Twenty-Five U.S Military Officers

[quote]jeffdirect wrote:
It would be impossible for an ordinary fire resulting from an airplane crash to destroy or obliterate all of those critical time-change parts or their serial numbers. I repeat, impossible.
[/quote]

How about a plane crashing full speed into a building, which then explodes into a huge fireball and has the building crash down on the wreckage? Has he considered all of that?

And who says the stuff was not recovered in some form?

If a plane did not hit the Pentagon, where is the plane and the people on it?

If your black ops have lined a skyscraper with explosives, why hijack planes at all? Why not just detonate the bombs already in place?

Were the Arabs caught from the other Tower Bombings in the 90’s also black ops agents? Who were they?

The lying scumbags that made loose change get owned here.

What makes someone be a “truther”? Is it a mental imbalance or are they evil?

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:

The lying scumbags that made loose change get owned here.

What makes someone be a “truther”? Is it a mental imbalance or are they evil?[/quote]

Zap,
I think you are onto something here; no one could be this stupid naturally; you have to work at it. At least limbic and jeffdirect, if they have rudimentary forebrains, just be more crazy and evil than just stupid.
May I refer to eye-witnesses of the Flight 77 crash:
[i]
The Pentagon is bordered by Interstate 395 and Washington Boulevard, on the side where the impact occurred. Steve Riskus witnessed the plane crash into the Pentagon, as he was driving along Washington Boulevard and stopped to take photographs moments after the impact.[25] Mary Lyman, who was on I-395, saw the airplane pass over at a “steep angle toward the ground and going fast” and then saw the cloud of smoke from the Pentagon.[26] Jim Sutherland, also on I-395, witnessed the plane pass 50 feet overhead, heading in a straight line into the Pentagon.[27] Mary Ann Owens, of Gannett News Service, was stuck in traffic near the Pentagon when she saw the airplane pass 50 to 75 feet overhead and crash into the Pentagon.[28]

Another witness, Daryl Donley, saw the crash as he was driving on Washington Boulevard. Among debris that was scattered as the plane crashed, he found a “scorched green oxygen tank marked ‘Cabin air. Airline use’” on the road.[28] Mr. Donley also had a camera with him, and took some of the first photographs after the crash.[29] USA Today reporter Mike Walter, while driving on Washington Boulevard, also witnessed the crash.[30] He recounted to CNN, “…looked out my window. I saw this plane, the jet, American Airlines jet coming. And I thought, this doesn’t add up. It’s really low. And I saw it. It just went �?? I mean, it was like a cruise missile with wings, it went right there and slammed right into the Pentagon. Huge explosion.”[15]

Lloyd England’s taxicab hit by a lightpole as American Airlines Flight 77 passed low over Washington Boulevard and crashed into the Pentagon.
Terrance Kean, who lived in a nearby apartment building, heard the noise of loud jet engines, glanced out his window, and saw “very, very large passenger jet.” He watched "it just plow right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico.

And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere."[31] Terry Morin, who worked at the nearby Navy Annex, saw the airliner pass 100 feet overhead, moments before it crashed into the Pentagon.[32] Passengers aboard a Washington Metro train heading to Ronald Reagan National Airport also saw the crash and explosion, including Allen Cleveland who explained [he] “looked out the window to see a jet heading down toward the Pentagon.”[16] AP reporter Dave Winslow recounted, “I saw the tail of a large airliner. … It plowed right into the Pentagon.”[33] Tim Timmerman, who is a pilot himself, noticed American Airlines markings on the aircraft as he saw it hit the Pentagon.[34] Commander Mike Dobbs, who worked at the Pentagon, was on an upper level of the outer ring, looking out the window when he saw the crash.[27]

Other drivers on Washington Boulevard, Interstate 395, and Columbia Pike, as well as people in nearby locations such as Pentagon City, Crystal City also witnessed the crash.[26]
[/i](from Wiki–it took 30 seconds to find)

But Zap, I am having second thoughts. jeffdirect is a lunatic (and a despicable liar), but limbic must truly be suffering for lack of a superlative expression of his stupidity… Here he is, with time to spout a fountain of crap, but he is too lazy to actually look up a single fact–he is asking me to provide it for him!

Hey, Limbic, call your mummy and daddy and tell them they raised an imbecile unworthy of the $40 bucks they spent on an education.

