Fair enough I was more talking about the partial answers/teasers.then I would kindly re ask the question and get nothing.almost like I was being f-ed with.I get that its just out of kindness that people help.I just don’t get if your going to take the time to answer.why not a full answer.thats what made me think maybe its because I’m trying to avoid trt.I’m kind of at loss for my next move.but the good news I feel fine.I’ll consider myself lucky.and keep looking. Peace
[quote]chazman wrote:
Fair enough I was more talking about the partial answers/teasers.then I would kindly re ask the question and get nothing.almost like I was being f-ed with.I get that its just out of kindness that people help.I just don’t get if your going to take the time to answer.why not a full answer.thats what made me think maybe its because I’m trying to avoid trt.I’m kind of at loss for my next move.but the good news I feel fine.I’ll consider myself lucky.and keep looking. Peace[/quote]
Newsflash genius…nobody here is getting kickbacks for putting people on TRT…its not some big elaborate conspiracy to get you to stick yourself with needles a few times a week…
The people here that are trying to answer questions are doing the best we can to help as many people as we can…given the recent rise in new members posting here (due to our google hits going up) this has become a rather difficult task…nobody is intentionally teasing you or fucking with you…
It doesn’t help that you can’t take the time to format a grammatically correct paragraph or bother to post your lab ranges in a way that it is easy to go over them…or even go through the stickeys here and ask questions, and maybe investigate treatment options other than whatever obscure methods your doctor is using…
We are not here to spoonfeed
And calling knowledgeable posters out for not catering to your every whim is not a very good way to endear yourself to the community as a whole…
Sorry just frustrated.as far my posts being hard to read.its the best I could do from my phone.I don’t have access to a normal computer.and even though the triptorelin has only worked so/so for me.my guess would be that’s there’s some guys on trt that it would work well for.I’m still a little surprised there wasn’t more interest.I’ll repost if my test.results keep improving.otherwise I’ll just stay on this side of the bridge I burnt
The reason there hasn’t been a lot of interest is because noone here is very up to speed on your restart protocol…the ones that know a bit about your symptoms and issues have already weighed in…
You seem to be on the right track with your Test improving, but none of us have a crystal ball…given your previous issues, I would speculate that this is transient, but I hope for your case that it is not and you continue to see improvements.
As far as your repeated questioning of whether you are still “shut down”, nobody here can answer that. You weren’t in total “shutdown” mode before–you were still producing. You seem to be producing quite a bit more now, but still nowhere near optimal. If you feel fine with the levels you are producing, then that should be the end of your journey.
Chase symptoms not lab numbers!!! This is your main goal and if your QOL is great, who cares what the labs say…I said this in one of my initial posts to you…keep track of things every so often, especially if you FEEL like you start regressing to see what the culprit is…otherwise, get on living your long, happy life…
Clear as bell. Thank you
chazman - if you’re still around the forums - curious to know how you’re doing now and how the triptorelin worked out for you long term. It looks like you had 200mcgs?
[quote]chazman wrote:
I was given .2mgs(2preloaded syringes)[/quote]
The abstract everyone refers to of the study on the bodybuilder treated with this stuff only mentions a single dose of 100mcgs. On my reading of your thread, there’s only mention of blood result improvement after 10 wks from 1st shot - did you also do the second at any point?
Sorry to dig here if you’re feeling long done with this by now, but there seems to be precious little info out there regarding use of this stuff for our purposes
Hey no problem I’ve was just thinking I should get my levels checked.symptom wise my only complaint(even though my levels were terrible)was e.d and who knows if that was related to T levels.I’m back to were if I pop a viagra I’m good to go.and who knows if that has anything to do with the triptoralin.bottom line I will get some bloodwork done.and post results
Glad to hear things seem to have improved somewhat for you chazman. When you do get your labs I would be very interested to see them if you can post. I think everyone here would be interested to see some long term results that might suggest the efficacy of triptorelin, or lack thereof. I hope for you, that your T levels have also improved along w/ your apparent sense of wellbeing
Hi ppl, I ordered triptorelin (GnRH) 100 mcgs and it came in powder form. I’m lost on how to take it. Please help me out.
[quote]HiredGun wrote:
[quote]Hardasnails wrote:
[quote]chazman wrote:
I was given .2mgs(2preloaded syringes) I’ve been low test sense 2005 and I’m 44.so I know the odds are against me.but the cost of trt would be tough for me.so I decided to try a restart.I get by on low test I think.I’m lean and muscular.happy with my build.dealing with e.d issues is my problem.my only concern is that my lh and fsh were high.but my free test was very low 52.so I don’t know if I was a good candidate for this.that why I want to find out as soon as possible if its working.so my main question. Is 8-10 days after shot.long enough after shot.to get my test.levels checked. Thanks[/quote]
When preping start for a restart it takes a good 4 months to get the nutritional base that they need to increase their chances. I have a few guys that are getting to try a restart and are on TRT. We are checking to make sure everything such as stress management, lifestyle, properl nutritoin, mind set, heavy metals, thyroid, and adrenals are in optimal order before they are ready. Some people want to do a restart right away and we try to do isolate the factor as previously mentioned as quickly as possible so there is nothing which prevent them from starting. I am getting a 44 year old ready prepping him 6 months through proper counseling which is being blogged. [/quote]
So this is an alternative to long drawn out PCT to exit TRT ?
Seems like it would just shut you down from this blurb, I must have something backwards because the above post showed it was effective within a month.
“Triptorelin (acetate or pamoate), a decapeptide (pGlu-His-Trp-Ser-Tyr-D-Trp-Leu-Arg-Pro-Gly-NH2), is a gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist (GnRH agonist). By causing constant stimulation of the pituitary, it decreases pituitary secretion of gonadotropins luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH).”
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Yes, triptorelin is usually used to chemically castrate men who have androgen dependent cancers, so the correct dosing and correct formulation (e.g not sliw release) are crucial.