Urgent Pinning Question, Aspirated Blood (Pic)

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Hi guys

First time here - excuse if this is in the wrong place but anyways

So been on cycle 75mg eod test/tren ace
-4 weeks in today / 3-4 weeks left on

PCT and cycle therapy is all on point (no stress there)

So to the point!

Todays pin - on the “pullback” or aspiration rather - I drew a large amount of blood back

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(looks like normal blood - not too dark or light) into the syringe
I cleaned area and pinned approx. 1cm down from the site
Same thing again…

Question is - am I hitting an abscess or did I just pin a vein twice?
-I managed to pull 1-2ml of blood back into the syringe pretty easily too…

The site itself (quad btw) looks normal to me
-no swelling
-no redness
-no excessive heat etc

I attached a picture of the blood I squirted out from the syringe
-has some oil mixed in obviously

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It happens sometimes. If you go in straight but move the needle a bit at an angle (which can happen if you’re using a non-dominant hand or whatever) you’ll get some blood. It’s not a big deal. If you’re still bleeding minutes after then maybe I’d get a little concerned, but otherwise you’re fine. After all, you’re sticking something sharp into your muscle. There’s blood in there.

Also…why are you aspirating?

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Thanks for the reply,

I generally aspirate to check i haven’t hit a vein
-Was told it was good “hygiene” to do on each pin to avoid plugging the oil into the veins?

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I’ve been taking two shots a week for 88 weeks and have never once aspirated. I don’t see the need. The barrel is clear of air and only has oil in it, everything is sterile, and it’s going into a muscle. I’m sure I’ve technically hit a vein a number of times, but it’s never caused an issue. Instructions from my doctor were to not—explicitly—aspirate.

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Alright - thanks for the piece of mind on this.

Will just pin the other leg for now and take it as it comes i guess.

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I’ve been pinning for probably 7+ years and have never aspirated.

I used to get more blood when pinning middle quads, now I pin way up high on my leg, almost near my hip. No pain, no bleeding, and quick dispersal due to proximity to the hip joint. (at least thats what i think)

See pic. I pin where the red circle is. Alternating sides each time. My wife also pins my glutes when I ask.

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Fantastic - will try pinning further up and see how that goes.
-Current spot is getting abit tight with the EOD pinning so would be nice to switch it up abit.

Not a fan of the glutes - struggle to keep steady when pinning myself and get horrible pain from the movement XD

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Agreed. I can’t pin glutes on my own. No significant other to help you?

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Nope - unfortunately not.

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Some guys can pin their delts too. Again, not me. Have you tried this? Typically, you can use a 1" needle for this.

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I pin delts. 1/2" 28gauge insulin needle.

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Then you’re doing ok. You got 4 sites to rotate with delts and quads. Pinning 2x a week should give you plenty of time between sites

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I’ve heard that straight shot of oil and test directly into a vein will make you wish you were dead. Is this not true or do you think that maybe you’ve just been really lucky?

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What size / length needle do you use for that site?

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I believe it’s the placement of the injections moreso than luck. Now watch me hit a vein tomorrow.

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I personally use a 23 gauge 1’’ needle

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Lmao! Murphy’s Law man!!

I was asking that because my doc told me to make sure I aspirate every time to make sure that I’m not in a vein. Just trying to compare notes because I should be getting my test from the pharmacy today and start pinning tonight.

Just when I feel confident that I’ve taken every precaution and covered every base, a discussion like this comes along and makes me doubt it all over again. Guess I just gotta just do it and see what’s going to work me!

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It never hurts to be prepared and to have all the information before jamming shape things into your body. You’ll find a comfortable way to do it. It takes some trial and (painful) error, but it gets easy pretty fast. Pain is a great motivator.

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Yes, It is extremely dangerous to inject in vein something that dense as oil. An emboly would occur and you may die if not cured.