Zap, Ignore these worthless ass-boils, and perhaps they will revert to their origins in the sewers.

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:

The lying scumbags that made loose change get owned here.

What makes someone be a “truther”? Is it a mental imbalance or are they evil?

Zap,
I think you are onto something here; no one could be this stupid naturally; you have to work at it. At least limbic and jeffdirect, if they have rudimentary forebrains, just be more crazy and evil than just stupid.
May I refer to eye-witnesses of the Flight 77 crash:
[i]
The Pentagon is bordered by Interstate 395 and Washington Boulevard, on the side where the impact occurred. Steve Riskus witnessed the plane crash into the Pentagon, as he was driving along Washington Boulevard and stopped to take photographs moments after the impact.[25] Mary Lyman, who was on I-395, saw the airplane pass over at a “steep angle toward the ground and going fast” and then saw the cloud of smoke from the Pentagon.[26] Jim Sutherland, also on I-395, witnessed the plane pass 50 feet overhead, heading in a straight line into the Pentagon.[27] Mary Ann Owens, of Gannett News Service, was stuck in traffic near the Pentagon when she saw the airplane pass 50 to 75 feet overhead and crash into the Pentagon.[28]

Another witness, Daryl Donley, saw the crash as he was driving on Washington Boulevard. Among debris that was scattered as the plane crashed, he found a “scorched green oxygen tank marked ‘Cabin air. Airline use’” on the road.[28] Mr. Donley also had a camera with him, and took some of the first photographs after the crash.[29] USA Today reporter Mike Walter, while driving on Washington Boulevard, also witnessed the crash.[30] He recounted to CNN, “…looked out my window. I saw this plane, the jet, American Airlines jet coming. And I thought, this doesn’t add up. It’s really low. And I saw it. It just went �?? I mean, it was like a cruise missile with wings, it went right there and slammed right into the Pentagon. Huge explosion.”[15]

Lloyd England’s taxicab hit by a lightpole as American Airlines Flight 77 passed low over Washington Boulevard and crashed into the Pentagon.
Terrance Kean, who lived in a nearby apartment building, heard the noise of loud jet engines, glanced out his window, and saw “very, very large passenger jet.” He watched "it just plow right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico.

And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere."[31] Terry Morin, who worked at the nearby Navy Annex, saw the airliner pass 100 feet overhead, moments before it crashed into the Pentagon.[32] Passengers aboard a Washington Metro train heading to Ronald Reagan National Airport also saw the crash and explosion, including Allen Cleveland who explained [he] “looked out the window to see a jet heading down toward the Pentagon.”[16] AP reporter Dave Winslow recounted, “I saw the tail of a large airliner. … It plowed right into the Pentagon.”[33] Tim Timmerman, who is a pilot himself, noticed American Airlines markings on the aircraft as he saw it hit the Pentagon.[34] Commander Mike Dobbs, who worked at the Pentagon, was on an upper level of the outer ring, looking out the window when he saw the crash.[27]

Other drivers on Washington Boulevard, Interstate 395, and Columbia Pike, as well as people in nearby locations such as Pentagon City, Crystal City also witnessed the crash.[26]
[/i](from Wiki–it took 30 seconds to find)

But Zap, I am having second thoughts. jeffdirect is a lunatic (and a despicable one, at that), but limbic must truly be suffering for lack of a superlative expression of his stupidity… Here he is, with time to spout a fountain of crap, but he is too lazy to actually look up a single fact–he is asking me to provide it for him!

Hey, Limbic, call your mummy and daddy and tell them they raised an imbecile unworthy of the $40 bucks they spent on an education.

Zap, Ignore these worthless ass-boils, and perhaps they will revert to their origins in the sewers.[/quote]

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
jeffdirect wrote:
It would be impossible for an ordinary fire resulting from an airplane crash to destroy or obliterate all of those critical time-change parts or their serial numbers. I repeat, impossible.

How about a plane crashing full speed into a building, which then explodes into a huge fireball and has the building crash down on the wreckage? Has he considered all of that?

And who says the stuff was not recovered in some form?

[/quote]

So…
… a fireball will destroy ( melt ?) the engines…who were designed to burn in their chambers this very fuel who destroyed them…

The same goes for the landing gears…crushed by the debris falling on top of them…

WOW.

I find it funny that these asshats™ won’t even respond to me, they can talk a lot of shit about what they think military personal think but once one calls bullshit they try to act like they didn’t say shit.

