The BNP are more leftist, socialist. The other thing to consider is the BNP have been around a lot longer and have weathered the storm. The government is well versed in infiltrating political organizations with it’s own agents. So you really have to be suspicious of any of the nationalist parties. Nick Griffin wrote an excellent article on the subject that is well worth reading.
The BNP are more leftist, socialist. The other thing to consider is the BNP have been around a lot longer and have weathered the storm. The government is well versed in infiltrating political organizations with it’s own agents. So you really have to be suspicious of any of the nationalist parties. Nick Griffin wrote an excellent article on the subject that is well worth reading. [/quote]
LOL
Yeah the man who denied the holocaust and wrote books claiming the bolshevist jews who are also finance capitaists rule the world and has claimed he wants forced expatriation of anyone of colour despite being born here is actually a left winger. This must be a wind up because you can’t be this ignorant.
Their manifesto makes no mention of the right to keep and bear arms, which is the single biggest issue affecting all the other rights. So it’s a joke to call them liberty.
They want proportional representation, something which sounds good on paper but in practice is a clusterfuck. With proportional representation you end up with a lot of the small fringe parties getting a seat at the expense of the larger mainstream parties.
This results in elections where none of the major parties are able to from a majority government, so they then have to start making deals with all the small lunatic fringe parties to form a coalition government. Then in order to hold the coalition together they have to start making concessions to the small parties that result in laws and policies that the vast majority of people do not want.[/quote]
I don’t support Liberty GB, if you had read the posts rather than storming in to talk about gun control you would of read that.
The conservatives won a majority, no coalition, if you had read this thread you would of known that.
Please read before you post. Post responsibly.[/quote]
I didn’t suggest you did support them. I was simply offering up my own analysis. If you had read this post you would have known that.
I made no reference to this weeks election. I know the Tory’s don’t need to enter a coalition this time. Again if you had read this post you would have known that. I have some friends who are German and they explained the pitfalls of proportional representation to me because they have it there.
Their manifesto makes no mention of the right to keep and bear arms, which is the single biggest issue affecting all the other rights. So it’s a joke to call them liberty.
They want proportional representation, something which sounds good on paper but in practice is a clusterfuck. With proportional representation you end up with a lot of the small fringe parties getting a seat at the expense of the larger mainstream parties.
This results in elections where none of the major parties are able to from a majority government, so they then have to start making deals with all the small lunatic fringe parties to form a coalition government. Then in order to hold the coalition together they have to start making concessions to the small parties that result in laws and policies that the vast majority of people do not want.[/quote]
Any political party that calls its charter a “manifesto” is clearly from the fruit loop fringe. [/quote]
In the UK it is standard practice for political parties to issue an election manifesto. But you are correct, they are fruit loops over there.
Hey dude even though we have different politics I do enjoy your posts on here.
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Thanks mate, I appreciate that particularly as a compliment from someone who disagrees with you is worth more than being circle jerked by like-minded folk.
This one has been discussed at length on PWI. My answer is that there is no ideal form really because it depends on other factors. An ideal form of government is the one most suited to the people, the culture and times. Monarchy was best for Sparta and democracy for Athens. Libertarianism is best for a self reliant, dutiful, civic minded people and more intrusive forms become necessary for numerous reasons - eg, The Civil War necessitated a more powerful federal government and 911 made necessary more intrusive security and so on.
That’s because I’ve decided to stop talking politics. In fact, I’ve pretty much decided to become apolitical in so far as it’s possible. I’m going cold turkey after being a political junkie for over 15 years. It always get me into trouble anyway. I used to hate the advice not to talk religion or politics but now it’s my motto. But that doesn’t answer your question does it? Okay, I’m a nationalist to put it simply. An old school right-winger. But I won’t be talking about that anymore.
I live in Australia. Who I vote for in local, state and federal elections depends upon many factors such as if they have any chance of actually winning the seat. I may decide not to vote for someone purely because if they lose they’ll give my vote to someone I don’t want elected under the preferences system. But to put it simply I try to ensure Labor and Greens don’t get elected and I try to elect conservatives. I like Fred Nile’s Christian Democrats and Family First. I also liked the platform of the now defunct One Nation but their leader and most the candidates they fronted were idiots who sabotaged themselves.
But you’re asking about the UK elections and I can’t say for sure because it would likewise depend on many factors but to give a simple answer probably UKIP.
