Exactly.
What’s that? You were there STRICTLY for the statue and in no way have negative opinions that would align yourself with Nazis? Tough shit. Perception drives reality, welcome to the universe.
If you march with Nazis, it’s because you support Nazis. If you march with ISIS, it’s because you support ISIS. If you march with PETA, it’s because you support PETA. It’s not difficult to understand.
@loppar - what is the story/context on the bottom picture? What group is he standing with?
Another excoriation by The WP’s resident conservative opinion writer Jennifer Rubin:
Republicans, cut the outrage. It’s time to disown Trump.
"The party of Lincoln is now the party of Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis and Southern slave owners who decided to kill fellow Americans so that they could keep men, women and children enslaved. The Republican Party, in other words, has obliterated its entire historical legacy and become the party of the Enemies of Lincoln.
And let’s be clear: Republicans cannot say, “That’s not us — that’s just President Trump.” They supported him, they elected him, they defended him and they gave him the aura of a normal presidency. They cannot be the party of Lincoln and be the party of Trump. In that vein, we can dispense with Republicans’ “outrage,” “frustration,” “anger” and all other meaningless expressions of internal sentiment. Unless and until they are prepared to do something — not just send tweets — to politically disown Trump, the party is toast and none of its members should be elected or reelected."
How does Trump come back and not be a one term President? We love to reelect people even when not overly liked and Democrats seem in disarray and without leadership. Even with that going for him it’s becoming hard for me to see him being re-elected. Dems won’t be running anyone as unlikeable as HRC. And by the time it gets there who is left?
This is worth a watch (especially the latter half):
The more one digs up about Gorka the worse it looks.
I can’t find much details written in English, but this one is sums the key elements. The picture was taken at a launch of a failed political party by Gorka (left) and a certain Tamas Molnar (right). I’ll c/p directly from the article below because this is simply too good not to quote.
For reference, Jobbik are fascists/neo-Nazis (see torch-lit procession above). The people Gorka associated with wanted to call the Iranian Revolutionary Guard to Hungary to “solve the Jewish question” and wanted to compile and publish a list of all Jews in Hungary “for reasons of public safety”.
Also, the guy on the right was receiving funding from Islamic charities linked to extremism. Pretty ironic considering the future stance of the “security expert”
Mr. Sebastian Gorka is certainly familiar with Jobbik since in 2007 he founded his Hungarian political movement with Mr. Tamás Molnár, the ex-vice-chairman of Jobbik. Mr. Molnár later warmly praised Gorka in an article published by kuruc.info, a California-registered Hungarian neo-Nazi website which was investigated by the FBI. Mr. Molnár was a regular contributor.
When evaluating the credibility of people in high office, it is acceptable practice to examine, who are the official’s friends and associates, how the official treats the values that are a sacred trust in a democracy. Mr. Gorka spent more than 15 years in the company of neo-nazis, anti-Semites, and actually founded a political party with his friends in 2007, who only a few years ago, have advocated that Hungary should secure stronger ties with Iran and Putin’s Russia against the “New York-Tel Aviv axis of Jewish bankers.”
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He does it because the DEMS 1) have no message and 2) are not connecting with the electorate.
Being “anti-Trump” only strengthens his support. Add to that no message…and viola…Trump is “Making America Great Again” for another term.
Also…something else I’ve noticed. Liberals vote when they are excited about someone…Conservatives when they are pissed off. (In general…and that’s just MY opinion…).
And if there is one thing that a Demagogue like Trump knows…it’s how to appeal to pissed off people…
Trump will win re-election if he runs. One thing I’ve learned, people don’t actually give a fuck what a President does. They only care about what he says he’ll do.
Imo I think the “message” will be much easier this time around. Trump was a wildcard before. HRC had DECADES of political blunders to cite, plenty of very recent/fresh wounds to pick at. Without HRC’s history of failures, Trump crashes and burns hard. Shit the guy couldn’t even come close to getting the pop vote.
