[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Ahhh the strawmen. You’re not very good at this.[/quote]
Considering I asked a question and didn’t attribute anything to you, that is pretty much impossible.
But way to dodge the question.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Ahhh the strawmen. You’re not very good at this.[/quote]
Considering I asked a question and didn’t attribute anything to you, that is pretty much impossible.
But way to dodge the question.[/quote]
You didn’t attribute that I’m “standing up for the Libyans”? Yeah?
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Ahhh the strawmen. You’re not very good at this.[/quote]
Considering I asked a question and didn’t attribute anything to you, that is pretty much impossible.
But way to dodge the question.[/quote]
You didn’t attribute that I’m “standing up for the Libyans”? Yeah?[/quote]
You have been defending the actions of the crowds who cheered the lockerbie bomber, no?
So call it what you want. It doesn’t change the question. Would you do the same thing for Americans that you are doing now for the Libyans?
If your intent wasn’t to diminish the culpability of the Libyan crowds, then what was it? Please correct me.
But once again, you are arguing semantics now and once more, for no apparent reason, not answering the question.
Who reading this would think it reasonable to call what mr planet is doing, “standing up for the Lybians”?
In the question it was merely a placeholder for what he is doing. To phrase it in into the question, I was forced to summarize. What is wrong about that summarizing phrase?
Is this better?
Would you “make the same argument” in reference to Americans supporting these guys, the way you are for the Libyans?
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
It was a bunch of asshole soldiers currently on trial. Not quite America as a whole.
The ridiculousness never ends.[/quote]
Yet when a bunch of asshole Muslims blow some shit up, the stereotype that “All muslims are terrorists” and “Islam is a religion of violence” creep up mostly unquestioned.[/quote]
Who claims all muslims are terrorists? Even though killing is integral with their religion most are peaceful. Even the most rabid anti-islamic person will admit that.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Are they celebrating because they think he is guilty or because they think he is innocent?[/quote]
Are you really this clueless?
Seeing this shit reminds me of how tired I am of hearing how heroic cops and soldiers are.
They are individuals. Some good, some bad.
The nuke technicians in Japan are heroes.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Are they celebrating because they think he is guilty or because they think he is innocent?[/quote]
So then, it would be okay for America to receive these soldiers with a hero’s welcome, even after they were convicted, if we thought they didn’t do it?[/quote]
It would certainly be different than us giving them a hero’s welcom because we thought they did it. Agree?[/quote]
The only facts are that they gave a hero’s welcome to a mass murderer. [/quote]
" In 1990, Rogers [commanding officer of the ship that shot down the flight] was awarded the Legion of Merit “for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer … from April 1987 to May 1989.”"
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
You have been defending the actions of the crowds who cheered the lockerbie bomber, no?
[/quote]
No. I have not.
If an American was arrested in China and imprisoned for years, and the vast majority of Americans believed him innocent, then, yes, I would do the same thing (which, again, isn’t defending their celebrations)
My intent was to rebut the conclusion you drew from your observation.
[quote]
But once again, you are arguing semantics now and once more, for no apparent reason, not answering the question.[/quote]
Wrong on both counts. I already said, repeatedly, that celebrating the release, for those who celebrated based on their belief of his innocence, was in bad taste.
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Are they celebrating because they think he is guilty or because they think he is innocent?[/quote]
Are you really this clueless?[/quote]
Totally.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Are they celebrating because they think he is guilty or because they think he is innocent?[/quote]
So then, it would be okay for America to receive these soldiers with a hero’s welcome, even after they were convicted, if we thought they didn’t do it?[/quote]
It would certainly be different than us giving them a hero’s welcom because we thought they did it. Agree?[/quote]
DD,
You should ahve stopped wasting your time on this clown right here…
Unbelievable.[/quote]
Unbelievable that there is a difference between celebrating the release of a murderer and celebrating the release of an innocent man wrongfully convicted?
Yeah, I’m a clown. Gotcha.
Sorry I ruined the whole “Libyans love terrorists! See! They’re all terrorists supporters, all those ginders are!” party, guyz.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Supporting a terrorist is supporting terrorism regardless of the motive for that support.[/quote]
No, its not.
God dammit.
Ok, let me try to frame this in a way you can relate to.