Okay, I’m done talking politics. I really, really don’t want to even think about politics anymore.
Their manifesto makes no mention of the right to keep and bear arms, which is the single biggest issue affecting all the other rights. So it’s a joke to call them liberty.
They want proportional representation, something which sounds good on paper but in practice is a clusterfuck. With proportional representation you end up with a lot of the small fringe parties getting a seat at the expense of the larger mainstream parties.
This results in elections where none of the major parties are able to from a majority government, so they then have to start making deals with all the small lunatic fringe parties to form a coalition government. Then in order to hold the coalition together they have to start making concessions to the small parties that result in laws and policies that the vast majority of people do not want.[/quote]
Any political party that calls its charter a “manifesto” is clearly from the fruit loop fringe. [/quote]
In the UK it is standard practice for political parties to issue an election manifesto. But you are correct, they are fruit loops over there. [/quote]
Yes, that’s right I’d forgotten about that. In the rest of the world manifesto = crazy.
Hey dude even though we have different politics I do enjoy your posts on here.
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Thanks mate, I appreciate that particularly as a compliment from someone who disagrees with you is worth more than being circle jerked by like-minded folk.
This one has been discussed at length on PWI. My answer is that there is no ideal form really because it depends on other factors. An ideal form of government is the one most suited to the people, the culture and times. Monarchy was best for Sparta and democracy for Athens. Libertarianism is best for a self reliant, dutiful, civic minded people and more intrusive forms become necessary for numerous reasons - eg, The Civil War necessitated a more powerful federal government and 911 made necessary more intrusive security and so on.
That’s because I’ve decided to stop talking politics. In fact, I’ve pretty much decided to become apolitical in so far as it’s possible. I’m going cold turkey after being a political junkie for over 15 years. It always get me into trouble anyway. I used to hate the advice not to talk religion or politics but now it’s my motto. But that doesn’t answer your question does it? Okay, I’m a nationalist to put it simply. An old school right-winger. But I won’t be talking about that anymore.
I live in Australia. Who I vote for in local, state and federal elections depends upon many factors such as if they have any chance of actually winning the seat. I may decide not to vote for someone purely because if they lose they’ll give my vote to someone I don’t want elected under the preferences system. But to put it simply I try to ensure Labor and Greens don’t get elected and I try to elect conservatives. I like Fred Nile’s Christian Democrats and Family First. I also liked the platform of the now defunct One Nation but their leader and most the candidates they fronted were idiots who sabotaged themselves.
But you’re asking about the UK elections and I can’t say for sure because it would likewise depend on many factors but to give a simple answer probably UKIP.
Okay, I’m done talking politics. I really, really don’t want to even think about politics anymore.
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Ha ha fair enough dude. Thanks for the reply. I am somewhat similar in that I just can’t even talk politics with friends or relatives because someone always ends up upset with someone else and it never ends in one person changing the other persons mind.
Just channel your focus into something else like drinking beer, playing cricket or shagging tourists. You will probably find it more rewarding
Do the parties vary in how they view this Motley Crue?
IN GENERAL…it seems like in the U.S…the general Public Loves the Monarchy, and seems to follow their every move, wedding, birth and mishap. (Heck…little George could probably win a Political Office if he was a citizen and old enough!)
But seriously…how to the parties view the Monarchy?
Mufasa[/quote]
Lots of people love them, elderly people get very angry if you even question the morality of forking out 300 million a year to keep in power the descendants of the people who terrorised and oppressed our ancestors.
More and more young people are questioning it but people either support them or see it as not a big issue in the grand scheme of things. People are also told the monarchy generates more money than it costs the taxpayer to pay for them, but this is because the figure the government gives out does not include taxpayer costs for their security, transport etc.
It comes to around 300 million a year.
I personally find the whole idea of monarchy archaic and disgusting but republicanism and constitutionalist sentiment are not as popular as i would like.
There is a section of the new athiest crowd inspired by the likes of Chris Hitchens who would like to see us create a constitution and a republic. I would imagine it would be somewhat different to the yours. It would be tricky convincing British people that we should have the right to bare arms. I have never met a single person who thinks guns should be legal to own. I do and I am sure some republicans here do but it is hard to argue that our society is not much safer since we introduced gun control.
