What’s your take on California license holders with the illegal alien license being registered to vote. It’s happened 1500 times that California has admitted to.
I personally think the arguments around felons voting or not is fascinating. I don’t know where I come down to be honest.
I wasn’t aware that was a thing, but I’m strongly opposed to it.
I lean towards revoked voting rights while in prison, with reinstatement once out
I can’t access my constitutional right to own a firearm without ID. I can’t access my right to peacable assembly/free speech without ID (protest permit). I can’t access interstate commerce without an ID. It is a very small hurdle for voting.
If you can’t get a government ID, then you probably can’t figure out where to vote anyway. You’re probably homeless. Every poor person on benefits (or social security) has an ID.
Me too, but then violent felon? Someone is a convicted murderer or rapist and does 20 years… I just can’t get there. You “voted” that you didn’t want to be a member of society when you committed heinous violence.
You know as soon as that law came up for votes they’d show pictures of some cute young mother of 4 who was slain and then show an inmate who’s up for parole for killing her: “do you want HIM voting?!”
Agreed. I’m very happy to accept a middle ground of tying voting to a list of easily obtained voter ID cards, assuming it’s not a voting specific card
Also assuming with it comes the govt sponsorship/funding of those cards for certain people, as to remove the bait of disenfranchising poor/old people.
Are they not subject to the law once they’re released?
Then they should have been given a life sentence.
Well, they are subject to the law in jail too. I’d be inclined to restrict voting all the way through parole as well. Once that’s over, then they can vote again.
This was the opinion of the Uk’s electoral reform commission, who doesn’t have a dog in the US fight.
They are subject to a type of law, but let’s not pretend like it’s US law.
My sister spent a week in county jail after getting caught with a roach a few years ago. Some woman beat the piss out of someone for something and she got 2d in isolation or whatever it’s called.
You wouldn’t get 2d if you did it on main Street
Best comment.
Shit… You know what I meant lol
More natural than Trump talking about the Bible, or pretty much anything.
But it’s a sign of the times that we over-analyze everything a politician does or says. If she had farted I wonder how that would have been measured on the scale of sincerity and naturalness. “I think she held it a little too long.” “She didn’t show enough relief.”
Yes. It’s obvious: All politicians are felons.
Ehh…close call.
Incorrect. Trump talks naturally about a lot of things. He likes to talk.
No, he naturally talks about a lot of things.
I’ve always heard that, so I assume it’s at least mostly true. That doesn’t mean requirements beyond sentience are a bad idea.
Fair play? Someone who has never paid a single cent in tax of any kind gets a vote that is equal to that of someone who pays millions in taxes each year. Fair play has no place in this conversation.
Someone who lost a leg in a war protecting that millionaire’s right to not fight in that war (among other things), but profit off it, gets a vote that is equal to that millionaire. Fair?
And if there is ever a draft again, who will go first: the millionaire or his kids, or that non tax paying person? Besides, taxation is theft anyway.
No, but perhaps he should get a second vote. I’m game.
This is a strangely anti libertarian stance from you.
Why does the tax revenue paid in have an impact on whether or not you should be party to determining the laws of the country you live in?
Edit: also how do said people avoid all taxes? I don’t recall waiving sales tax when I was poor as dirt
If that has ever happened, that person is one dumb MF’er. I mean, if that is the reason you join the Military then losing a body part is the least of your problems.
No clue.
It is; especially when the taxpayer’s vote is equal to that of the non-taxpayer
No, it’s not.
For the same reason my wife and I determine the rules in our home but not the neighbor’s.
If your earned income(that is, money you’ve earned from employment…hell, even investment or inheritance…not money that’s been taken from others and given to you)=$0, then you can’t pay sales tax.