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What in his his labs show hyper?

Now:
T4 is 1.71 ng/dL. 0.82-1.77
Triiodothyronine (T3), Free 4.0 pg/mL. 2.0-4.4
TSH 3.390 uIU/mL. 0.450-4.500

A few months ago:
TSH 2.070 uIU/mL. 0.450-4.500
Reverse T3, Serum 21.3 ng/dL. 9.2-24.1
Triiodothyronine (T3), Free 3.6 pg/mL. 2.0-4.4

I said with these new values and the latest values, it looks like it could be early onset hyperthyroidism.

It is VERY rare to see someone with thyroid valures like this and all the scientific literature I quickly looked at says that a high FT4, FT3 and High TSH could be early stages of developing hyperthyroidism.

I even said that I might be wrong and to please inform me if I am wrong so that I can learn from it instead of being a moron.

My problem is you have posted on literally every single thread today that someone has a thyroid problem when it’s plain as day that you have no clue about anything. Some poor soul is going to read what you’re saying as fact and fuck themselves up. My problem is YOU. Let me know if that’s not clear enough.

Before you get butt-hurt click your own account and look at the list of your posts from the last 24 hours and tell me how many folks you’ve diagnosed with hypo/hyper thyroidism today alone.

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Well it is true, unless you believe you are only allowed to say someone has hypothyroidism only if a doctor has so.

I really hope you have never said to someone that they had low T unless they actually had less than 280ng/dl on at least three different appointments.

Why don’t just argue against me and tell me how wrong I clearly am?

Come on, you don’t need to write a complete book about this. Just get to the point.

@kratom_dumper
You don’t know what you are talking about is the issue. Thyroid is way too complex to be able to diagnose with any certainty from half-assed labs. Testosterone is not near as complex. It’s your T low? Do you have low T symptoms? Is getting on TRT going to have negative effects because of some already existing problems?

You read STTM. Great! But going and telling people that have no clue about anything that there problem is 100% RT3 is stupid (you posted that earlier). If you didn’t post that shit on literally every single thread then I’d just live with it but you did.

Stop diagnosing every single thread with a thyroid issue.

Everything I know of hyper is suppressed tsh with elevated t3 and t4 without meds. I would think above range also with t3 and t4. So in no way does he seem to have hyperthyroid from what I understand from these labs.

Well, then that is my bad since I read the scientific paper not correctly. And worse case scenario he just does an extra blood work.that proves he doesn’t have.Grave’s.

The question now is what is this?.I have never seen such a high value of FT4 and.FT3 with a TSh of 3

So just because problems with the thyroid/adrenal glands are more complex than testosterone, I am.not allowed to.have an opinion?

I am not diagnosing and I don’t expect people here seriously believe I am.something kind of doctor. ,.I am.just saying what it mostly looks like and so far I have gotten good responses (or well almost everyone), anyone is free to.counter.my arguments, and a lot of.people.have asked me to help them. This a group for asking and helping people, not a hospital in which certain people only have the right to help others. How about you start argueeing against one of my comments if you know I have absolutely knowledge to say and you disagree.with.what I say.

And regarding the 100% comment I made, I am.not.surprised you didn’t understand that the RT3 was the main probldm.out of the FT3, FT4 and RT3.

Next time, just say what I said in a comment and tell me why I am.wrong.

@kratom_dumper

You replied to yourself but I’m guessing you are responding to me.

I have read STTM over 100 times. It’s a great resource and I guarantee I have a better understanding of thyroid than it sounds like you do. For the record my RT3 is exactly the same the guy’s whom you said you knew 100% that RT3 was his problem. How is it that my numbers are identical but I’m able to feel great on just testosterone? Thyroid is not as black and white.

I am no way an expert with thyroid so this is just my opinion from how I understand it. To me that says something like reverse t3 is blocking the receptors from the t3 to act on them causing tsh to raise because the body believes it needs more.

Get off your high horse dude…

Saying that the guys high RT3 is not a problem just because you feel great while also having high RT3 is just stupid.

That is like saying that “I know a guy with low testosterone that feels great, therefore low testosterone is not a problem for any guy…”

I know that, but I don’t understand why he has such a high FT4.

It is not normal to have your TSH increased at the same time as your FT3 and FT4 is increased.

It doesn’t seem that strange to me. TSH being a signal to produce T4 and T3, if the body senses it needs more as the receptors are not responding to what is already there, in turn will raise TSH calling for more. To me, it just says his body has no issues producing T3 and T4 right now and just has an issue recognizing what is there. If that is due to rt3 or some other issue I don’t know.

I think there is much more to it because these values are not normal and not just something you should brush off.

Not saying they are normal and should be brushed off. To me he seems hypo, just don’t think they are strange and jump over to hyper.

Yeah, that was a mistake by me saying that he might have hyperthyroidism but it is just as bad saying that there is nothing really bad about these values.

The fact that you don’t understand you’re incorrect is the problem.