Lets say a priest is charged with molesting a child. You look at the case, and you honestly believe the man is innocent. However, he is convicted. After a while he is released from prison, and you attend a gathering based around supporting his release because you believe he didn’t do it.
Now, in that scenerio, would it be fair to say that you support pedophilia?
No. Of course not. Because to you, you are just supporting an innocent man being freed.
Do you get it yet? Maybe a little? Maybe?
Now, if you can show some evidence that the majority of his supporters believe he is guilty AND are celebrating his release, then you have a case that they support the use of terrorism.
Which is why I asked for any quotes from the Libyans attending the celebrations. On the last page. Before you started throwing up strawmen about me “Defending the Libyans”.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Supporting a terrorist is supporting terrorism regardless of the motive for that support.[/quote]
No, its not.
God dammit.
Ok, let me try to frame this in a way you can relate to.
Lets say a priest is charged with molesting a child. You look at the case, and you honestly believe the man is innocent. However, he is convicted. After a while he is released from prison, and you attend a gathering based around supporting his release because you believe he didn’t do it.
Now, in that scenerio, would it be fair to say that you support pedophilia?
No. Of course not. Because to you, you are just supporting an innocent man being freed.
Do you get it yet? Maybe a little? Maybe?[/quote]
So you are saying that the Libyans reviewed the facts of the case?
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Supporting a terrorist is supporting terrorism regardless of the motive for that support.[/quote]
No, its not.
God dammit.
Ok, let me try to frame this in a way you can relate to.
Lets say a priest is charged with molesting a child. You look at the case, and you honestly believe the man is innocent. However, he is convicted. After a while he is released from prison, and you attend a gathering based around supporting his release because you believe he didn’t do it.
Now, in that scenerio, would it be fair to say that you support pedophilia?
No. Of course not. Because to you, you are just supporting an innocent man being freed.
Do you get it yet? Maybe a little? Maybe?[/quote]
So you are saying that the Libyans reviewed the facts of the case?[/quote]
DD - your case shouldnt be hard to prove. Just read all those articles you posted, find quotes from the people celebrating, and post them here. If the quotes indicate that they believe he is guilty of the bombing, then you have a case that they support a terrorist.
It really, really shouldn’t be difficult.
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Supporting a terrorist is supporting terrorism regardless of the motive for that support.[/quote]
No, its not.
God dammit.
Ok, let me try to frame this in a way you can relate to.
Lets say a priest is charged with molesting a child. You look at the case, and you honestly believe the man is innocent. However, he is convicted. After a while he is released from prison, and you attend a gathering based around supporting his release because you believe he didn’t do it.
Now, in that scenerio, would it be fair to say that you support pedophilia?
No. Of course not. Because to you, you are just supporting an innocent man being freed.
Do you get it yet? Maybe a little? Maybe?[/quote]
So you are saying that the Libyans reviewed the facts of the case?[/quote]
DD - your case shouldnt be hard to prove. Just read all those articles you posted, find quotes from the people celebrating, and post them here. If the quotes indicate that they believe he is guilty of the bombing, then you have a case that they support a terrorist.
It really, really shouldn’t be difficult.[/quote]
Actually, the same goes for your case. Prove they were there celebrating a man they thought was innocent.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Supporting a terrorist is supporting terrorism regardless of the motive for that support.[/quote]
No, its not.
God dammit.
Ok, let me try to frame this in a way you can relate to.
Lets say a priest is charged with molesting a child. You look at the case, and you honestly believe the man is innocent. However, he is convicted. After a while he is released from prison, and you attend a gathering based around supporting his release because you believe he didn’t do it.
Now, in that scenerio, would it be fair to say that you support pedophilia?
No. Of course not. Because to you, you are just supporting an innocent man being freed.
Do you get it yet? Maybe a little? Maybe?[/quote]
So you are saying that the Libyans reviewed the facts of the case?[/quote]
DD - your case shouldnt be hard to prove. Just read all those articles you posted, find quotes from the people celebrating, and post them here. If the quotes indicate that they believe he is guilty of the bombing, then you have a case that they support a terrorist.
It really, really shouldn’t be difficult.[/quote]
Actually, the same goes for your case. Prove they were there celebrating a man they thought was innocent.[/quote]
You’re really…reeeally bad at this.
You made a claim. I’m challenging your claim. You have the burden to back your claim up with evidence.