled craze and stole his laptop claiming his other one got taken by a MAGA guy.
They almost got away with the whole thing. Instead they just got away with beating Trump.
This is pretty much exactly why I’m an Independent and refuse to register to a party.
Well, that and the stupid volume of junk mail.
Agree. I think that the midterms will shed better light on where we are actually sitting (although it’s not going to stop me from shooting off my mouth in here lol). 2020 had too many damned weird quirks to tell whether there’s a solid trend going by party affiliation.
Bush loved to chop firewood and clear brush, which I recall flummoxed a good portion of his guests at his Texas ranch
Yes, and it’s bullshit. I lambasted Obama for doing this and telegraphing it when he was in office. To quote the world’s best secret agent, Archer: “You want ISIS? Because that’s how you get ISIS.”
I’m not opposed to the draw down… I’m opposed to the draw down without any semblance of a plan and with no regard for future stability.
Out-fucking-standing post. I had a very long and rather vocal history on this board of being an Obama critic during his administration, and I stand by most of that. This isn’t binary, or it shouldn’t be.
He will never be held to account for these things, but it is without a doubt the most childish of tantrums. Fuck him. (Actually no, nobody do that, for the love of all that is good). Fight this shit in court, investigate. I don’t think he has any ability to win and almost all the lawsuits have been tossed or hamstrung, but do it. I support that.
I don’t support scorched earth. I live in this world and I want it to be relatively stable when he leaves thank you.
I apparently reached my maximum “likes” allowed or I would try to like this 10,000 times. I don’t care what party does this, it’s disgusting and not to be allowed in any shape. Character matters, behavior matters, words matter. Policies are vitally important, but not the be-all, end-all.
Also, I miss the shit out of Atomic Dog articles. I even bought the book just to support it (so funny).
I’d agree… But that would require many of them to use effort. Actual effort.
My Trump supporting acquaintances are somewhere between depression and acceptance at this point, but let’s say you’re a Trump supporter entertaining all this… At some point your brain has to reject this bullshit, right? The incongruity between reality and what Trump’s crack team of lawyers is serving up is just too much, right? Secret Army raids in Germany? Trump won California and 410 electoral votes? Crazy. But, it will be interesting to see just how long and far some folks are willing to suspend disbelief.
You can’t help but wonder the end game is for these lawyers. I think Giuliani is just desperate to hold onto any kind of relevance. My guess for Sidney Powell is that she has political ambitions and rightly sees that Trump will be a Republican kingmaker when he’s out of office.
Oh my God! The last month I was throwing away what must have been $100.00 a week in printed campaign brochures.
I joked with the wife that each party should just save the landfill space, energy, and natural resources and just sent a check for the amount they would have spent. Like Christmas after you find out about Santa.
When it was shared, I thought the movie dub over Hitler’s bunker talking about Biden and the election was funny.
The longer this shit goes on the more I think it might actually have been a secret recording of actual Trump rantings. WTF 2020.
This cannot be stated enough. Bias is real, has always been real, and likely will always be there. But that’s why God gave us brains and the ability to use them. What’s that Galileo quote? “I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use”
As far as I am aware this sort of almost nihilistic, “everything is biased equally so it doesn’t matter” outlook is a very recent phenomenon. And it is dangerous.
I’m good with Shapiro, he always seems to be straightforward. O’Reilly used to be ok, but somewhere along the line I feel like he went nuts or started mailing it in, or both. He is definitely as far right as I will go in “talking head” world.
But I don’t care how small an incident of fraud is uncovered. I say prosecute all-out.
America’s mayor has fallen hard, but he’s still got good taste in movies.
I have done my absolute best to eliminate myself from all political mailing lists and I STILL get asinine volumes of (snail) mail, including at least two email lists that I have unsubscribed from multiple times without effect.
Just like Trump wouldn’t be such an easy target for the press since he says and tweets so much stupid shit all the time, the press wouldn’t be able to be discredited if they didn’t spin so much bullshit either.
You want a free and honest press, you need to call them out when they’re being dishonest regardless of whether they’re on your side or not. You don’t do that, people just seek alternative media. You can’t assume people are mouth breathing morons for doing that if they’re smart enough to see all the spin in the mainstream media. It’s a sign of a real problem with the media that needs to be resolved by people on all sides.
And it’s redundant to even bring up someone like Alex Jones since calling him out would be a waste of time as he appeals mainly to a particular demographic that includes people who think the earth is flat, but instead give him more exposure through word of mouth.
That’s how people who deliberately make provocative statements get their audience. You’re doing the advertising for them by bringing them up just to discredit them.
The mainstream media, like Reuters - a multi billion dollar corporation - have ample budgets to advertise themselves. These youtube bums don’t. Just fucking ignore them and half of them will just go away.
It’s why I try not to even mention him and that bald Canadian fuck talking about INCELS and shit. It’s just free publicity for them.
When I see some dumb as shit provocative byline, I immediately ignore it. People linking shit like that as examples of “bad” are just as culpable as the people linking shit like that as “good”.