[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Sifu, you can’t possibly be reaching for info wars to support your position. That’s a crazy site and holds absolutely zero credibility.
But Yamato, you also have to remember that the violent crime statistics for this country are severely skewed by several hot spots. Take, for example, Detroit and South LA out of the stats and the rest of the country looks a shitload better. A few bad apples and all that. Bottom line is, though, that with over 300 million privately owned guns in this country the genie is not going back into the bottle any time soon. Nor should it, in my view. Then again that is beyond this thread.[/quote]
The last time he was here under a different name I posted a Un study that refuted his lies about GB being safer, and he refused to read it.
Expect no less now.
He’s willfully ignorant and dancing on the graves of school children to try and insult rather than actually speaking in facts.
Expect no more class than that. [/quote]
Do tell. I was just thinking I’ve had this conversation before. I was also wondering if this is one of the trolls the EU pays to troll forums and social media.
Do the parties vary in how they view this Motley Crue?
IN GENERAL…it seems like in the U.S…the general Public Loves the Monarchy, and seems to follow their every move, wedding, birth and mishap. (Heck…little George could probably win a Political Office if he was a citizen and old enough!)
But seriously…how to the parties view the Monarchy?
Mufasa[/quote]
Lots of people love them, elderly people get very angry if you even question the morality of forking out 300 million a year to keep in power the descendants of the people who terrorised and oppressed our ancestors.
More and more young people are questioning it but people either support them or see it as not a big issue in the grand scheme of things. People are also told the monarchy generates more money than it costs the taxpayer to pay for them, but this is because the figure the government gives out does not include taxpayer costs for their security, transport etc.
It comes to around 300 million a year.
I personally find the whole idea of monarchy archaic and disgusting but republicanism and constitutionalist sentiment are not as popular as i would like.
There is a section of the new athiest crowd inspired by the likes of Chris Hitchens who would like to see us create a constitution and a republic. I would imagine it would be somewhat different to the yours. It would be tricky convincing British people that we should have the right to bare arms. I have never met a single person who thinks guns should be legal to own. I do and I am sure some republicans here do but it is hard to argue that our society is not much safer since we introduced gun control.
I would argue our freedom and rights to be armed in case of tyrannical government may outweigh the violence but the vast majority would say no. The main position would be I am more scared of some nutter killing my kids in a school than the non looming thread of a dictatorship. Plus because of gun criminalisation guns on the black market are extremely expensive. A semi automatic rifle on the black market here is tens of thousands of pounds. Which means even our gang members mostly don’t have access to guns and even the ones who do have pistols and the like and armed police have mp5’s.
It is the old security v liberty debate and honestly most British people are firmly on the security side.
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It’s a big money maker with the tourists is one argument in favor but there are other reasons why getting rid of the monarchy is a non starter. The number one reason is it is a huge distraction from the operation of the government. ie Is it really just a coincidence that there was a new Royal born just a week before the general election?
Next problem in getting rid of them is there is a whole power structure over there that has evolved over centuries based upon the system of honours, titles and being brought into that system. So even though the monarchy has no authority it still wields a lot of power through that system.
For example if you are a business supplying a product to Buckingham palace you can qualify for what is known as a Royal Warrant of Appointment. ie Cadburys chocolate and Twinings tea have warrants so they are allowed to print the royal warrant on their product label. It’s like the Anglican equivalent of a Kosher stamp. This is very prestigious and good for business if you can get one.
If you have a title or honour of some sort it is the Kingdom’s E ticket into the Old Boy network. So it is very beneficial to be in that system and those who are in that system have a lot invested in getting into it and a lot to lose if it is abolished.
The right to keep and bear arms is the most important of all the rights granted by the Bill of Rights. Without that right the Bill of Rights is just a meaningless piece of parchment. But the people over there have been brain washed to believe that they can’t be trusted.
The British are so brainwashed they think Britain is safer than the US because less people are shot every year. But if you ever consider the overall total of violent crime, Britain is far more dangerous dangerous than the US. Compared to Americans the British are much more willing to resort to violence and their willingness to escalate the level of violence is much higher.