I would argue our freedom and rights to be armed in case of tyrannical government may outweigh the violence but the vast majority would say no. The main position would be I am more scared of some nutter killing my kids in a school than the non looming thread of a dictatorship. Plus because of gun criminalisation guns on the black market are extremely expensive. A semi automatic rifle on the black market here is tens of thousands of pounds. Which means even our gang members mostly don’t have access to guns and even the ones who do have pistols and the like and armed police have mp5’s.
It is the old security v liberty debate and honestly most British people are firmly on the security side.
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It’s a big money maker with the tourists is one argument in favor but there are other reasons why getting rid of the monarchy is a non starter. The number one reason is it is a huge distraction from the operation of the government. ie Is it really just a coincidence that there was a new Royal born just a week before the general election?
Next problem in getting rid of them is there is a whole power structure over there that has evolved over centuries based upon the system of honours, titles and being brought into that system. So even though the monarchy has no authority it still wields a lot of power through that system.
For example if you are a business supplying a product to Buckingham palace you can qualify for what is known as a Royal Warrant of Appointment. ie Cadburys chocolate and Twinings tea have warrants so they are allowed to print the royal warrant on their product label. It’s like the Anglican equivalent of a Kosher stamp. This is very prestigious and good for business if you can get one.
If you have a title or honour of some sort it is the Kingdom’s E ticket into the Old Boy network. So it is very beneficial to be in that system and those who are in that system have a lot invested in getting into it and a lot to lose if it is abolished.
The right to keep and bear arms is the most important of all the rights granted by the Bill of Rights. Without that right the Bill of Rights is just a meaningless piece of parchment. But the people over there have been brain washed to believe that they can’t be trusted.
The British are so brainwashed they think Britain is safer than the US because less people are shot every year. But if you ever consider the overall total of violent crime, Britain is far more dangerous dangerous than the US. Compared to Americans the British are much more willing to resort to violence and their willingness to escalate the level of violence is much higher.
A good example of the brain washing is the mistaken belief that one is more likely to die in a school shooting than they are ever going to have the need to defend themselves. The reality in the US is law abiding citizens use firearms to defend themselves every day in multiple incidents, many of which never even get reported.
The threat of dictatorship is very real. Just across the English channel in France they are now living under martial law and the same conditions and circumstances are in play in Britain.
It isn’t that difficult to get ahold of an illegal gun in Britain. One common source is to travel to Prague, buy them there and bring them back.
�¢??They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.�¢??
Ben Franklin[/quote]
Britain is not more violent than the U.S. This is pure fantasy. I will agree those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither, but you are pretending gun control limits safety and security. There is a reason most are pro gun control and that is the massive drop in crime in all nations that have established strict gun control.
There is a reason that since gun control in the UK and Australia we have seen no mass shootings in either, where as we had prominent ones right before the new legislation was brought in. Lying about the fact gun control reduces danger is deceitful. If it didn’t people wouldn’t support it and the crime rate wouldn’t of magically dropped right afterwards.
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Yes it is more violent. There may be less shootings, but every other category of violent crime, assault, rape, home invasion, stabbings is much higher. One category of crime that is rare here is “glassing” every year in Britain there are over 5,000 glassing victims. That is over a hundred per week for a country that is one fifth of the US population.
For a Yank who is not prepared for British glassing culture Britain and Australia are especially dangerous.
This young college student had only been in London for three days before he was glassed by the sharia patrol in a muslim no go zone, something which you falsely claimed does not exist…
There was an American judge on the Australian X factor who was glassed in Sydney.
Pictures have emerged of American pop star Redfoo being smashed in the head by a glass bottle and hotel security guards trying to restrain the bleeding singer.
Police charged a 21-year-old man over the attack on the American music star at the Golden Sheaf Hotel in Double Bay in Sydney’s inner east around 12:45am on Thursday morning.
The X Factor judge said he was dancing with some girls in the roped-off VIP section of the pub when a ‘dodgy’ guy threw a glass, cutting him on the head.
‘It was shocking to me, when something like that happens,’ Redfoo, 38, told Daily Mail Australia. ‘There was quite a bit of blood.’
I’m not lying at all. I can back up what I am saying about the US with the FBI uniform crime report. Violent crime in the US has been going down every year for about twenty years with substantial reduction seen in states that have gone to shall issue concealed weapons permits. If anyone is lying it is you, because in Britain there is no comparable reliable study of crime to compare to. The statistics there are produced by the government in power and therefore are open to politically motivated massaging.
