I can’t believe you’d say that, i’m outraged.
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I have made the majority of my progress as a lifetime natural following bodybuilding style splits and workouts. I agree with you that it does work. I followed routines in MuscleMag and Flex for years usually knocking a set or 2 off the “as written” workout.
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Underrated: genetics
Overrated: genetics
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I feel like calling things “bodybuilding training” and “powerlifting training” or “strongman training” gets confusing, because bodybuilders, powerlifters and strongman all train differently. Dorian trained different than Bruce Randall than did Zane than did Ronnie. Kaz trained differently than Hepburn than did Anderson. Andersen different from Pudz different from Poundstone.
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That’s right, but in bodybuilding, for example, there are principles that overlap regardless of training style. For example, much more isolation work, much more focus on the working muscle and others. And whether you choose a higher volume or focus on one or two work sets really to total failure, as well as other training options, I think it’s about finding out which works best for your body.
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It’s a weird line to walk, right? Like I get what people are getting at when they say “bodybuilder training” or “athlete training”, but I definitely was doing different things for basketball than football.
I also think of bodybuilder training as being wussy stuff, but I don’t think that’s the way I do it. Although whoever reads my log may feel differently…
Stil, there’s a case to be made for brevity when trying to get a general point across. I don’t know the right balance of specificity here.
This last post is meant to be used in my PhD dissertation as an argument so circular and rhetorical it can only indicate elite academia.
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Overpriced: What you see in the mirror 
I disagree, based on my experience competing in the other iron sports. To be a bodybuilder, you compete in a bodybuilding competition. However you trained to get there is on you. When I competed in my first powerlifting meet, I was running DoggCrapp. Was I a powerlifter or a bodybuilder? And when I competed in my first strongman competition, I was doing 5/3/1. Who knows what I was then?!
I feel like getting away from these classifications is helpful. So many people won’t run 5/3/1 because it’s “a powerlifting program”, despite the fact it’s absolutely not.
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Yes, I understand what you mean and I agree to some extent.
I also thought of something else: In many cases, the importance of what others tell you is overestimated. Especially when they criticize, especially when the criticism is from people who are not so familiar with training. But when a novice is reprimanded, he cannot distinguish the right directions from the wrong ones, because in both cases the guidelines given to him may seem right to him.
The issue with online communication is an inability to control the audience. If I talk just with you, I know you get what I’m saying…but I DON’T know who else is “listening”. And that’s how the telephone game unfolds. Heck, even with my blog, I’ll have people that tell me they’ve read everything I wrote for years and STILL screw up some fundamental principle of mine. Its wild the delta between what is said and what is heard.
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Very fair point
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This mad me smile. I have people at work who literally forget their own job from Friday to Monday. I think your expectations might not be low enough.
Not at all: as a misanthrope they totally meet my expectations. It’s what makes me a misanthrope, haha.
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Just pleased you still stick around and try to share and teach mate. There are at least a few people that benefit from it.
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For sure! I can’t complain if I’m not willing to try to make it better.
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I am going to steal this. I like the idea that trying gives me a grumpy old man allowance.
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I don’t know how much this is rooted in science, but my recent nutrition habits have led me to make the following (possibly) controversial classifications:
Overrated: Post-workout nutrition and the “anabolic window”
Underrated: Pre-workout and gasp intra-workout nutrition.
I can’t always do it, but for longer bodybuilding-style workouts I find that having a protein shake on hand to sip as I workout skyrockets my endurance, and if I focus on having a solid meal beforehand I really don’t give two craps about running for a protein shake or a meal right afterwards - I get to it when I get to it.
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For me in the whole scheme of training, I think they are both overrated, or at least focused on too much. LOL
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I’ve actually never been a huge fan of yoga or static stretching either. I just do not feel it’s a good use of my time and I don’t think static stretching helps strength either although it certainly doesn’t really hurt anything either.
And certainly any program can work, whether it’s a pro bodybuilding program or not. Your body is quite amazing and it will respond to really anything as long as there’s some form of progressive overload involved and you’re willing to get out of your comfort zone.
In my opinion, and I’ve been training since I was a kid (so for over 20 years now), ANY PROGRAM can work. Doesn’t matter if it’s from a muscle mag or an established coach in your gym. Your body will change and adapt as long as you give it a reason to change and adapt. As long as you’re using some form of progressive overload, getting enough sleep and calories, your body will adapt with pretty much any stimulus you subject it to.
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