This time the shoe gets to be on the other foot. It’s not being “Anti Trump” anymore. Now it’s “Anti Nazi,” “Anti Nepotism,” etcetc. (convert this to pro “not nazi” or pro “hire people that have earned it” if you want). The guy already has SCORES of mistakes to pick at, in the same way he did to HRC.
Fortunately for Trump, he has the ultimate fallback of actually succeeding at something important. As you like to say, only Trump can bring down Trump. He’s yet to even contemplate starting the wall, has made no meaningful impact on the budget, hasn’t brought America closer, hasn’t drained the swamp in the slightest, hasn’t released his tax returns, etcetc.
All he really has to do is succeed on a single major talking point and his odds of getting re-elected go way up. With the route we’ve gone down so far, I’m not super worried he’ll pull that off.
Re Trump’s re-election prospects: Y’all are forgetting one very important variable–Mueller. I’m a nobody, with no (real) money or business history to speak of. But I shudder at the thought of being the subject of full attention for Bob Mueller, 16 of the country’s most talented and motivated prosecutors, and the investigatory power of the FBI. If I had Trump’s checkered business history, that thought would make me faint.
And I think that’s a very big reason Trump seems to become more unhinged by the day.
I’m with Fury on this one in terms of his re-election prospects, and will go a step further: unless Trump makes a complete 180 (lol), I anticipate the GOP will primary someone against him. I still don’t believe he’s going to make it to the end of the term but, if he does, I think this is a very real possibility.
Yep. That, along with the fact that (IMO) he hates being president.
I think this one depends entirely on how well he’s doing in the ~1 year before the process starts. If he’s doing at least half decent (for Trump), I doubt they’ll risk giving the Dems the ammo that is someone being actively pushed against the incumbent of their own party.
It’s important to remember that many of the high level Republicans in Congress just genuinely HATE the democrats at this point. After all the toxicity under Obama, they’d love nothing more than to stick it to the Dems at every turn.
Also good to remember the odds of the GOP losing control of Congress this cycle is essentially zero. From what I’ve seen (not a ton) support levels for Republican congressmen is still doing pretty well, especially when compared to Trump’s. People are still going to show up to vote for whomever they think can help keep Trump in line.
Agree, pfury.
Add this to the disarray of the Democratic Party…and as I said; we will be “Making America Great Again” for at least 8 years.
(Note: to ED’s point; throughout all the Tweets and Vitriol…Mueller continues to work quietly behind the scenes).
This just hit (all speculation of course):
The DEMS had best be listening to Trump’s supporter’s.
It is apparent (and I think that Trump knows this as well as anyone); that the more he lashes out at “them” (you pick it…the media, anyone who disagrees with him, etc.)…the stronger and more entrenched his support becomes.
If EVER there was a true “Teflon” President…Trump is it.
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If there is one thing that Trumps knows how to do…it’s to campaign and to stir shit up.
While Kasich is a great Legislator, for sure…he couldn’t stir water in a blender.
He’s disposed of Kasich once. If Trump makes it to the point of running again, he disposes of any challenge like the proverbial yesterday’s garbage…
I know I’m repeating myself, guys…but it bears repeating…
Only Trump brings down Trump…
EVEN IF the Muller Investigation finds something…it will all be blamed on “them” trying to get Trump.
No. Trumps base was never that big. They won’t leave him but he won’t win with just them.
Obamas approval rating right before the election was around 51%.
Trump is sitting at 34% right now not even a year in.
Obamas lowest Gallup approval rating was 40%.
Romney was at 49% and LOST before the election. And though the electoral college wasn’t real tight many battleground states were.
Trump is not going to face anyone like Hilary who had historically low favorability (only Trump was lower). People hoped Trump would change. He hasn’t.
I honestly can’t see a scenario barring some type of massive turn around by Trump or the Democrats running someone who ends up being enrolled in a massive scandal