[quote]jeffdirect wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
jeffdirect wrote:
It would be impossible for an ordinary fire resulting from an airplane crash to destroy or obliterate all of those critical time-change parts or their serial numbers. I repeat, impossible.

How about a plane crashing full speed into a building, which then explodes into a huge fireball and has the building crash down on the wreckage? Has he considered all of that?

And who says the stuff was not recovered in some form?

So…
… a fireball will destroy ( melt ?) the engines…who were designed to burn in their chambers this very fuel who destroyed them…

The same goes for the landing gears…crushed by the debris falling on top of them…

WOW.

[/quote]

Exactly one of my points: they are trolling.

Another option is that they are gloating over the fact that it was a federal investigation on federal land and haven’t divulged all findings as they would be expected to. That also is a form of trolling. They are trying to jam American thought process.

The question for this day as well is, Why do they feel so comfy here on T-Nation? lol

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:

The lying scumbags that made loose change get owned here.

What makes someone be a “truther”? Is it a mental imbalance or are they evil?

Zap,
I think you are onto something here; no one could be this stupid naturally; you have to work at it. At least limbic and jeffdirect, if they have rudimentary forebrains, just be more crazy and evil than just stupid.
May I refer to eye-witnesses of the Flight 77 crash:
[i]
The Pentagon is bordered by Interstate 395 and Washington Boulevard, on the side where the impact occurred. Steve Riskus witnessed the plane crash into the Pentagon, as he was driving along Washington Boulevard and stopped to take photographs moments after the impact.[25] Mary Lyman, who was on I-395, saw the airplane pass over at a “steep angle toward the ground and going fast” and then saw the cloud of smoke from the Pentagon.[26] Jim Sutherland, also on I-395, witnessed the plane pass 50 feet overhead, heading in a straight line into the Pentagon.[27] Mary Ann Owens, of Gannett News Service, was stuck in traffic near the Pentagon when she saw the airplane pass 50 to 75 feet overhead and crash into the Pentagon.[28]

Another witness, Daryl Donley, saw the crash as he was driving on Washington Boulevard. Among debris that was scattered as the plane crashed, he found a “scorched green oxygen tank marked ‘Cabin air. Airline use’” on the road.[28] Mr. Donley also had a camera with him, and took some of the first photographs after the crash.[29] USA Today reporter Mike Walter, while driving on Washington Boulevard, also witnessed the crash.[30] He recounted to CNN, “…looked out my window. I saw this plane, the jet, American Airlines jet coming. And I thought, this doesn’t add up. It’s really low. And I saw it. It just went �?? I mean, it was like a cruise missile with wings, it went right there and slammed right into the Pentagon. Huge explosion.”[15]

Lloyd England’s taxicab hit by a lightpole as American Airlines Flight 77 passed low over Washington Boulevard and crashed into the Pentagon.
Terrance Kean, who lived in a nearby apartment building, heard the noise of loud jet engines, glanced out his window, and saw “very, very large passenger jet.” He watched "it just plow right into the side of the Pentagon. The nose penetrated into the portico.

And then it sort of disappeared, and there was fire and smoke everywhere."[31] Terry Morin, who worked at the nearby Navy Annex, saw the airliner pass 100 feet overhead, moments before it crashed into the Pentagon.[32] Passengers aboard a Washington Metro train heading to Ronald Reagan National Airport also saw the crash and explosion, including Allen Cleveland who explained [he] “looked out the window to see a jet heading down toward the Pentagon.”[16] AP reporter Dave Winslow recounted, “I saw the tail of a large airliner. … It plowed right into the Pentagon.”[33] Tim Timmerman, who is a pilot himself, noticed American Airlines markings on the aircraft as he saw it hit the Pentagon.[34] Commander Mike Dobbs, who worked at the Pentagon, was on an upper level of the outer ring, looking out the window when he saw the crash.[27]

Other drivers on Washington Boulevard, Interstate 395, and Columbia Pike, as well as people in nearby locations such as Pentagon City, Crystal City also witnessed the crash.[26]
[/i](from Wiki–it took 30 seconds to find)

But Zap, I am having second thoughts. jeffdirect is a lunatic (and a despicable liar), but limbic must truly be suffering for lack of a superlative expression of his stupidity… Here he is, with time to spout a fountain of crap, but he is too lazy to actually look up a single fact–he is asking me to provide it for him!

