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[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

Absolutely. It’s definitely not ice-breaking material.[/quote]

Lot’s of different ways to handle this, but I think I’d approach it differently.

If I underwent the change, I’d tell potential dates straight up: “Look, just so you know, I underwent gender reassignment surgery some years ago. Lots of people don’t care, but I know it’s a deal breaker for some. If it’s a deal breaker for you, let’s just cancel our date now rather than waste each other’s time. What do you say?”

Not entirely the same thing, but when I started dating again after my divorce, I told the women I was dating that I had a vasectomy usually around the third date or a few days after sleeping together if it seemed that we were into each other. That put the kibosh on quite a few relationships, but if not then, then when?
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Agreed again. Although I admit that in my 20’s I was pussy first, integrity and acting like an adult second.

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So some people here are saying that because she deceived you you should quit here. That’s ok but I think that’s avoiding the point.

What if everyone knew in her entourage knew except you and she tought you knew about it too? Once I learned was with a lesbian and everyone knew she was a lesbian except me. Yes she really was, it wasn’t a lie because she wasn’t interested in me, she gave me ‘‘a chance’’ anyway. It could happen.

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:
So some people here are saying that because she deceived you you should quit here. [/quote]

Well, I for one will openly admit I’m really turned off by a surgically constructed vagina that was a penis not that long ago.

COuple that with the turn off that is the emotional baggage that comes along with this life challenge, and I know I wouldn’t want to be, and couldn’t be in any sort of relationship with someone who has gone through this.

Call me any name you want, but in the end both of us would be better off if we had just stopped seeing each other.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

Absolutely. It’s definitely not ice-breaking material.[/quote]

Lot’s of different ways to handle this, but I think I’d approach it differently.

If I underwent the change, I’d tell potential dates straight up: “Look, just so you know, I underwent gender reassignment surgery some years ago. Lots of people don’t care, but I know it’s a deal breaker for some. If it’s a deal breaker for you, let’s just cancel our date now rather than waste each other’s time. What do you say?”

Not entirely the same thing, but when I started dating again after my divorce, I told the women I was dating that I had a vasectomy usually around the third date or a few days after sleeping together if it seemed that we were into each other. That put the kibosh on quite a few relationships, but if not then, then when?
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After spending a year trying to get pregnant of course. I mean, what’s the big deal?[/quote]

I think the moment when she proudly tells you that she is pregnant and it is DEFINITELY yours is really the best time to tell her.

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[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

Absolutely. It’s definitely not ice-breaking material.[/quote]

Lot’s of different ways to handle this, but I think I’d approach it differently.

If I underwent the change, I’d tell potential dates straight up: “Look, just so you know, I underwent gender reassignment surgery some years ago. Lots of people don’t care, but I know it’s a deal breaker for some. If it’s a deal breaker for you, let’s just cancel our date now rather than waste each other’s time. What do you say?”

Not entirely the same thing, but when I started dating again after my divorce, I told the women I was dating that I had a vasectomy usually around the third date or a few days after sleeping together if it seemed that we were into each other. That put the kibosh on quite a few relationships, but if not then, then when?
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Good points - and that’s probably the responsible way to handle it.

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I’m sorry but a sex change operation doesn’t make you by nature a woman or a man. It’d be for me, much less about the lie and more so about the fact that I’d be sticking my penis into a mutilated man.

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[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
I’m sorry but a sex change operation doesn’t make you by nature a woman or a man. It’d be for me, much less about the lie and more so about the fact that I’d be sticking my penis into a mutilated man. [/quote]

Before anyone calls him names for admitting this, answer a question:

Does not being attracted to a gay man make another man homophobic? No. So I don’t see how not being attracted to a transgender makes one a “bigot” of any nature.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

Absolutely. It’s definitely not ice-breaking material.[/quote]

Lot’s of different ways to handle this, but I think I’d approach it differently.

If I underwent the change, I’d tell potential dates straight up: “Look, just so you know, I underwent gender reassignment surgery some years ago. Lots of people don’t care, but I know it’s a deal breaker for some. If it’s a deal breaker for you, let’s just cancel our date now rather than waste each other’s time. What do you say?”