Preliminary figures indicate that law enforcement agencies throughout the nation showed an overall decrease of 4.6 percent in the number of violent crimes brought to their attention for the first 6 months of 2014 when compared with figures reported for the same time in 2013. The violent crime category includes murder, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The number of property crimes in the United States from January to June of 2014 decreased 7.5 percent when compared with data for the same time period in 2013.
Last but not least here is Max Velocity backing up what I wrote about the UK being more violent.
“Piers Morgan’s attack on the second amendment doesn’t reflect the views of all English citizens. Reporter David Ortiz speaks with former British & American Soldier Max Velocity on this issue.”
Do the parties vary in how they view this Motley Crue?
IN GENERAL…it seems like in the U.S…the general Public Loves the Monarchy, and seems to follow their every move, wedding, birth and mishap. (Heck…little George could probably win a Political Office if he was a citizen and old enough!)
But seriously…how to the parties view the Monarchy?
Mufasa[/quote]
Lots of people love them, elderly people get very angry if you even question the morality of forking out 300 million a year to keep in power the descendants of the people who terrorised and oppressed our ancestors.
More and more young people are questioning it but people either support them or see it as not a big issue in the grand scheme of things. People are also told the monarchy generates more money than it costs the taxpayer to pay for them, but this is because the figure the government gives out does not include taxpayer costs for their security, transport etc.
It comes to around 300 million a year.
I personally find the whole idea of monarchy archaic and disgusting but republicanism and constitutionalist sentiment are not as popular as i would like.
There is a section of the new athiest crowd inspired by the likes of Chris Hitchens who would like to see us create a constitution and a republic. I would imagine it would be somewhat different to the yours. It would be tricky convincing British people that we should have the right to bare arms. I have never met a single person who thinks guns should be legal to own. I do and I am sure some republicans here do but it is hard to argue that our society is not much safer since we introduced gun control.
I would argue our freedom and rights to be armed in case of tyrannical government may outweigh the violence but the vast majority would say no. The main position would be I am more scared of some nutter killing my kids in a school than the non looming thread of a dictatorship. Plus because of gun criminalisation guns on the black market are extremely expensive. A semi automatic rifle on the black market here is tens of thousands of pounds. Which means even our gang members mostly don’t have access to guns and even the ones who do have pistols and the like and armed police have mp5’s.
It is the old security v liberty debate and honestly most British people are firmly on the security side.
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It’s a big money maker with the tourists is one argument in favor but there are other reasons why getting rid of the monarchy is a non starter. The number one reason is it is a huge distraction from the operation of the government. ie Is it really just a coincidence that there was a new Royal born just a week before the general election?
Next problem in getting rid of them is there is a whole power structure over there that has evolved over centuries based upon the system of honours, titles and being brought into that system. So even though the monarchy has no authority it still wields a lot of power through that system.
For example if you are a business supplying a product to Buckingham palace you can qualify for what is known as a Royal Warrant of Appointment. ie Cadburys chocolate and Twinings tea have warrants so they are allowed to print the royal warrant on their product label. It’s like the Anglican equivalent of a Kosher stamp. This is very prestigious and good for business if you can get one.
If you have a title or honour of some sort it is the Kingdom’s E ticket into the Old Boy network. So it is very beneficial to be in that system and those who are in that system have a lot invested in getting into it and a lot to lose if it is abolished.
The right to keep and bear arms is the most important of all the rights granted by the Bill of Rights. Without that right the Bill of Rights is just a meaningless piece of parchment. But the people over there have been brain washed to believe that they can’t be trusted.
The British are so brainwashed they think Britain is safer than the US because less people are shot every year. But if you ever consider the overall total of violent crime, Britain is far more dangerous dangerous than the US. Compared to Americans the British are much more willing to resort to violence and their willingness to escalate the level of violence is much higher.
A good example of the brain washing is the mistaken belief that one is more likely to die in a school shooting than they are ever going to have the need to defend themselves. The reality in the US is law abiding citizens use firearms to defend themselves every day in multiple incidents, many of which never even get reported.
The threat of dictatorship is very real. Just across the English channel in France they are now living under martial law and the same conditions and circumstances are in play in Britain.
It isn’t that difficult to get ahold of an illegal gun in Britain. One common source is to travel to Prague, buy them there and bring them back.
�??�??�??�?�¢??They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.�??�??�??�?�¢??
