I’m not familiar with Australia’s government, and I very well may agree with you; however, the way you presented things makes it appear there is a large difference and one side is clearly more freedom-oriented than the other….at least, if I understood what you wrote correctly.
Examples?
No favoring a more revolutionary stance not reform. Reforms keep the power structure as it is and does not fundamentally change things.
You use the word sociopathic. I can think of no one who better fits this definition than the CEO. Nothing matters accept more profits.
Wealth redistribution is NOT necessary with the way federal economics actually works. The rich are irrelevant. They ought to be taxed to help avoid them from buying the government and rigging the game for their own benefit. They are NOT needed for people to live lives that aren’t full of struggle and misery.
And abolition of private property is not the same as personal property. No one should be looking to take away your vehicle for example.
But I would agree w/ most of what you said about progressivism.
Virtue signaling is the domain of lying politicians trying to score points, mostly.
Liberals and progressives are not the same. Although they are made to look that way by the media. And the so-called progressives in the Congress, think the fraud squad and Sanders give progressives a bad name as they pretty much do nothing but give the definition a blurred meaning. Like breaking strikes and voting for war. It is so sad to see what Sanders has turned into in the twilight of his political life. Considering what he used to do and the side he would always come down on. So sad to see him push for Biden. No real progressive would do such a thing.
If I can. Progressives seek to change the structure of the system to make it a more equitable world for the masses of people, to help alleviate the everyday suffering of everyday people. Not what liberals(Democrats)do, which is tinker around the edges while leaving the power structure in place.
You can live with the injustice if you want but I would rather try and change it. Should the suffragettes just lived with the fact that women couldn’t vote? All the protests by MLK to change things for the better were just a waste? Should he just accepted things? Should slaves just accepted their lot in life or strive to change their position? According to you, following your garbage logic, they should have just embraced it because it wouldn’t lead to perfection. Forget trying to improve things and fighting for what you believe is right because utopia will not be reached.
Just as long as it’s easy, but if you have to show some fight, forget it.
And you have pushed for a life full of complacency(whether you admit to it or not).
Please enlighten us, your majesty, how ESOP’s are essentially the same as worker coops. How the amount of shares owned equals your voting power has the same power as 1 vote 1 person.
I’ll wait.
That’s not all what my logic meant. Once again, not surprised you didn’t follow. You missed the part where I said “make the most of the shit storm that is human existence”. All those folks marginally improved things, yet at its core life is still full of suffering. No one really changed the nature of human existence nor can they.
You’ll be the first one to throw the white flag in any sort of actual fight. Those that talk the loudest never are the bravest. How exactly are you fighting for anything? You’re definitely not on the level of the people like MLK or even the suffragettes. They actually put their asses on the line. MLK was even murdered for his views. Best you have is some shitposting on a forum where you don’t even participate in the activity that is the main focus.
“Speak softly and carry a big stick” - President Teddy Roosevelt
I don’t believe I did. Can you enumerate exactly how any of my posts have stated for complacency?
Basic contractual and property law still applies no matter what you call it.
Answer my questions first and I will answer yours.
Stop deflecting because you have no fucking clue.
I will ask you more questions:
Can you put your worker coop shares up as collateral?
What happens to those shares when the owner of said shares dies?
In a multi stakeholder coop, there are members like “investor members” or other types with different rights to the standard. Which member type are you speaking of? This is not as cut and dry as you seem to think it is because again you are clueless.
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This can apply to laws and how courts are supposed to function and how they actually function in reality.
The example clearly outlined from discussion above was concerning the actual definition of words versus how people actual use / apply them.
This is rich coming from a bar tender / currency trader with ZERO education to an engineer.
I am literally laughing.
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Not surprised really - he already called me a terrorist in a different thread for working in the defense aerospace industry…
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Oh man wait until he hears I have stocks in Lockheed, Raytheon, Northrop, and General Dynamics.
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Don’t forget Boeing (coincidentally the US number 1 exporter by absolute dollars and part of the reason castollini can make money trading currency.)
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I sold all my Boeing back in late 2018.
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Lockout laws,
rules and regulations for the individual, though the degree of corporate regulation present depends on which party has a majority in parliment at the time. Both the left and the right have fairly similar views with regards to this though.
Look into what Australia has historically done in the name of upholding public safety. Just recently, companies that sell ATV’s/QUAD bikes have pulled out of Australia because Australia… and only Australia has mandated quad bikes be fitted with a number of safety features that other countries don’t care about. As opposed to spending a lot of money to appease Australia’s nanny state bullshit, manufacturers said “fuck you”, pulled out and soon you’ll find quad bikes will likely become obsolete here.
Look up “australia nanny state”… and you’ll see what I’m getting at
Both the left and the right wing here support this ultra intrusive dynamic in the name of upholding public safety.
Remember how Australia became the laughing stock of the world during covid. Breaking records for lockdown durations, stranding tens of thousands of Australian’s overseas for years, shutting down entire states over single digit case numbers etc.
That should give you a representation as to how much government intrusion the people here SUPPORT (not involuntary tyrrany).
Another huge difference between Australia vs Europe, Israel and America is the relationship Aussies have with authority. Australian’s aren’t “larrikin, laid back, chill” individuals who will let bygones be bygones. Australian’s are apathetic, complacent and want to be told what to do at all times as to avoid any semblance of personal responsibility
Remember… I’m just a dumb kid with some strange opinions. Take what I have to say with a grain of salt. Australia, akin to America… is still one of the better countries to live in.
The biggest worry I have about Aus is… rising costs of living making property entirely unaffordable and SERIOUS lack of economic diversity. Investments, stocks, long term strategies for retirement in Aus… a HUGE portion of this market relates to investing in, procuring and renting out property.
However at the moment, there is a huge demand for property… yet no one can afford property… and people can’t afford to pay rent etc. If our property market crashes, there will be a HUGE recession/depression. I believe our market will crash within 10 years unless Australia’s economy can diversify. As long as property remains more/less all adults here are concerned about… we will be fucked when the market crashes
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I buy as much land as often as I can afford.
The big thing there is planning appropriately to keep the land and afford the yearly taxes.
My family lucked out
We purchased a large plot of farm land in the 90s. Look at property prices in Aus
90’s vs now… If only we had subdivision rights… I’d never have to work a day in my life if that became reality.
I’d still work, as a life of doing nothing seems unfulfilling.
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Got it.
Had to look up “lockout laws,” but it appears they are like our ABC laws over here.
As far as ATVs pulling out of Australia goes…look at the automobiles you can buy in some parts of the world that you can’t buy in the U.S.
So do ours, if you exclude outliers and “extremists.” Edit: and racists, bigots, and every other derogatory you can come up with.
No. I remember how everyone should have been locked down forever. We had people on this board scared to death of COVID. Hell, I’m not sure some of our posters have taken in fresh air since they were told COVID existed over three years ago.
Sounds like Australians are Americans.
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