Not entirely the same thing, but when I started dating again after my divorce, I told the women I was dating that I had a vasectomy usually around the third date or a few days after sleeping together if it seemed that we were into each other. That put the kibosh on quite a few relationships, but if not then, then when?
[/quote]

After spending a year trying to get pregnant of course. I mean, what’s the big deal?[/quote]

I think the moment when she proudly tells you that she is pregnant and it is DEFINITELY yours is really the best time to tell her. [/quote]

Touche

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
I’m sorry but a sex change operation doesn’t make you by nature a woman or a man. It’d be for me, much less about the lie and more so about the fact that I’d be sticking my penis into a mutilated man. [/quote]

Before anyone calls him names for admitting this, answer a question:

Does not being attracted to a gay man make another man homophobic? No. So I don’t see how not being attracted to a transgender makes one a “bigot” of any nature. [/quote]

Naw, definitely not about him being gay. Maybe slightly, but the leading reason that would actually repulse me is the idea of me putting my member into a mutilate surgical orifice. A maw, if you will.

I would have nothing but compassion for that persons feelings and liberty , but as far as principles are concerned, it’s an abomination and a massacre to ones self and well being to take part in such things.

…But if it’s not hurting me then I don’t really care what they do.

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[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
I’m sorry but a sex change operation doesn’t make you by nature a woman or a man. It’d be for me, much less about the lie and more so about the fact that I’d be sticking my penis into a mutilated man. [/quote]

Before anyone calls him names for admitting this, answer a question:

Does not being attracted to a gay man make another man homophobic? No. So I don’t see how not being attracted to a transgender makes one a “bigot” of any nature. [/quote]

Naw, definitely not about him being gay. Maybe slightly, but the leading reason that would actually repulse me is the idea of me putting my member into a mutilate surgical orifice. A maw, if you will.

I would have nothing but compassion for that persons feelings and liberty , but as far as principles are concerned, it’s an abomination and a massacre to ones self and well being to take part in such things.

…But if it’s not hurting me then I don’t really care what they do.[/quote]

Yeah, we’re on the same page. I wasn’t intending to make this about whether or not the person you in particular were sleeping with is gay. I was trying to stop someone from calling you a trangenderist or something stupid of that nature.

I used the absurdity of thinking one person not being attracted to a homosexual member of their same sex could possibly be called a bigot, to stop someone from jumping on you for being honest, that transgender isn’t attractive to you.

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This has been an irrational fear of mine that started out as a seed and is now in full bloom.

Just remember Frankenstein vag or not, that’s still a man’s asshole your sticking your dick in.

In all seriousness though he/she should tell the other person right up front.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
I’m sorry but a sex change operation doesn’t make you by nature a woman or a man. It’d be for me, much less about the lie and more so about the fact that I’d be sticking my penis into a mutilated man. [/quote]

Before anyone calls him names for admitting this, answer a question:

Does not being attracted to a gay man make another man homophobic? No. So I don’t see how not being attracted to a transgender makes one a “bigot” of any nature. [/quote]

Naw, definitely not about him being gay. Maybe slightly, but the leading reason that would actually repulse me is the idea of me putting my member into a mutilate surgical orifice. A maw, if you will.

I would have nothing but compassion for that persons feelings and liberty , but as far as principles are concerned, it’s an abomination and a massacre to ones self and well being to take part in such things.

…But if it’s not hurting me then I don’t really care what they do.[/quote]

Yeah, we’re on the same page. I wasn’t intending to make this about whether or not the person you in particular were sleeping with is gay. I was trying to stop someone from calling you a trangenderist or something stupid of that nature.

I used the absurdity of thinking one person not being attracted to a homosexual member of their same sex could possibly be called a bigot, to stop someone from jumping on you for being honest, that transgender isn’t attractive to you. [/quote]

Word. Just wanted to make that same point clear myself I guess.

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Sure is a lot of hoopla over .00333 of the population (1/30,000), using the most generous of statistics. (The most reliable show 1/100,000.)

For example, in NYC (with a population of 8.5 million), that’s about 300 people.

