Anyone else see this movie? Thoughts?
I found it amazing how none of the characters had a firm philosophical base, besides samuel l jackson, despite him emphasizing the ‘common good’ - at least he was consistent.
I thought it was a crazy good movie. Watched it on 1080 Bluray, that was awesome.
SPOILER
Honestly if I was in that situation towards the end with the children and all, I would have been just like the woman that was the main character (I forget the name), yelling “Let the nuke go off!” Or more like the second torturer-guy who just stopped at the end and ran out with the kids.
Did you watch the extended version?The ending was less ambiguous…
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
I thought it was a crazy good movie. Watched it on 1080 Bluray, that was awesome.
SPOILER
Honestly if I was in that situation towards the end with the children and all, I would have been just like the woman that was the main character (I forget the name), yelling “Let the nuke go off!” Or more like the second torturer-guy who just stopped at the end and ran out with the kids.[/quote]
Personally, I am against torture because it just creates more hatred and more enemies.
But in this situation, and in this hollywood plot, with the man being obviously guilty, I was down for it.
However, I would not have brought kids and wife into it. They were the innocents. But Jackson had the collective gameplan in his head. He was willing to sacrifice 1-3 people to save millions. All the other characters were topsy turvy. In the beginning, they all shit their pants when he cut off his finger. In the end, it was : “Do what you have to do”. Ah, the reality of nuclear weapons.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Did you watch the extended version?The ending was less ambiguous…[/quote]
You get to watch the bomb go off?
[quote]THE_CLAMP_DOWN wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
I thought it was a crazy good movie. Watched it on 1080 Bluray, that was awesome.
SPOILER
Honestly if I was in that situation towards the end with the children and all, I would have been just like the woman that was the main character (I forget the name), yelling “Let the nuke go off!” Or more like the second torturer-guy who just stopped at the end and ran out with the kids.[/quote]
Personally, I am against torture because it just creates more hatred and more enemies.
But in this situation, and in this hollywood plot, with the man being obviously guilty, I was down for it.
However, I would not have brought kids and wife into it. They were the innocents. But Jackson had the collective gameplan in his head. He was willing to sacrifice 1-3 people to save millions. All the other characters were topsy turvy. In the beginning, they all shit their pants when he cut off his finger. In the end, it was : “Do what you have to do”. Ah, the reality of nuclear weapons.
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Yes there is a difference between committing aggression on someone to stop something like a nuclear bomb to go off and torturing someone to get “information” out of someone that may or may not one.
[quote]THE_CLAMP_DOWN wrote:
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Did you watch the extended version?The ending was less ambiguous…[/quote]
You get to watch the bomb go off?[/quote]
Yes,Samuel L was right and there was a fourth.I thought it was a great sleeper movie.I would have let him do what he has to do to get the info…kids and all.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
[quote]THE_CLAMP_DOWN wrote:
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Did you watch the extended version?The ending was less ambiguous…[/quote]
You get to watch the bomb go off?[/quote]
Yes,Samuel L was right and there was a fourth.I thought it was a great sleeper movie.I would have let him do what he has to do to get the info…kids and all.[/quote]
Well I guess I did see the extended version, I just remember the last scene was the fourth bomb between that wall (next to the room where the 3rd bomb was).
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
[quote]THE_CLAMP_DOWN wrote:
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Did you watch the extended version?The ending was less ambiguous…[/quote]
You get to watch the bomb go off?[/quote]
Yes,Samuel L was right and there was a fourth.I thought it was a great sleeper movie.I would have let him do what he has to do to get the info…kids and all.[/quote]
Well I guess I did see the extended version, I just remember the last scene was the fourth bomb between that wall (next to the room where the 3rd bomb was). [/quote]
That’s the one.Regular version ended when the guy shot himself…
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]THE_CLAMP_DOWN wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
I thought it was a crazy good movie. Watched it on 1080 Bluray, that was awesome.
SPOILER
Honestly if I was in that situation towards the end with the children and all, I would have been just like the woman that was the main character (I forget the name), yelling “Let the nuke go off!” Or more like the second torturer-guy who just stopped at the end and ran out with the kids.[/quote]
Personally, I am against torture because it just creates more hatred and more enemies.
But in this situation, and in this hollywood plot, with the man being obviously guilty, I was down for it.
However, I would not have brought kids and wife into it. They were the innocents. But Jackson had the collective gameplan in his head. He was willing to sacrifice 1-3 people to save millions. All the other characters were topsy turvy. In the beginning, they all shit their pants when he cut off his finger. In the end, it was : “Do what you have to do”. Ah, the reality of nuclear weapons.
[/quote]
Yes there is a difference between committing aggression on someone to stop something like a nuclear bomb to go off and torturing someone to get “information” out of someone that may or may not one.[/quote]
The point of torture is not to obtain information, and anyone who says so is either lying or stupid. The point of torture is to manufacture information.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]THE_CLAMP_DOWN wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
I thought it was a crazy good movie. Watched it on 1080 Bluray, that was awesome.
SPOILER
Honestly if I was in that situation towards the end with the children and all, I would have been just like the woman that was the main character (I forget the name), yelling “Let the nuke go off!” Or more like the second torturer-guy who just stopped at the end and ran out with the kids.[/quote]
Personally, I am against torture because it just creates more hatred and more enemies.
But in this situation, and in this hollywood plot, with the man being obviously guilty, I was down for it.
However, I would not have brought kids and wife into it. They were the innocents. But Jackson had the collective gameplan in his head. He was willing to sacrifice 1-3 people to save millions. All the other characters were topsy turvy. In the beginning, they all shit their pants when he cut off his finger. In the end, it was : “Do what you have to do”. Ah, the reality of nuclear weapons.
[/quote]
Yes there is a difference between committing aggression on someone to stop something like a nuclear bomb to go off and torturing someone to get “information” out of someone that may or may not one.[/quote]
The point of torture is not to obtain information, and anyone who says so is either lying or stupid. The point of torture is to manufacture information. [/quote]
manufacture = obtain
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]THE_CLAMP_DOWN wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
I thought it was a crazy good movie. Watched it on 1080 Bluray, that was awesome.
SPOILER
Honestly if I was in that situation towards the end with the children and all, I would have been just like the woman that was the main character (I forget the name), yelling “Let the nuke go off!” Or more like the second torturer-guy who just stopped at the end and ran out with the kids.[/quote]
Personally, I am against torture because it just creates more hatred and more enemies.
But in this situation, and in this hollywood plot, with the man being obviously guilty, I was down for it.
However, I would not have brought kids and wife into it. They were the innocents. But Jackson had the collective gameplan in his head. He was willing to sacrifice 1-3 people to save millions. All the other characters were topsy turvy. In the beginning, they all shit their pants when he cut off his finger. In the end, it was : “Do what you have to do”. Ah, the reality of nuclear weapons.
[/quote]
Yes there is a difference between committing aggression on someone to stop something like a nuclear bomb to go off and torturing someone to get “information” out of someone that may or may not one.[/quote]
The point of torture is not to obtain information, and anyone who says so is either lying or stupid. The point of torture is to manufacture information. [/quote]
manufacture = obtain[/quote]
Tell you what. Lets meet up, you can sign a release saying I can do whatever I want to you, and I get to torture you however I like.
I promise I’ll get you to admit to being a rapist, pedophile, immortal, Batman, and whatever else I decide to “obtain” from you.
Deal?