Yes backed by the U.S.
Ask them if they would immigrate to the US if they could.
I’m sure there are a lot more Russians and Chinese who would love to move to the US than the other way around.
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What point are you trying to make? Even if the US did escalate first, why would that be evidence of declining US influence. And no, the US did not invade Ukraine or start a war there.
Russia and China have been partnering with each other on and off for nearly 100 years at this point. They have never really been able to decide if they trust the west or each other less. Recent developments are not a fundamental change in that situation.
But they were behind the coup of the democratically elected government in 2014. A coup of a democratically elected government is a specialty of the U.S. Helped to provoke a war by wanting to add Ukraine in NATO and the Ukrainians who were shelling the Donbass region for 8 years and the destruction of the Nordstream pipeline just to name a few reasons of provocation.
Keep your blinders on if you don’t like it but anyone who looks at the recent developments of not only Russia and China but other countries as well. Brazil and Mexico have rebuked the U.S. recently. Movements by middle east countries towards peace. It is all around like never before. Keep your head in the sand if that makes you feel more comfortable but the world is moving in a direction w/o the U.S.
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Maybe they would to get away from the U.S. bombing.
And why do you think that is? How many of those “angry” people have nuclear capabilities?
Yes it is very sad that Israel won’t be able to kill Palestinians on a whim. How sad.
The best thing about declining U.S. hegemony is that the U.S. won’t be spreading “democracy” any longer.
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Right.
Previously in this thread I wasn’t specific with who I had in mind: Serbia and Iraq.
I’ve read this sort of thing written on here and I don’t know what this has to do with anything that is discussed.
I also don’t know why one should regard a place depending on whether Americans want to move there. And I also don’t know whether people want to move here for good reasons in all cases.
My grandmother, an immigrant herself (so is my mom) used to say, “People move to the US to do whatever they want,” and she didn’t mean that in a good way.
Good ol’ welfare. But there’s no difference between immigrants that came here in the 19th Century vs. now, of course.
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Or the reasons for the bombing.
For a nation in decline, we sure are attractive.
Is that why she moved here? I know many immigrants, most of my family is immigrants, that would be dozens of people if not well over a hundred, and they came here to work and give their kids better options than they had.
Nope. She was a house wife who raised three well-adjusted people. My granddad owned a store and worked six, sometimes seven, days a week. He paid for all of his children’s tuition. He retired with a good chunk of money, and only because he couldn’t continue working.
Both looked down on lazy, anti-social, and criminal people.
No one in my family can even remember my grandmother cursing more than once in her entire life.
This goes exactly for me too, considering where I’ve lived and worked. Three of my close friends are foreign born, including one who used to post here. That doesn’t mean I consider all immigrants salt of the earth with great ways and intentions.
I believe that’s precisely why some come here, certainly not all.
Funny how Saddam and Ghaddafi had the same idea lol. Wonder what happened to those two guys who wanted to stand up to the US empire.
Yeah, they were some standup dudes.
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So only good people can plan to sell their own resources in their own currencies? Fascinating colonial narrative you’ve arrived at there.
China will never be a superpower because their entire society is heading for collapse due to the one child policy and the killing of generations of women. Look at the birth rates in china v the population. China is heading for mad max society in the next 50 years.
Wasn’t that abandoned?
Any indicators of this? Have you been or lived there? China has the largest middle class in the whole world and has dug more people out of poverty in a relatively short timeframe that hasn’t been seen so far (so some have written and said), but in just 50 years it’s going to collapse and devolve into savagery. I don’t get it. Can you explain?
I’ve heard and read several bad things about life in China. Yet I recently worked with a Chinese-American student who said some of this is exaggerated.
Yeah it was but it was in place for years and most couples aborted girls. This has lead to a horrofic situation where massive numbers of men simply can’t get a woman and are too poor to even be able to leave china.
Birth rates are now in the toilet and as a result old people are going to have no one to pay for their care or take care of them as they age.
This is in a number of academic books but its talked about widely too in mainstream media nowadays, but its been hypothesized since the 90s:
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Thanks for the link.
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