Ben Franklin[/quote]
Britain is not more violent than the U.S. This is pure fantasy. I will agree those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither, but you are pretending gun control limits safety and security. There is a reason most are pro gun control and that is the massive drop in crime in all nations that have established strict gun control.
There is a reason that since gun control in the UK and Australia we have seen no mass shootings in either, where as we had prominent ones right before the new legislation was brought in. Lying about the fact gun control reduces danger is deceitful. If it didn’t people wouldn’t support it and the crime rate wouldn’t of magically dropped right afterwards.
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Yes it is more violent. There may be less shootings, but every other category of violent crime, assault, rape, home invasion, stabbings is much higher. One category of crime that is rare here is “glassing” every year in Britain there are over 5,000 glassing victims. That is over a hundred per week for a country that is one fifth of the US population.
For a Yank who is not prepared for British glassing culture Britain and Australia are especially dangerous.
This young college student had only been in London for three days before he was glassed by the sharia patrol in a muslim no go zone, something which you falsely claimed does not exist…
There was an American judge on the Australian X factor who was glassed in Sydney.
Pictures have emerged of American pop star Redfoo being smashed in the head by a glass bottle and hotel security guards trying to restrain the bleeding singer.
Police charged a 21-year-old man over the attack on the American music star at the Golden Sheaf Hotel in Double Bay in Sydney’s inner east around 12:45am on Thursday morning.
The X Factor judge said he was dancing with some girls in the roped-off VIP section of the pub when a ‘dodgy’ guy threw a glass, cutting him on the head.
‘It was shocking to me, when something like that happens,’ Redfoo, 38, told Daily Mail Australia. ‘There was quite a bit of blood.’
I’m not lying at all. I can back up what I am saying about the US with the FBI uniform crime report. Violent crime in the US has been going down every year for about twenty years with substantial reduction seen in states that have gone to shall issue concealed weapons permits. If anyone is lying it is you, because in Britain there is no comparable reliable study of crime to compare to. The statistics there are produced by the government in power and therefore are open to politically motivated massaging.
Preliminary figures indicate that law enforcement agencies throughout the nation showed an overall decrease of 4.6 percent in the number of violent crimes brought to their attention for the first 6 months of 2014 when compared with figures reported for the same time in 2013. The violent crime category includes murder, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The number of property crimes in the United States from January to June of 2014 decreased 7.5 percent when compared with data for the same time period in 2013.
Last but not least here is Max Velocity backing up what I wrote about the UK being more violent.
“Piers Morgan’s attack on the second amendment doesn’t reflect the views of all English citizens. Reporter David Ortiz speaks with former British & American Soldier Max Velocity on this issue.”
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Did you just post an info wars conspiracy Alex Jones video to back you argument?
The last shred of credibility just plummeted to the ground like a fucking meteorite Was 9/11 an inside job and is the Illuminati running the world? Because that is the entire world view of the people in the video you posted.
The Muslim patrols were a group of like 60 Muslims associated with Anjem Choudry who would harass and assault, most of the time verbally, passers by who were gay, drinking etc. Most of these gobshites are now in prison and they don’t dare venture outside their own tiny community.
A couple of retards who are mostly off the streets now are no threat to the state or public in any meaningful way. They have not killed anyone, they control nothing, they have no power and no support. It is far safer for me to walk pass the Muslim Patrol fisting my boyfriend than it is for a white boy to venture through compton. Stop imagining some grand conspiracy where muslims control the UK, it does not exist apart from inside your head.
And you are comparing someone getting hit by a bottle to people being killed by guns and claiming the one where people get glassed is more dangerous. It is dumb. The randomness of someone walking into a school and pumping 5 rounds through little sally field’s skull and a bloke who during a fight bottles someone is not comparable. The damage is not comparable.
Stop pretending America is safer than the UK. You have more freedom, you have better weather, you have cooler shit but you are most definitely not safer or less likely to be affected by crime.
Now…this may be wrong…but the first thought I had when you talked about gun control in the UK was that with more and more segments of the UK accepting Sharia Law…and more and more segments becoming more and more radicalized…maybe it’s NOT a bad idea to have some control over the flow of weapons.
(In the U.S.; as you alluded to; this thought would be absolute treason…)
Mufasa[/quote]
The muslims who are pushing Sharia are such a small minority even if they were armed we would smash them embarassingly quickly. I would be more worried about either far left or far right people getting their hands on guns. Both pro dictatorship, both not scared to use violence and and both possibly able to gain mass support in times of economic turbulence.
