I’m currently carb cycling and today is an off day so only low GI carbs. I’ve been munching on broccoli, string beans and chicken all day and am only up to:
p/f/c
174/56/113
I usualy dont eat 3 hours before hitting the sack and still need to get in 80p and about 60c but it’s already 8:00pm. Should I just go ahead and eat some bread and drink 2 shakes or what??
Why don’t you eat 3 hours prior to bedtime?
Why don’t you eat prior to bedtime?
I thought that was a bad thing and your body couldnt use the food, I might be dead wrong here though
Yeah, you were wrong. Doesn’t matter as much as a lot of overweight people are led to believe.
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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Yeah, you were wrong. Doesn’t matter as much as a lot of overweight people are led to believe.
S[/quote]
thnx, I’m glad I got you guys to school me on some of the basics
[quote]SickDevildog wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Yeah, you were wrong. Doesn’t matter as much as a lot of overweight people are led to believe.
S[/quote]
thnx, I’m glad I got you guys to school me on some of the basics[/quote]
Get some Casein protein for before bed. Cottage Cheese is a good source you can buy at the grocery store, or you could use a powdered version of the protein.
Got some cottage cheese in the fridge, will do.
Cottage cheese is a life saver, and if your numbers allow, I’m a big fan of throwing in some cashews for added cals and fats (also tasty with some splenda and cinnamon).
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Stu, how much cottage cheese are you eating each night?
I 1 cup last night with cinnamon, nutmeg, allspice, and splenda on it. I didn’t start gagging until the last few bites, up until then I actually liked it.
I think I’m gonna try it with some cashews next time I go to the grocery store.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Yeah, you were wrong. Doesn’t matter as much as a lot of overweight people are led to believe.
S[/quote]
of course they’re overweight because eat before bed. What other reason could it be
I usually have a cup at a time (half of a normal container). By itself, it’s 180 cals, 32 prot, 4 carbs. Add in some (~1/4 cup) cashews, and you get an additional 170 cals, 10 carbs and 5 prot (cashews have higher carb content than a lot of other nuts). WHen not dieting, I’m sure I add at least 1/2 cup of cashews, so we’re talking a nice 520 cal snack with at least 42g of prot, which is pretty easy to just put in a small tupperware and bring with you 
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@ Stu and DOHcrazy: I’m not trying to overcomplicate this, but I want to understand your guy’s rationale. Are the following assumptions correct?
a) I believe that you are saying eating before bed doesn’t matter with respect to weight gain (which I agree with assuming #2)
b) Calories in vs calories out is the major indicator of weight gain.
What I wonder is if you guys believe there is a difference eating protein right before bed and 3 hours before bed.
I think both come cals in and nutrient timing come into play, but in most instances it’s 90+% the former. Interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks for the input!
I think you’re over complicating it.
Sure, it’s calories in vs calories out, but that doesn’t mean you can eat butter all day and not expect to get fat.
Stu and I both eat foods that are ‘good’ for us. He is much better at it than I am, as you can tell from his pictures.
I am currently dieting down, so in order to retain as much muscle as possible, I’m not going to go 12 hours without eating (3 before bed + 8 hours asleep.) By having a casein protein before bed, you keep amino acids digesting/in your bloodstream for another 6-8 hours.
I think protein timing is important, but I also don’t make anything too difficult. Having a meal (either a casein shake or some cottage cheese) before bed doesn’t inconvenient me at all.
The only thing I would do is stay away from excess carbs before bed. I don’t have to worry about this, as I have no carbs for the rest of the day past my workout, whether I am bulking or trying to loose weight.
I just go for a MD shake before bed plus leucine while cutting.
It’s not as simple as cals in vs cals out… obviously nutrient timing is a big thing, especially in regard to muscle gain (or maintenance). A lot of the approaches for weight loss (for normal, or less than active folks) totally ignore the all important point of keeping your LBM in order to speed your metabolism. Considering that a lot of your recovery (muscle growth) occurs when you are sleeping, wouldn’t it make sense to give your body adequate supplies in order to complete the process as efficiently as possible? (I’m simplifying this a bit, but you should get my point).
You still have to have some sort of caloric deficit in order to lose weight though. I’ve seen countless trainers lower their carbs, but not their cals, and after some initial water loss, wonder why they’re not getting shredded. COuld I go out and eat a chocolate bar while dieting? If it fits into my macro split and doesn’t put me over my cal limit for the day sure I could. But I’d feel better overall by selecting something slower digesting, or simply more satiety inducing.
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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I just go for a MD shake before bed plus leucine while cutting.[/quote]
Leucine spikes insulin. Just an FYI, in case you were adding any fat to that shake.
[quote]DOHCrazy wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I just go for a MD shake before bed plus leucine while cutting.[/quote]
Leucine spikes insulin. Just an FYI, in case you were adding any fat to that shake. [/quote]
usually 1-2 TBSP PB.
I’m not one to worry about insulin release and fat intake in the same meal.