A good example of the brain washing is the mistaken belief that one is more likely to die in a school shooting than they are ever going to have the need to defend themselves. The reality in the US is law abiding citizens use firearms to defend themselves every day in multiple incidents, many of which never even get reported.
The threat of dictatorship is very real. Just across the English channel in France they are now living under martial law and the same conditions and circumstances are in play in Britain.
It isn’t that difficult to get ahold of an illegal gun in Britain. One common source is to travel to Prague, buy them there and bring them back.
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Britain is not more violent than the U.S. This is pure fantasy. I will agree those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither, but you are pretending gun control limits safety and security. There is a reason most are pro gun control and that is the massive drop in crime in all nations that have established strict gun control.
There is a reason that since gun control in the UK and Australia we have seen no mass shootings in either, where as we had prominent ones right before the new legislation was brought in. Lying about the fact gun control reduces danger is deceitful. If it didn’t people wouldn’t support it and the crime rate wouldn’t of magically dropped right afterwards.
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Yes it is more violent. There may be less shootings, but every other category of violent crime, assault, rape, home invasion, stabbings is much higher. One category of crime that is rare here is “glassing” every year in Britain there are over 5,000 glassing victims. That is over a hundred per week for a country that is one fifth of the US population.
For a Yank who is not prepared for British glassing culture Britain and Australia are especially dangerous.
This young college student had only been in London for three days before he was glassed by the sharia patrol in a muslim no go zone, something which you falsely claimed does not exist…
There was an American judge on the Australian X factor who was glassed in Sydney.
Pictures have emerged of American pop star Redfoo being smashed in the head by a glass bottle and hotel security guards trying to restrain the bleeding singer.
Police charged a 21-year-old man over the attack on the American music star at the Golden Sheaf Hotel in Double Bay in Sydney’s inner east around 12:45am on Thursday morning.
The X Factor judge said he was dancing with some girls in the roped-off VIP section of the pub when a ‘dodgy’ guy threw a glass, cutting him on the head.
‘It was shocking to me, when something like that happens,’ Redfoo, 38, told Daily Mail Australia. ‘There was quite a bit of blood.’
I’m not lying at all. I can back up what I am saying about the US with the FBI uniform crime report. Violent crime in the US has been going down every year for about twenty years with substantial reduction seen in states that have gone to shall issue concealed weapons permits. If anyone is lying it is you, because in Britain there is no comparable reliable study of crime to compare to. The statistics there are produced by the government in power and therefore are open to politically motivated massaging.
Preliminary figures indicate that law enforcement agencies throughout the nation showed an overall decrease of 4.6 percent in the number of violent crimes brought to their attention for the first 6 months of 2014 when compared with figures reported for the same time in 2013. The violent crime category includes murder, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The number of property crimes in the United States from January to June of 2014 decreased 7.5 percent when compared with data for the same time period in 2013.
Last but not least here is Max Velocity backing up what I wrote about the UK being more violent.
“Piers Morgan’s attack on the second amendment doesn’t reflect the views of all English citizens. Reporter David Ortiz speaks with former British & American Soldier Max Velocity on this issue.”
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Did you just post an info wars conspiracy Alex Jones video to back you argument?
The last shred of credibility just plummeted to the ground like a fucking meteorite Was 9/11 an inside job and is the Illuminati running the world? Because that is the entire world view of the people in the video you posted.
The Muslim patrols were a group of like 60 Muslims associated with Anjem Choudry who would harass and assault, most of the time verbally, passers by who were gay, drinking etc. Most of these gobshites are now in prison and they don’t dare venture outside their own tiny community.
A couple of retards who are mostly off the streets now are no threat to the state or public in any meaningful way. They have not killed anyone, they control nothing, they have no power and no support. It is far safer for me to walk pass the Muslim Patrol fisting my boyfriend than it is for a white boy to venture through compton. Stop imagining some grand conspiracy where muslims control the UK, it does not exist apart from inside your head.