Then again hopefully enough rational people would have enough guns to do something about them
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Touche…!
I guess I revealed a bias fueled by the media.
If you listen to the media; one gets the impression that the UK (London in particular) is becoming “Tehran West”.
Mufasa
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There are areas dominated by Muslim immigrants but the talk of no go zones etc is a fairytale, like that guy who claimed it on fox news then had to retract it and admit he was misinformed.
That said Muslim refusal to assimilate to our culture is worrying. The fact Rotherham council and police refused to investigate Muslim grooming gangs because they were worried about being called racist is also fucking terrifying.
The islamification of Britain scaremongering is ridiculous but there are truths to the overall prospering of islamism within our borders.
In the 80’s and 90’s openly racist skinheads etc would beat and harass the Muslim community and attacks and general racism against them turned them inwards, a community that in the 60’s and 70’s was all about working hard and making the best of yourself, assimilating by going to regular schools and adopting football teams changed to going to Muslim schools, going to Muslim businesses, only conversing with other Muslims.
I am currently reading a book called Radical by Maajid Nawaz and he explains this process very well. However with access to the internet and the dropping levels of racism I think we will see the assimilation of the Islamic community within the nest 2 decades.
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When the vast majority of them were new immigrants they may have felt a need to assimilate because they weren’t born there. The problem is the next generation, the ones were born there, do not feel the need to assimilate because they were born there. You cannot fix that.
The belief that they are going to somehow, someday, assimilate to become like the British is not only completely delusional it is suicidal. You need to go spend some time down in a city center on a Friday or Saturday night and see what a wild bunch of out of control drunken whore mongers and drunken whores the British youth are.
There is no way in hell you are going to get the vast majority of muslims to behave like that they find that kind of behavior abhorrent.
Holy shit can you imagine if someone on the boards did this about the American people. Whore mongers and whores, guess thats why we are so happy and don’t need to go and shoot 8 year olds in schools
Hates immigration
Hates the English
Hates gun control
Good guy
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Eight year old’s in school, are you serious? If you want to compare violence against children answer this. In Britain how many pre-pubescent girls will be genitally mutilated this year? How many adolescent British girls will go on summer vacation to another country and just not come back?
How about Rotherham where over 1400 girls were systematically raped and trafficked into prostitution? How about the sentences? If those predators were in the US they would put them under the jail for what they did.
Name[18] Conviction Sentence
Zafran Ramzan rape, 2 charges of sexual activity with a child 9 years
Razwan Razaq 2 charges of sexual activity with a child 11 years
Umar Razaq sexual activity with a child 4.5 years
Adil Hussain sexual activity with a child 4 years
Mohsin Khan sexual activity with a child 4 years
I don’t hate immigration. But I am opposed to it being weaponized and used against people in order to undermine liberty.
I don’t hate the English, my favorite relatives are English. I would say ashamed of is a better description. They are a people who have lost their way. That is why they cannot get the muslims to assimilate.
Gun control is a misnomer. It really should be called people control.
I am a good guy, the people who know me value my friendship.
Now…this may be wrong…but the first thought I had when you talked about gun control in the UK was that with more and more segments of the UK accepting Sharia Law…and more and more segments becoming more and more radicalized…maybe it’s NOT a bad idea to have some control over the flow of weapons.
(In the U.S.; as you alluded to; this thought would be absolute treason…)
Mufasa[/quote]
The muslims who are pushing Sharia are such a small minority even if they were armed we would smash them embarassingly quickly. I would be more worried about either far left or far right people getting their hands on guns. Both pro dictatorship, both not scared to use violence and and both possibly able to gain mass support in times of economic turbulence.
Then again hopefully enough rational people would have enough guns to do something about them
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Touche…!
I guess I revealed a bias fueled by the media.
If you listen to the media; one gets the impression that the UK (London in particular) is becoming “Tehran West”.
Mufasa
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There are areas dominated by Muslim immigrants but the talk of no go zones etc is a fairytale, like that guy who claimed it on fox news then had to retract it and admit he was misinformed.
That said Muslim refusal to assimilate to our culture is worrying. The fact Rotherham council and police refused to investigate Muslim grooming gangs because they were worried about being called racist is also fucking terrifying.
The islamification of Britain scaremongering is ridiculous but there are truths to the overall prospering of islamism within our borders.
