[quote]Sloth wrote:
Unfortunately, there’s no way to check the anonymous sources. US response states the relationship as only going so far as to tracking Al Qaeda members in Pakistan for the US. There are a number of Tribal leaders now wanting them and the Taliban gone, after all. So, I wouldn’t doubt that we’ve been in touch with Jundallah, and other militant groups, to obtain the whereabouts of Al Qaeda/Taliban members. Especially on key leaders. But, I 'm seriously doubting the whole “US is helping Jundallah attack Iranians” until some solid sources are revealed to confirm this.
By the way, Pakistan has vehemently denied this report. At this point there’s just not enough here for me to believe this story is accurate.[/quote]
Agreed.
Please note the people who have the U.S. already tried, convicted, and worthy of verbal punishment based on this “evidence.”
If certain posters weren’t so obvious, they might be dangerous.
[quote]lixy wrote:
lucasa wrote:
If you’re referring to the Feb. 14th bombing, everyone killed or injured was a member of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corp.
Nope. Most of them were indeed Revolutinary guards though.[/quote]
My “mistake”, everyone killed was a Guardsman.
A bomb explosion killed at least 18 members of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards in southeastern Iran, the state-run news agency reported Wednesday.
On Wednesday, a car bomb blew up a bus carrying Revolutionary Guards, killing 11, in Zahedan, capital of Sistan-Baluchestan province, which sits on the border with Pakistan.
Three nights later members of the same organization set off a sound bomb which killed no one and they subsequently managed to knock out power to part of the city. A far cry from wearing a dynamite vest to the local trattoria.
And given Iran’s penchant for disinformation with regard to their internal civil unrest, the ability to verify any association with the US is irreparably compromised. Hell, they used to blame Britain and Canada for the exact same thing.
I’m not saying I have proof of the alleged association, but I have no doubt that such actions, if true, would be kept secret and out of the public eye. By the time the documents are released, most of us will have stopped caring…[/quote]
Unfortunately I’ve seen the media, on far too many occasions, create the fire where there had been none in the first place. Again, we have official responses versus anonymous sources. I’m on the very doubtful side until something alot more solid than anonymous sources pops up. As of now, I don’t think any neutral media or organization has been able to confirm the accusations, or even the validity of the anonymous sources.
Also, if the relationship is no more than tracking/informing on Al Qaeda or Taliban members, I’m not concerned. If Jundallah wants to inform on their whereabouts, let them. If we’re giving them info on possible locations, so they’ll go check for us, absolutely fine with that too.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Maybe this is just revenge for taking our people hostage in the 70’s and killing 300 some marines and others in Beirut.
Live by the sword, die by the sword. If you don’t like the heat, get out of the kitchen.
BTW, did you attend the big parade in Iraq?
Don’t forget all the Americans and Iraqis being killed with bombs made in Iran and smuggled into Iraq.
And supporting terrorism as a means of revenge makes us moral… how?
Killing enemy soldiers is not terrorism, it is war.
We are in a low grade war with Iran. They started it almost 30 years ago and we have only begun to fight back.
Did you read the stupid thing? Civilians died. On purpose.
Therefore: Terrorism.[/quote]
Not according to lucas’ post. lucas carries more credibility than lixy.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
lixy wrote:
Cunnivore wrote:
Meanwhile, if true, it doesn’t sound like .gov has learned much from the past.
Also, if true, can we agree that the US sponsors terrorism? Or is it only terrorism when others do it?
'Get a dog to eat a dog."
— old Roman proverb
If you get a dog to eat a dog, you are no better than a dog.
Why? If a dog is harassing you and its not expedient (politically correct) to simply blast the dog off the planet, just get your own pit bull.
Side note: Pit Bulls are the best goddamn dogs on this planet! Need some in Iraq to chew on a few legs; war would be over soon.
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Or you could strap it down until it calms down some, or strap it down and gas it the humane way. You know there are better ways to die besides being shot and bitten right?
If I have a dog that won’t leave me alone, I wouldn’t torture the damn thing. That’s immoral, and no better than being the dog, who is at least a deluded being.
We know better. We KNOW terrorism and it’s followings are immoral. We KNOW it’s wrong and disgusting. We have NO religious backing for it. It doesn’t make it worse for us compared to them (as they do it to a much greater degree), but it DOES make it even more disgusting when we do it than it would be otherwise.
Similar to the Japanese internment camps and the Nazi camps. The Nazi camps were obviously worse, but I am still appalled by the US actions during the WWII period to jail the Japanese. And even worse after that in the Cold War, when we went crazy imprisoning random “Commies”.