And you are comparing someone getting hit by a bottle to people being killed by guns and claiming the one where people get glassed is more dangerous. It is dumb. The randomness of someone walking into a school and pumping 5 rounds through little sally field’s skull and a bloke who during a fight bottles someone is not comparable. The damage is not comparable.
Stop pretending America is safer than the UK. You have more freedom, you have better weather, you have cooler shit but you are most definitely not safer or less likely to be affected by crime.[/quote]
The ex British soldier in the video is not Alex Jones. I believe him because what he is saying matches my experiences from when I have lived on the other side. East London on a Friday or Saturday night can be quite dodgey.
The sharia patrols are the tip of the iceberg of a much larger problem that instead of being reduced is being expanded through mass immigration.
There is a reason why the British and Australians are so willing to escalate violence to the point of smashing a bottle and jamming it in someones face while Americans aren’t. Over here it would be asking to get shot pulling some shit like that or you could be looking at a lengthy jail sentence.
Yes we are less likely to be affected by crime. My old neighborhood in the suburbs of Detroit was very safe, with very low crime. It was nothing like the city.
Do tell. I was just thinking I’ve had this conversation before. I was also wondering if this is one of the trolls the EU pays to troll forums and social media. [/quote]
Oh yes. He must be a troll because he disagrees with you and his experiences and analysis are not the same as yours.
/sarcasm
I don’t get the troll vibe. Never have, and he certainly doesn’t sound like any past troll members. Generally, he is very well spoken. So people disagree and get stubborn, that doesn’t sound like real life or anything.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Sifu, you can’t possibly be reaching for info wars to support your position. That’s a crazy site and holds absolutely zero credibility.
But Yamato, you also have to remember that the violent crime statistics for this country are severely skewed by several hot spots. Take, for example, Detroit and South LA out of the stats and the rest of the country looks a shitload better. A few bad apples and all that. Bottom line is, though, that with over 300 million privately owned guns in this country the genie is not going back into the bottle any time soon. Nor should it, in my view. Then again that is beyond this thread.[/quote]
The last time he was here under a different name I posted a Un study that refuted his lies about GB being safer, and he refused to read it.
Expect no less now.
He’s willfully ignorant and dancing on the graves of school children to try and insult rather than actually speaking in facts.
Expect no more class than that. [/quote]
Do tell. I was just thinking I’ve had this conversation before. I was also wondering if this is one of the trolls the EU pays to troll forums and social media. [/quote]
I wouldn’t be surprised if he is astro-turf at all.
The last iteration of him I remember was arguing for communism and using some Spanish Town during a war trying to say it would work on a grand scale I believe. He gets a little bit less and less leftist with each new screen name but resorts back to the same “you’re da racist” bullshit every time he gets cornered among other tells.
Do tell. I was just thinking I’ve had this conversation before. I was also wondering if this is one of the trolls the EU pays to troll forums and social media. [/quote]
Oh yes. He must be a troll because he disagrees with you and his experiences and analysis are not the same as yours.
/sarcasm
I don’t get the troll vibe. Never have, and he certainly doesn’t sound like any past troll members. Generally, he is very well spoken. So people disagree and get stubborn, that doesn’t sound like real life or anything.[/quote]
Read his posts, and then re-read the last 12-20 or so pages of the “Jordan 2, ISIS/L - 1” thread.
It’s the same person, or people from the same place using the same talking points and argument methods.
And I know you didn’t just say someone that has evoked Sandy Hook and danced on the grave of school children multiple times in this thread well spoken. You missing your coffee today?
Now…this may be wrong…but the first thought I had when you talked about gun control in the UK was that with more and more segments of the UK accepting Sharia Law…and more and more segments becoming more and more radicalized…maybe it’s NOT a bad idea to have some control over the flow of weapons.
(In the U.S.; as you alluded to; this thought would be absolute treason…)
Mufasa[/quote]
The muslims who are pushing Sharia are such a small minority even if they were armed we would smash them embarassingly quickly. I would be more worried about either far left or far right people getting their hands on guns. Both pro dictatorship, both not scared to use violence and and both possibly able to gain mass support in times of economic turbulence.