Hey, Limbic, call your mummy and daddy and tell them they raised an imbecile unworthy of the $40 bucks they spent on an education.

Zap, Ignore these worthless ass-boils, and perhaps they will revert to their origins in the sewers.[/quote]

Now here the “Doctor” needs to prescribe some of his namesake to himself, lol.

Did I once say I didn’t think an airliner impacted the pentagon? What I question is the government’s handling of inquiries about it and its publishing of findings.
The real problems for the government is with the FAA/Air Force responses: there’s the meat.

Doc, fight your tendency to describe the inertia that pins your bum to the throne. Rise up! Spout no more! lol

Your pseudo-fire is for entertainment purposes? lol

[quote]Limbic wrote:

Doc, fight your tendency to describe the inertia that pins your bum to the throne. Rise up! Spout no more! lol

Your pseudo-fire is for entertainment purposes? lol[/quote]

I think we can count you among the mentally imbalanced truthers.

[quote]Limbic wrote:So…
… a fireball will destroy ( melt ?) the engines…who were designed to burn in their chambers this very fuel who destroyed them…

The same goes for the landing gears…crushed by the debris falling on top of them…

WOW.

Exactly one of my points: they are trolling.

The question for this day as well is, Why do they feel so comfy here on T-Nation? lol[/quote]

They don’t.

It’s a job.

On about just every internet forum you will find them.

A year ago, they were after truthers like us. Now they gang up on Paul’s supporters.
Normal service will be resumed after the elections.

What it all boils down to is that there were numerous questions left unanswered and enormous secrecy surrounding the events of 9/11. Creating a cloud of cover and leaving crucial elements ignored is going to spur alternative theories.

You have to love it when the president agrees to interview with a commission only in private without any type of recording device while the VP holds his hand. Creates a real environment of trust with the public.

[quote]jeffdirect wrote:
Limbic wrote:So…
… a fireball will destroy ( melt ?) the engines…who were designed to burn in their chambers this very fuel who destroyed them…

The same goes for the landing gears…crushed by the debris falling on top of them…

WOW.

Exactly one of my points: they are trolling.

The question for this day as well is, Why do they feel so comfy here on T-Nation? lol

They don’t.

It’s a job.

On about just every internet forum you will find them.

A year ago, they were after truthers like us. Now they gang up on Paul’s supporters.
Normal service will be resumed after the elections.

[/quote]

hahaha

So true. haha

[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Oh…my…God. 25 military members? Gentlemen, we have a consensus.

mike[/quote]

Former…even better.

Yo, Jeff, who says?

Conspiracies within conspiracies.

Amazing.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

Conspiracies within conspiracies.

Amazing.[/quote]

Nobody told you Conspiracies don’t exist ?

Or rather, they do exist; only when the culprits are muslim or black and the victims are occidental or white .

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
Oh…my…God. 25 military members? Gentlemen, we have a consensus.

mike

Former…even better.
[/quote]

You…got that right.

[quote]jeffdirect wrote:

They don’t.

It’s a job.

On about just every internet forum you will find them.

[/quote]

Sweet, where can I send my resume? I could use a little extra dough.

[quote]jeffdirect wrote:
So…
… a fireball will destroy ( melt ?) the engines…who were designed to burn in their chambers this very fuel who destroyed them…

The same goes for the landing gears…crushed by the debris falling on top of them…

WOW.

[/quote]

What about the video tape and witnesses who said a plane hit the building? Are you saying that because no traces of landing gears or engines that you know of have been recovered (according to you) the various video tapes of planes slamming into skyscrapers are also fake?

How about the video of Atta in the airport, also fake? Not him? What?

[quote]jeffdirect wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
jeffdirect wrote:
It would be impossible for an ordinary fire resulting from an airplane crash to destroy or obliterate all of those critical time-change parts or their serial numbers. I repeat, impossible.

How about a plane crashing full speed into a building, which then explodes into a huge fireball and has the building crash down on the wreckage? Has he considered all of that?

And who says the stuff was not recovered in some form?

So…
… a fireball will destroy ( melt ?) the engines…who were designed to burn in their chambers this very fuel who destroyed them…

The same goes for the landing gears…crushed by the debris falling on top of them…

WOW.

[/quote]

Here’s one engine pic for you. Apparently not a melted puddle…