In the 80’s and 90’s openly racist skinheads etc would beat and harass the Muslim community and attacks and general racism against them turned them inwards, a community that in the 60’s and 70’s was all about working hard and making the best of yourself, assimilating by going to regular schools and adopting football teams changed to going to Muslim schools, going to Muslim businesses, only conversing with other Muslims.
I am currently reading a book called Radical by Maajid Nawaz and he explains this process very well. However with access to the internet and the dropping levels of racism I think we will see the assimilation of the Islamic community within the nest 2 decades.
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When the vast majority of them were new immigrants they may have felt a need to assimilate because they weren’t born there. The problem is the next generation, the ones were born there, do not feel the need to assimilate because they were born there. You cannot fix that.
The belief that they are going to somehow, someday, assimilate to become like the British is not only completely delusional it is suicidal. You need to go spend some time down in a city center on a Friday or Saturday night and see what a wild bunch of out of control drunken whore mongers and drunken whores the British youth are.
There is no way in hell you are going to get the vast majority of muslims to behave like that they find that kind of behavior abhorrent.
Holy shit can you imagine if someone on the boards did this about the American people. Whore mongers and whores, guess thats why we are so happy and don’t need to go and shoot 8 year olds in schools
Hates immigration
Hates the English
Hates gun control
Good guy
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Eight year old’s in school, are you serious? If you want to compare violence against children answer this. In Britain how many pre-pubescent girls will be genitally mutilated this year? How many adolescent British girls will go on summer vacation to another country and just not come back?
How about Rotherham where over 1400 girls were systematically raped and trafficked into prostitution? How about the sentences? If those predators were in the US they would put them under the jail for what they did.
Name[18] Conviction Sentence
Zafran Ramzan rape, 2 charges of sexual activity with a child 9 years
Razwan Razaq 2 charges of sexual activity with a child 11 years
Umar Razaq sexual activity with a child 4.5 years
Adil Hussain sexual activity with a child 4 years
Mohsin Khan sexual activity with a child 4 years
I don’t hate immigration. But I am opposed to it being weaponized and used against people in order to undermine liberty.
I don’t hate the English, my favorite relatives are English. I would say ashamed of is a better description. They are a people who have lost their way. That is why they cannot get the muslims to assimilate.
Gun control is a misnomer. It really should be called people control.
I am a good guy, the people who know me value my friendship. [/quote]
What are you talking about, are you aware of your nations rates of rape and child abuse and those of mine? You are delusional. Also We don’t generally cut out little boys cocks up here (8.5%). I don’t think it is ok to cut anyones genitals. Let them make up their own mind when they are adults. But then no one would do it would they.
as for not being able to get people to assimilate, you have little Havana, Little Italy, you have communities of Mexicans and Poles who don’t even speak English. You come off as a moron when you talk waffle.
Also was 9/11 an inside job? You used links from 9/11 truthers who think the Illuminati control the planet. Why do you think they are credible sources?
The BNP are more leftist, socialist. The other thing to consider is the BNP have been around a lot longer and have weathered the storm. The government is well versed in infiltrating political organizations with it’s own agents. So you really have to be suspicious of any of the nationalist parties. Nick Griffin wrote an excellent article on the subject that is well worth reading. [/quote]
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Yeah the man who denied the holocaust and wrote books claiming the bolshevist jews who are also finance capitaists rule the world and has claimed he wants forced expatriation of anyone of colour despite being born here is actually a left winger. This must be a wind up because you can’t be this ignorant.
I’ve heard all the nasty things about Nick Griffin ad nauseum. The odd thing about Nick Griffin is although he may be an asshole he is still one of the most genuine people in British politics today.
I think it is very hypocritical to complain about some things he has said or written about Jews in the past and make no mention of what the political parties in power are doing to them today.
The BNP are more leftist, socialist. The other thing to consider is the BNP have been around a lot longer and have weathered the storm. The government is well versed in infiltrating political organizations with it’s own agents. So you really have to be suspicious of any of the nationalist parties. Nick Griffin wrote an excellent article on the subject that is well worth reading. [/quote]
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Yeah the man who denied the holocaust and wrote books claiming the bolshevist jews who are also finance capitaists rule the world and has claimed he wants forced expatriation of anyone of colour despite being born here is actually a left winger. This must be a wind up because you can’t be this ignorant.
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I’ve heard all the nasty things about Nick Griffin ad nauseum. The odd thing about Nick Griffin is although he may be an asshole he is still one of the most genuine people in British politics today.