Then again hopefully enough rational people would have enough guns to do something about them
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Touche…!
I guess I revealed a bias fueled by the media.
If you listen to the media; one gets the impression that the UK (London in particular) is becoming “Tehran West”.
Mufasa
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There are areas dominated by Muslim immigrants but the talk of no go zones etc is a fairytale, like that guy who claimed it on fox news then had to retract it and admit he was misinformed.
That said Muslim refusal to assimilate to our culture is worrying. The fact Rotherham council and police refused to investigate Muslim grooming gangs because they were worried about being called racist is also fucking terrifying.
The islamification of Britain scaremongering is ridiculous but there are truths to the overall prospering of islamism within our borders.
In the 80’s and 90’s openly racist skinheads etc would beat and harass the Muslim community and attacks and general racism against them turned them inwards, a community that in the 60’s and 70’s was all about working hard and making the best of yourself, assimilating by going to regular schools and adopting football teams changed to going to Muslim schools, going to Muslim businesses, only conversing with other Muslims.
I am currently reading a book called Radical by Maajid Nawaz and he explains this process very well. However with access to the internet and the dropping levels of racism I think we will see the assimilation of the Islamic community within the nest 2 decades.
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When the vast majority of them were new immigrants they may have felt a need to assimilate because they weren’t born there. The problem is the next generation, the ones were born there, do not feel the need to assimilate because they were born there. You cannot fix that.
The belief that they are going to somehow, someday, assimilate to become like the British is not only completely delusional it is suicidal. You need to go spend some time down in a city center on a Friday or Saturday night and see what a wild bunch of out of control drunken whore mongers and drunken whores the British youth are.
There is no way in hell you are going to get the vast majority of muslims to behave like that they find that kind of behavior abhorrent.
Holy shit can you imagine if someone on the boards did this about the American people. Whore mongers and whores, guess thats why we are so happy and don’t need to go and shoot 8 year olds in schools
Hates immigration
Hates the English
Hates gun control
Good guy
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Eight year old’s in school, are you serious? If you want to compare violence against children answer this. In Britain how many pre-pubescent girls will be genitally mutilated this year? How many adolescent British girls will go on summer vacation to another country and just not come back?
How about Rotherham where over 1400 girls were systematically raped and trafficked into prostitution? How about the sentences? If those predators were in the US they would put them under the jail for what they did.
Name[18] Conviction Sentence
Zafran Ramzan rape, 2 charges of sexual activity with a child 9 years
Razwan Razaq 2 charges of sexual activity with a child 11 years
Umar Razaq sexual activity with a child 4.5 years
Adil Hussain sexual activity with a child 4 years
Mohsin Khan sexual activity with a child 4 years
I don’t hate immigration. But I am opposed to it being weaponized and used against people in order to undermine liberty.
I don’t hate the English, my favorite relatives are English. I would say ashamed of is a better description. They are a people who have lost their way. That is why they cannot get the muslims to assimilate.
Gun control is a misnomer. It really should be called people control.
I am a good guy, the people who know me value my friendship. [/quote]
What are you talking about, are you aware of your nations rates of rape and child abuse and those of mine? You are delusional. Also We don’t generally cut out little boys cocks up here (8.5%). I don’t think it is ok to cut anyones genitals. Let them make up their own mind when they are adults. But then no one would do it would they.
as for not being able to get people to assimilate, you have little Havana, Little Italy, you have communities of Mexicans and Poles who don’t even speak English. You come off as a moron when you talk waffle.
Also was 9/11 an inside job? You used links from 9/11 truthers who think the Illuminati control the planet. Why do you think they are credible sources?[/quote]
There are no accurate crime statistics to compare to. ie The British Crime Survey is a joke compared to the methodology used by the FBI.
You obviously haven’t been following my posts here. Because I have made it very clear that I believe regular use of soap and water is a much better solution to personal hygiene than amputating a functional body part just so someone can be nasty and not clean themself. I think circumcision is highly immoral to do to another person as part of ones own religious practices, it is denying them the choice to make their own offering is they so choose.
