Without splitting hairs, a lifetime in Washington DOES qualify you for POTUS (at least in the senses that matter). Historically, we’ve seen POTUS with foreign country experience, a basic understanding of the process by which laws are created, and a general amount of common sense about the correct time to be an asshole.
We sacrificed those things because of all the positives Trump was supposed to bring (not owned by lobbyists, business experience, etc).
It’s like we agreed to buy a car that drove like shit because it gets 120 mpg and we REEEEALLY wanted some fuel efficiency. Then we sign the papers and drive it off the lot with 1 gallon in the tank and only make it 20 miles.
I mean… I think most of them were general assholes actually. They just knew how and went to play the game to seem like it was the “good” or “right” kind of asshole.
But no, I’m not arguing your point at all…
We’ve got at least 3 years of this to go. While I think what happens in 2020 (or 2024) will go along way in framing it, it will be interesting to see what history has to say…
Sure, not going to argue, but even Obama made the point of “you can’t change Washington from the inside”.
We have such a huge, just down right enormous, bureaucracy to wade through, the idea any one person can change that is pretty absurd right now, imo.
Unless I’m misunderstanding what you mean when you say “everyone to have access to the best healthcare possible,” I think it’s self-evident that it is unaffordable.
I agree that there is certainly an anti-socialist “sentiment” among Americans. Even most Democrats aren’t where Bernie is. But if you look at where our policies stand theres a great deal of “spreading the wealth around”.
We spend over $2 trillion in transfer payments alone. That’s with a GDP of $18.5 trillion. So we already have plenty of public assistance, but it could be done much better.
I’m talking more about the kinda asshole that inevitably has to call his bodyguards when he mouths off at a bar. The guy that arbitrarily calls some woman fat and gets his ass beat.
Which is what makes the stance he ran on of “accept my shitty side because I can drain the swamp” that much more annoying. It’s not like the concept of 1 guy taking on Washington was something everyone believed in until it was too late. Millions of people knew he was full of shit.
This just in on the disputed content of Trump’s remarks to the widow of one of the soldiers killed in Niger:
"Jones-Johnson [the widow who spoke to Trump], speaking to The Post via Facebook Messenger, declined to elaborate.
But asked whether Wilson’s [the congresswoman] account of the conversation between Trump and the family was accurate, she replied: “Yes.”
My comment: The most regrettable, heartbreaking aspect of all this is that this poor widow–mother to two young children, 6 months pregnant with another–has to put up with all this extraneous nonsense during what must be the absolute worst period of her life. She can’t even grieve in peace–her mourning is now a political football.
We’re completely fucked as a country sometimes. Yes I’ll include myself in that collective in this instance, because it’s pretty sick what this now is.
Irrelevant of what he said, or if he called at all, a lot of people lost sight of the important parts of this story (you pointed out a huge one) to score political points. And now “journalists” are going to make it even worse than it was.
Some of the issue here with this, is that the criticisms of trump are so partisan and over the top sometimes, it makes it impossible to NOT defend him.
I literally can’t stand the guy, think he’s ineffective and I don’t trust him. We got a quality SCOTUS judge out of him and at that point I figure his election isn’t a total loss.
But I don’t hate him. I’ve stopped hating Obama, and if you could have known the deep and bitter loathing I had for Bush43 you’d be utterly baffled by the fact I can appreciate him and his years in some ways.
Maybe I’m getting older, maybe I’m swinging back left (although I maintain I didn’t leave the left, the left, left me.) I don’t know, but I don’t have it in me to be angry and hate on as much stuff anymore. I mean commies, rapists and other near-do-wells yeah, but politicos… I’d rather not participate in the bullshit, and talk about real issues now.
So that’s why I find myself actually sticking up for this dipshit. Because the left just turned around and is acting like the GOP from 2008-2015, and the loudest anti-Obama folks on the right are justifying absolutely everything Trump does that they would have lost their mind over when Obama did it.
Most people it seems tie their personal identity, not just political identity to a letter next to a name, and will right now, while a lot of the defense of trump from the right is despicable, the attacks from the left are, at times, mind bogglingly stupid and over the top.
Exactly. Wouldn’t be great if everyone–Trump, his supporters, his detractors, the MSM, everyone–all agreed that, out of respect for the fallen and his family, they would self-impose a moratorium on addressing this story for, say, 6 months?
I appreciate your candidness and agree that the left’s knee-jerk reaction to some issues is way over the top. However, we’re beyond the pale here. It is almost on a daily basis that Trump does or says something that is simply unacceptable for this office or this country.
Pick any single transgression over the past 10 months that you deem worthy of headlines and consider if either Obama or Clinton had done the same (e.g. what’s happened today; Trump’s recent suggestion to muzzle/shut down media orgs that publish negative stories about him, etc.) and we would be up to our eyeballs in investigations over that single, solitary issue. There was a time when tan suits and dijon mustard were major stories on the right.
Saying all politicians lie is an acceptable statement. Saying “Obama did it too” as akin to what Trump does on a near-daily basis is a false equivalency. Those on the right are way too quick to throw that out there and it only exacerbates the problem. We are in wholly uncharted waters here.
As someone who made my transition from hard left to hard right during the Obama years, having been in both bubbles, I can say, without a doubt, the freak-out on the left right now happened on the right on a daily basis too. The difference being the ideological bent of the Legacy Press being center left, if not just left.
Is trump an asinine clown? Yup. Are a lot of things he says cherry picked and taken out of context? Yup. Is he vague on purpose so he can always try and say “that’s not what I mean?” Maybe, don’t know.
Let’s not forget our past here. Andrew Jackson & the trail of tears? Japanese Internment? Sedation Act of 1798.
Trump says dumb shit. Trump lies. Trump likely will go down as a poor POTUS if not a total failure (if I was to project from “thus far”) but until he orders a Wounded Knee, we’re pretty fucking far away from “unchartered waters” man.
It’s only impossible for overly partisan people. That’s why I’d love to see Zeb in action lol. For normal people it’s pretty easy to judge things on a case by case basis.
I’ve seen dozens and dozens of people on the left commend people on the right for speaking out against Trump. And that’s just people I know personally.
Nope. If I had to guess, I’d say he realized there are far too many things wrong with Trump and his identity is tied so strongly to his political leanings so he bowed out until the “real” GOP returns.
Yes and I’ve seen plenty of leftist and democrats shit all over Obama when he made a mistake too.
Not sure what you’re getting at here.
The tribalists switched sides as it pertains to “what I’ll ignore and what I’ll get upset about with the POTUS”. Not sure how anyone can disagree with that.
Or people that want to seek the truth or have a reasonable discussion.
If you can’t see some of the critical things said about trump are over the top and approaching true “trump derangement syndrome”, full of spin and cherry picked I don’t know what to tell you. But rational people would in fact be forced to defend against that nonsense, if they actually cared about truth.