I think it is very hypocritical to complain about some things he has said or written about Jews in the past and make no mention of what the political parties in power are doing to them today.
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What on earth are you talking about. Does your conspiracy theory rambling ever stop? Do you ever have a moment of realisation?
The only third party likely to gain power is UKIP. But I’m Australian born and intend to die here. Besides, I don’t really get along with my UK relatives. We’re on good terms but we’re at opposite ends of the spectrum on everything. If I was going to move anywhere it would be the US. I’m going to go there for a holiday soon. I want to hire a big, high revving American V8 and take an extended road trip across the continent. Will not be interested in meeting up with anyone from T-Nation so don’t ask. T-Nation is my anonymous psychological release place. I’m not really this crazy in real life.[/quote]
I am a Mustang guy too. I would love to do that trip with you because we share similar interests in cars… Plus, I am a great conversationalist and I have driven across this continent before.
I am however this crazy in real life. I don’t have a persona, what you see is what you get.
Sifu, you can’t possibly be reaching for info wars to support your position. That’s a crazy site and holds absolutely zero credibility.
But Yamato, you also have to remember that the violent crime statistics for this country are severely skewed by several hot spots. Take, for example, Detroit and South LA out of the stats and the rest of the country looks a shitload better. A few bad apples and all that. Bottom line is, though, that with over 300 million privately owned guns in this country the genie is not going back into the bottle any time soon. Nor should it, in my view. Then again that is beyond this thread.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Sifu, you can’t possibly be reaching for info wars to support your position. That’s a crazy site and holds absolutely zero credibility.
But Yamato, you also have to remember that the violent crime statistics for this country are severely skewed by several hot spots. Take, for example, Detroit and South LA out of the stats and the rest of the country looks a shitload better. A few bad apples and all that. Bottom line is, though, that with over 300 million privately owned guns in this country the genie is not going back into the bottle any time soon. Nor should it, in my view. Then again that is beyond this thread.[/quote]
The last time he was here under a different name I posted a Un study that refuted his lies about GB being safer, and he refused to read it.
Expect no less now.
He’s willfully ignorant and dancing on the graves of school children to try and insult rather than actually speaking in facts.
The only third party likely to gain power is UKIP. But I’m Australian born and intend to die here. Besides, I don’t really get along with my UK relatives. We’re on good terms but we’re at opposite ends of the spectrum on everything. If I was going to move anywhere it would be the US. I’m going to go there for a holiday soon. I want to hire a big, high revving American V8 and take an extended road trip across the continent. Will not be interested in meeting up with anyone from T-Nation so don’t ask. T-Nation is my anonymous psychological release place. I’m not really this crazy in real life.[/quote]
I am a Mustang guy too. I would love to do that trip with you because we share similar interests in cars… Plus, I am a great conversationalist and I have driven across this continent before.
I am however this crazy in real life. I don’t have a persona, what you see is what you get.[/quote]
We do have a lot in common. Including back pain. I wouldn’t call it a persona though. More like a small element of my genuine psyche.
The only third party likely to gain power is UKIP. But I’m Australian born and intend to die here. Besides, I don’t really get along with my UK relatives. We’re on good terms but we’re at opposite ends of the spectrum on everything. If I was going to move anywhere it would be the US. I’m going to go there for a holiday soon. I want to hire a big, high revving American V8 and take an extended road trip across the continent. Will not be interested in meeting up with anyone from T-Nation so don’t ask. T-Nation is my anonymous psychological release place. I’m not really this crazy in real life.[/quote]
I am a Mustang guy too. I would love to do that trip with you because we share similar interests in cars… Plus, I am a great conversationalist and I have driven across this continent before.
I am however this crazy in real life. I don’t have a persona, what you see is what you get.[/quote]
We do have a lot in common. Including back pain. I wouldn’t call it a persona though. More like a small element of my genuine psyche.[/quote]
Oh I could bore the shit out of you with regalia of my lumbar misery! I get what your saying. I talk about things here that I wouldn’t normally address with normal folks in polite conversation. After all, it’s politics and religion. While my stances are what they are, I seldom discuss them outside of this here forum.
I have some friends who are German and they explained the pitfalls of proportional representation to me because they have it there.
Was 9/11 an inside job and is the Illuminati running the world? Because that is the entire world view of the people in the video you posted.