I lived in the Poletown neighborhood for a while. If I needed something fixed on the house those Pollocks do nice work for a good price. We had a lot of Arabs living there so I am under no romantic illusions of what they are like.
The BNP are more leftist, socialist. The other thing to consider is the BNP have been around a lot longer and have weathered the storm. The government is well versed in infiltrating political organizations with it’s own agents. So you really have to be suspicious of any of the nationalist parties. Nick Griffin wrote an excellent article on the subject that is well worth reading. [/quote]
LOL
Yeah the man who denied the holocaust and wrote books claiming the bolshevist jews who are also finance capitaists rule the world and has claimed he wants forced expatriation of anyone of colour despite being born here is actually a left winger. This must be a wind up because you can’t be this ignorant.
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I’ve heard all the nasty things about Nick Griffin ad nauseum. The odd thing about Nick Griffin is although he may be an asshole he is still one of the most genuine people in British politics today.
I think it is very hypocritical to complain about some things he has said or written about Jews in the past and make no mention of what the political parties in power are doing to them today.
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What on earth are you talking about. Does your conspiracy theory rambling ever stop? Do you ever have a moment of realisation?
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The BNP has ZERO members of parliament and therefore no authority to make decisions for the UK. It is the Labour and Tory parties who have been calling the shots. One of their decisions has been to flood the country with muslims knowing full well that muslims hate Jews like nobody else.
The result of this policy has been increasing violence against Jews in Britain and all across Europe. It has gotten so bad over there that the Jews can’t get together to celebrate a little girls Bat Mitzvah without having to hire security guards. This is a serious financial burden on the Jewish community and is a result of the gun control laws.
Do tell. I was just thinking I’ve had this conversation before. I was also wondering if this is one of the trolls the EU pays to troll forums and social media. [/quote]
Oh yes. He must be a troll because he disagrees with you and his experiences and analysis are not the same as yours.
/sarcasm
I don’t get the troll vibe. Never have, and he certainly doesn’t sound like any past troll members. Generally, he is very well spoken. So people disagree and get stubborn, that doesn’t sound like real life or anything.[/quote]
He claims to love America yet advocates the European elitist ideology, changes identity to try and convince us he’s someone different and denies information from credible sources such as the FBI. Yeah he’s a troll.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Sifu, you can’t possibly be reaching for info wars to support your position. That’s a crazy site and holds absolutely zero credibility.
But Yamato, you also have to remember that the violent crime statistics for this country are severely skewed by several hot spots. Take, for example, Detroit and South LA out of the stats and the rest of the country looks a shitload better. A few bad apples and all that. Bottom line is, though, that with over 300 million privately owned guns in this country the genie is not going back into the bottle any time soon. Nor should it, in my view. Then again that is beyond this thread.[/quote]
The last time he was here under a different name I posted a Un study that refuted his lies about GB being safer, and he refused to read it.
Expect no less now.
He’s willfully ignorant and dancing on the graves of school children to try and insult rather than actually speaking in facts.
Expect no more class than that. [/quote]
Do tell. I was just thinking I’ve had this conversation before. I was also wondering if this is one of the trolls the EU pays to troll forums and social media. [/quote]
I wouldn’t be surprised if he is astro-turf at all.
The last iteration of him I remember was arguing for communism and using some Spanish Town during a war trying to say it would work on a grand scale I believe. He gets a little bit less and less leftist with each new screen name but resorts back to the same “you’re da racist” bullshit every time he gets cornered among other tells.
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What are you waffling on about? I don’t have any other user accounts on here and I don’t argue that the UK has no crimes that are more prevalent here than in the U.S. It is just that for almost every crime the U.S per capita is far more dangerous.
As the other user pointed out the U.S’s crime statistics are skewed by hot spots like Detroit, Chicago etc where gun and gang violence make up a large part of the gun murders and woundings every year. However the same thing is true in the UK.
Parts of Glasgow, Manchester, London make up the majority of muggings and assaults. These are hotspots too. If you look with an honest perspective all countries statistics are tinged with such things.
