The ability to count.
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Which is ironic, as he comes off as either misinformed or uninformed most of the time.
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Also, the selfish interest of people who don’t want to be disbarred.
The “stolen election” scam is simply that - the latest scam to separate suckers from their money.
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These lawyers are in a tough position. They are risking their careers and probably doing all this as unintentional charity work.
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Anyone want to take a crack at Biden ballots with no down ballot votes?
I tabbed the other day there were ~ 130,000 in Texas and posted it here.
No one thinks that suspicious for box stuffing?
Right. And it’s a disgrace that our lame duck POTUS is directly saying our elections process is fraudulent and not to be trusted, instead of saying let’s make sure to get the votes counted correctly. Absolute fucking (orange) stain on america.
Words from a leader 100% matter, as they incite actions.
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Or maybe there was fraud, but Hillary sent her goons after the lawyers.
"Nice kids you have there…be a a shame if something happened to them…
When you have tens of thousands of phony ballots to fill out, and not a lot of time to do it, you obviously don’t have time to worry about down ballot votes.
@ddinante not sure why you deleted post.
I don’t think it’s illogical to be curious as to why it ‘appears’ that one would wish to see Trump gone, but not also wish to try to capture the Senate and House seat also by taking the 2 sec time to mark for those candidates on the ballot.
Dogcatcher, Constable, etc get blown off - ok, l can see that as not being important.
It’s difficult to get 12 to agree on a jury, or a whole extended family to agree on ham or turkey, or gasp get every single vote in DC to vote for the Dem.
One can be suspicious about rumblings of single vote ballots, or machines that enter blocks of vote 100% for one party, or non State Legislatures changing election procedures, or 300 lawsuits filed prior to a ‘must win’ election, or sworn stories of being directed to overlook unlawful procedures, or machines changing votes, or sending out millions of unsolicited ballots (personally not aware if this has ever been a thing)…
Perhaps there is a fire, perhaps there isn’t. But being suspicious and looking into a huge litany of seemingly endless attempts at skirting the system looks right to me.
The fact is that not one cocksure Lib here or in the media knows any more than l do, whether these things have occured in widespread manner or not. So coming on here or posting in the media, a bunch of prejoratives or denigrating even the questioning of validity, is gaslighting and disingenuous.
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A couple of things. If democrats orchestrated the greatest fraud in election history to the extent they left no credible evidence while coordinating hundreds of thousands of votes, who knows how many players, and infiltrated republican-run states while knowing Trump had turned on the fraud alert and “watch closely” instructions - you don’t think they would have bothered to make ballots look as normal as possible?
Second, this is not fully true.
- It’s not uncommon that people only vote for the “main show” item, especially when candidates are as polarizing as in this election.
- These numbers represent “gaps” between votes for Biden and down-ticket democrats. Many, many people do not vote straight ticket democrat or republican. Sure, the loudest yellers of “fraud” do, but that’s fringe voters. The majority or central-left or central-right, and are willing to vote for candidates from either party.
Although this is about Georgia, the same logic applies to Texas:
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. If anyone truly believes that, that person is an idiot.
The problem for Trump and his minions is that you can’t just claim fraud in court - the rules prevent people from frivolously claiming it and dragging people into lawsuits. The standard is you have to sign your name to it with some level of specific alleged proof, and if it turns out to be horseshit, people get in trouble.
These lawyers know better and aren’t signing their name to it - because they know they face professional consequences if they do.
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Meant in jest brother, I guess I should have put a ha ha after it or something.
But seriously, I BET SETH RICH DOESN’T THINK ITS RIDICULOUS!!!
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I don’t think it’s suspicious. First, as was mentioned before, a concerted effort at ballot stuffing would NOT have left down ballot boxes blank. Second, this election brought out many people who rarely or never vote and they probably don’t know/care about down ballot votes. I’ll admit to leaving some down ballot boxes blank before simply due to ignorance about the candidates. I’ve always voted for Republican Presidential candidates before Trump, but I don’t always vote along party lines down ballot.
Heard an interview with a lady the other night who did the opposite in PA. She filled out all the down ballot votes for Republicans but couldn’t/wouldn’t vote for Trump or Biden so she left the top blank. Apparently she was one of quite a few who did the same.
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First off - your statement of ‘there is no evidence’ is strictly an opinion. You are welcome to it, like saying the weather is nicer here than there. But if computer changed tabulations internally, if envelopes were thrown away en masse, if poll watchers were denied poll watching - then there is credible reason to suspect.
Second, on GA l can’t speak. But in TX, l added all R, D, and I votes for President, Senate, and House. Should have kept numbers but that is a bunch of keypunching to replicate for a few people.
However, this is what l found. I used state wide senate vote as my ‘control’
- R & D had almost identical counts in senate and house totals.
- Moving up to Pres, R dropped off by 70k (i venture non trumpers), l dropped off
160k from house raaces (i venture favoring binary selection over protest vote). - When you compare Trump totals to Cornyn, after subtracting the 70 and the 160,
there appears to be 130k votes cast for Biden that had no senate or house vote.
Sorry the numbers are not exact or even in spreadsheet. It was just a little thought experiment on my part several days ago. Not to come with a conspiracy, just curiosity. Only since then, have l heard mention of this in press.
It also doesn’t line up with the results of the election in the slightest. Why in the hell would you have the power to do all this to win the Presidency but wouldn’t target the simple competitive areas to win the Senate? It would be far easier to rig a few tight Senate races in known states than pull something off on a national level. Just makes zero sense.
So far we have the Republican who tried to get a dead person to vote. How do we know the election wasn’t rigged against Dems?!?!
It is was, we need to know that too.
Our convoluted system is making the Iraqi inked thumb system look brilliant.
By all means yes look at things. Fix things that need to be fixed. I don’t mind this being standard after every election. Zero chance an election with this many people doesn’t have errors. Just like it did in every other year.
But right now wouldn’t you say the evidence of mass voter fraud is pretty weak? Lawsuits thrown out, sex offenders giving testimony at the press conference, a woman on Fox who said it was suspicious that vans were unloaded from the back that weren’t big enough to feed people, a judge calling out Trump lawyers for the way they compiled evidence, Trump lawyers saying they have no evidence of fraud.
We have never had evidence of large scale voter fraud and it’s been investigated numerous times over and over. Yet somehow this is the election it happened in droves? And somehow got Biden elected but lost power elsewhere?
Seems like the best evidence of election fuckery has been Republicans in the great state of Texas trying to disenfranchise Dems in Harris County because a lot very voting.
(I was pretty sure you weren’t serious…pretty sure.)
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Truthfully havent stayed on top of it other than being aware.
Somewhere up thread, l commented if these are conjectures without some fleshed out evidence, they make the GOP look stupid.
Still hold to that. Nothing other than my wishful thinking has me seeing any flip.
The likeliest thing to me is the computer program that flipped the 3000 votes. If it did that, it should be easy to test. If more than one at a time whistleblowers make credible statements that match or offer some videos - maybe there is something.
If non legislature entities have changed rules against the dictate of the Constitution, the votes should be cancelled and those entities prosecuted as examples.
Thinking that there aren’t people who can come up ways to part one from their money, vote, reputation and doing it undetected, is more faith than l can muster.
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