It’s almost like there is an agenda that has nothing do to with the seriousness of the issue.

http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/prevalence.htm

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Sure is a lot of hoopla over .00333 of the population (1/30,000), using the most generous of statistics. (The most reliable show 1/100,000.)

For example, in NYC (with a population of 8.5 million), that’s about 300 people.

It’s almost like there is an agenda that has nothing do to with the seriousness of the issue.

http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/prevalence.htm[/quote]

According to a Pew Research Center Poll -

Even among LGBT adults, a relatively small share in our survey said they could relate to transgender people: Only 15% of gay men, 11% of lesbians and 12% of bisexuals said they share “a lot” of common concerns and identity with transgender adults.

Translation -

It’s not only very rare, but not well accepted even within the LGBT community. The vast majority of gay or lesbian people can’t relate either.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
I’m sorry but a sex change operation doesn’t make you by nature a woman or a man. It’d be for me, much less about the lie and more so about the fact that I’d be sticking my penis into a mutilated man. [/quote]

Before anyone calls him names for admitting this, answer a question:

Does not being attracted to a gay man make another man homophobic? No. So I don’t see how not being attracted to a transgender makes one a “bigot” of any nature. [/quote]

Naw, definitely not about him being gay. Maybe slightly, but the leading reason that would actually repulse me is the idea of me putting my member into a mutilate surgical orifice. A maw, if you will.

I would have nothing but compassion for that persons feelings and liberty , but as far as principles are concerned, it’s an abomination and a massacre to ones self and well being to take part in such things.

…But if it’s not hurting me then I don’t really care what they do.[/quote]

Yeah, we’re on the same page. I wasn’t intending to make this about whether or not the person you in particular were sleeping with is gay. I was trying to stop someone from calling you a trangenderist or something stupid of that nature.

I used the absurdity of thinking one person not being attracted to a homosexual member of their same sex could possibly be called a bigot, to stop someone from jumping on you for being honest, that transgender isn’t attractive to you. [/quote]

There is nothing at all wrong with not being attracted to a transgender person. Attraction is yours to be what it is and what you want it to be and political correctness has no part in it.

Personally I would not date or pursue a relationship with a transgender man. I would certainly end a relationship if I found out. I also think it’s one of those full disclosure first date things.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Sure is a lot of hoopla over .00333 of the population (1/30,000), using the most generous of statistics. (The most reliable show 1/100,000.)

http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/prevalence.htm[/quote]

Just to be clear
0.0033%
or
0.000033
So, yeah, a small fraction.

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Take whatever you see on Springer with more than a few grains of salt. Pretty snarky not to tell your SO if you had such surgery. But I’ve been engaged to women who have had other secrets that I eventually found out.

I know one lady that is a pre-op whatever you call them. She still has the outdoor plumbing but looks very passable until you get real close up. I know of one other guy (works for one of my vendors) who went the whole sex-change route to a female. Hey, if it makes them happy, good for them.

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Bill Burr’s thoughts on the matter:

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[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
I’m sorry but a sex change operation doesn’t make you by nature a woman or a man. It’d be for me, much less about the lie and more so about the fact that I’d be sticking my penis into a mutilated man. [/quote]

If you had anal sex with a female-to-male transgendered person, would you be gay? I mean, he’s really a woman…that dick you see dangling there is just an oversized clitoris.

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[quote]Renovator wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Sure is a lot of hoopla over .00333 of the population (1/30,000), using the most generous of statistics. (The most reliable show 1/100,000.)

http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/prevalence.htm[/quote]

Just to be clear
0.0033%
or
0.000033
So, yeah, a small fraction.
[/quote]

Yes, you are correct. Post often via iPhone and the “%” symbol is 3 menus down, so I whiffed it. 1/30,000.

Jews make up ~1.8 of the population of the USA (that is: 1.8/100 vs. 1/30,000), thus being 545.45% more likely to be encountered than a transsexual.

And yet, I don’t see demands for Kosher kitchens and eating areas in all public schools and places of public accommodation (and there should not be), like there are demands for “other” bathrooms.

In short, this hoopla has zero to do with anything rational.

It’s a distraction, and designedly so.