A simple look at the official statistics will show you the reality of violent crime in the UK vs the US.
For the UK.
You are thus 35.2x (3.17 / 0.09) more likely to be shot dead in the US than in the UK.
You are thus 1.02x (26.7 / 26) more likely to be raped as a female in the US than in the UK.
You are thus 6.9x (241.05 / 34.7) more likely to suffer aggravated assault in the US than in the UK.
You are thus 1.29x (229.5 / 176.9) more likely to suffer theft of a vehicle in the US than in the UK.
You are thus 4.03x (4.6 / 1.14) more likely to be murdered in the US than in the UK.
You are thus 1.52x (702.1 / 460.1) more likely to suffer burglary in the US than in the UK
For the U.S.
You are thus 1.27x (58.3 / 45.8) more likely to be knifed in the UK than in the US.
You are thus 1.1x (135.7 / 113.7) more likely to suffer robbery in the UK than in the US.
If you want to pretend the UK is anywhere near as dangerous as the U.S go ahead. But it is fucking moronic.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
See, continues to ignore the UN study in favor of blog post.
Lmao. What a fucking joke of a poster. [/quote]
Are you retarded? The U.N study you linked says what I just said, knifings and robbery is slightly higher than in the U.S. What about every single other crime I just listed? You are being a pleb. You don’t even acknowledge those crimes.
The U.S has higher rates of rape, murder, murder by gun, burglary, agg assault etc etc etc etc etc etc. Get it? How is the U.K more dangerous?
[i] The results of the ICVS 2005 show that on average 15.7% of citizens
suffered at least one form of victimisation in the year preceding the
interview. Of people who lived in main cities 21.7% was victimised. The
countries with the highest prevalence rates for conventional crime are
Ireland, England & Wales, New Zealand and Iceland.
Contrary to common
perception, overall rates of volume crime ? such as burglary, robbery
and assault & threats ? are not higher in the USA than in most parts of
Western Europe. In fact USA rates are significantly lower than those of,
for example, Ireland and England & Wales. Robberies and attacks in the
USA are more often gun-related than in Europe though. The overall rates
of Canada and Australia are somewhat below the mean of the European
Union and in the same range as those of the USA.
Switzerland, although
much less so than in the first rounds of the ICVS, still emerges as a country
with comparatively low victimisation rates. Countries with the lowest
rates form a fairly mixed group with a strong representation of Southern
and Eastern Europe besides Japan and Hong Kong.[/i]
But you know, crime apparently isn’t crime unless you do it with a gun. Lmao.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Calls me retarded, conclusion of UN study I just copied and pasted refutes his entire point. [/quote]
Are you actually this dense or are you just denying because to go back now makes you look foolish?
The statistics in the post above are based on the official statistics provided by the sources shown in the screenshot.
What grand conspiracy are the UK police forces and FBI colluding in to spread the lie that the U.S is far more dangerous than the U.K? If you refuse to accept the official statistics of both nations from the official sources then what else can anyone say?
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Sifu, you can’t possibly be reaching for info wars to support your position. That’s a crazy site and holds absolutely zero credibility.
But Yamato, you also have to remember that the violent crime statistics for this country are severely skewed by several hot spots. Take, for example, Detroit and South LA out of the stats and the rest of the country looks a shitload better. A few bad apples and all that. Bottom line is, though, that with over 300 million privately owned guns in this country the genie is not going back into the bottle any time soon. Nor should it, in my view. Then again that is beyond this thread.[/quote]
The last time he was here under a different name I posted a Un study that refuted his lies about GB being safer, and he refused to read it.
Expect no less now.
He’s willfully ignorant and dancing on the graves of school children to try and insult rather than actually speaking in facts.
Expect no more class than that. [/quote]
Do tell. I was just thinking I’ve had this conversation before. I was also wondering if this is one of the trolls the EU pays to troll forums and social media. [/quote]
I wouldn’t be surprised if he is astro-turf at all.
The last iteration of him I remember was arguing for communism and using some Spanish Town during a war trying to say it would work on a grand scale I believe. He gets a little bit less and less leftist with each new screen name but resorts back to the same “you’re da racist” bullshit every time he gets cornered among other tells.
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I thought that was Headhunter. Huh. I just tune these things out.
Do tell. I was just thinking I’ve had this conversation before. I was also wondering if this is one of the trolls the EU pays to troll forums and social media. [/quote]
Oh yes. He must be a troll because he disagrees with you and his experiences and analysis are not the same as yours.
/sarcasm
I don’t get the troll vibe. Never have, and he certainly doesn’t sound like any past troll members. Generally, he is very well spoken. So people disagree and get stubborn, that doesn’t sound like real life or anything.[/quote]
Read his posts, and then re-read the last 12-20 or so pages of the “Jordan 2, ISIS/L - 1” thread.
It’s the same person, or people from the same place using the same talking points and argument methods.
And I know you didn’t just say someone that has evoked Sandy Hook and danced on the grave of school children multiple times in this thread well spoken. You missing your coffee today?[/quote]
I stopped reading that thread well before it even got close to finishing. I never saw the posts you referred to in that thread. Maybe I’m just not reading very carefully any more, but outside of this thread he’s appeared more civilized. Besides, I’m used to people losing their minds over gun control…it happens with so much regularity I usually tune out the conversation until I reach critical overload.
Yes I have missed my coffee. In fact yesterday I almost hit a light pole on my way home for lunch. That turned into a 2 hour nap. That didn’t help lol.
But come on. Sifu referenced infowars. I mean I expect that sort of nonsense from Zeppelin.
Do tell. I was just thinking I’ve had this conversation before. I was also wondering if this is one of the trolls the EU pays to troll forums and social media. [/quote]
Oh yes. He must be a troll because he disagrees with you and his experiences and analysis are not the same as yours.
/sarcasm
I don’t get the troll vibe. Never have, and he certainly doesn’t sound like any past troll members. Generally, he is very well spoken. So people disagree and get stubborn, that doesn’t sound like real life or anything.[/quote]
He claims to love America yet advocates the European elitist ideology, changes identity to try and convince us he’s someone different and denies information from credible sources such as the FBI. Yeah he’s a troll. [/quote]
I’m not defending him or his misinformed position. But surely you know a bunch of people that legitimately think highly of themselves as patriots and yet spout the same nonsense. We call them liberals most of the time. Poor misguided souls. But that doesn’t mean they don’t love America, it just means we think their positions are bunk. As for the changing identity I never looked that closely, as I just told beans above.
The rates of victimization for violent crime are lower in the US. This is true.
Do tell. I was just thinking I’ve had this conversation before. I was also wondering if this is one of the trolls the EU pays to troll forums and social media. [/quote]
Oh yes. He must be a troll because he disagrees with you and his experiences and analysis are not the same as yours.
/sarcasm
I don’t get the troll vibe. Never have, and he certainly doesn’t sound like any past troll members. Generally, he is very well spoken. So people disagree and get stubborn, that doesn’t sound like real life or anything.[/quote]
He claims to love America yet advocates the European elitist ideology, changes identity to try and convince us he’s someone different and denies information from credible sources such as the FBI. Yeah he’s a troll. [/quote]
I’m not defending him or his misinformed position. But surely you know a bunch of people that legitimately think highly of themselves as patriots and yet spout the same nonsense. We call them liberals most of the time. Poor misguided souls. But that doesn’t mean they don’t love America, it just means we think their positions are bunk. As for the changing identity I never looked that closely, as I just told beans above.
The rates of victimization for violent crime are lower in the US. This is true.[/quote]
Then why do the official FBI statistics only have lower rates of violent crime for robbery and knife crime than the UK? Everything else is higher. Far higher. This isn’t debatable, this is a direct comparison of official U.S statistics and U.K statistics.
I cited all sources from the British/U.K government and the American government and the relating authorities. How is this up for debate?
Was 9/11 an inside job and is the Illuminati running the world? Because that is the entire world view of the people in the video you posted.
