If this guy is correct, Trump might have a problem.

If this guy is correct, Trump might have a problem.
Thank you it is what I do.
Maybe. Then again maybe they were given too light of a sentence and became repeat offenders like the thug Michael Brown…and others. Some people really seem to not be able to walk around free without stealing or harming other people. And there is no color barrier on that comment.
I agree, but why do they commit a disproportionate number of crimes against their own race? In addition to that why do black males impregnate their female partner(s) and then flee the area? Do you really think that having almost 70% of black children growing up in a household without a positive male role model is not a huge part of why blacks commit crime disproportionate to the rest of the population?
This has nothing to do with police bias against Blacks
We’ve tilled this ground before my friend. In certain parts of the country police fear young black males. And why do they fear young black males? Because young black males have a high propensity to commit violent crime. They also seem to riot and loot quite a lot. This criminal and aberrant behavior places them in a high risk group. Therefore, when a police officer pulls over a young black male he is on his guard. Does he want to tangle with said black male? NO. What is the upside of doing so? It’s all negative. A physical confrontation which may result in the officer getting harmed. The officers name being run into the ground by the leftist media. A possible internal investigation.
What does the cop really want to do? He wants to do his job and go home safely to his family. What do some (I say some) black males do? They do not comply. Why? Because they have been raised in a home with no positive male role model laying down the law and conditioning the young black male to follow orders. Thus they are not used to complying with a Police Officers orders. They then rebel and of course the police cannot back down and then the young black male is harmed in some way.
It’s a sick and very sad cycle.
Just a quick glance and you can see the totals are different. His is 905k and yours is 6,485k. That’s obviously a factor.
The two separate sources could very easily define violent crime differently. We had a long discussion year about violence in the UK v. Violence in America and the main sticking point was how the UK and the US defined violent crimes. The UN actually provided a consensus report that controlled for this, but that wasn’t good enough for some posters.
I follow you, however the table came from the AMREN article previously posted interestingly enough.
That suggests to me that poor people are more likely to be involved in homicides. What does it suggest to you?
Before clinging to that statement I think we should check the crime rate of poor white people. Go ahead take a look and let me know.
Thank you
White law abiding citizens are actually doing more harm to minorities than criminals.
LOL…Hahaha
Intense or passionate dislike is the definition and by that definition her quotes seem to fit that category. What exactly was true in those quotes? That African Americans came from Africa because nothing else she said was true. How do you think she would feel if Native Americans told her she should go back to where she came from because she has essentially overstayed her welcome, and reaped enough prosperity from America? Do you think she might qualify that as hate?
I guess you might be considering the whites being overlords as truth? Or maybe its Mexicans raping their family members. Everything she said in those quotes would be considered hate by the definition.
“When contacted for comment, Heidi Beirich, a director of the Intelligence Project at the SPLC, told Yahoo News that Nawaz spread conspiracy theories about Muslims infiltrating places like Scotland Yard and television networks.”
He was a member of a Muslim terror group that did just that. He details in his memoirs how he, along with a group of pre-ordained radicalisers, overtook a university Islamic club and started a sectarian riot.
He is a practising Muslim, for Chrissakes, if that qualifies for a mention as an anti-Muslim extremist, I’d hate to see what they’d classify Christopher Hitchens or Douglas Murray as.
EDIT: This was no small thing either, a black student was stabbed and killed with a fucking sword.
Before clinging to that statement I think we should check the crime rate of poor white people. Go ahead take a look and let me know.
Thank you
“For the period 2008–12—
Persons in poor households at or below the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000).
Persons in poor households had a higher rate of violence involving a firearm (3.5 per 1,000) compared to persons above the FPL (0.8–2.5 per 1,000).
The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks. However, the rate of violent victimization for Hispanics did not vary across poverty levels.
Poor Hispanics (25.3 per 1,000) had lower rates of violence compared to poor whites (46.4 per 1,000) and poor blacks (43.4 per 1,000).
Poor persons living in urban areas (43.9 per 1,000) had violent victimization rates similar to poor persons living in rural areas (38.8 per 1,000).
Poor urban blacks (51.3 per 1,000) had rates of violence similar to poor urban whites (56.4 per 1,000).” [emphasis mine]

(You’re welcome.)
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Intense or passionate dislike is the definition and by that definition her quotes seem to fit that category. What exactly was true in those quotes? [/quote]
“In 1960 whites were 90% of the country. The census bureau recently estimated that whites already account for less than two-thirds of the population and will be a minority by 2050.
This is a fact
Other estimates put that day much sooner. One may assume the new majority will not be such compassionate overlords as the white majority has been.”
Only in the West is anti-racism practised. In other countries Racism and supremacism is openly practised and sometimes even encouraged.
Take a look at how Arabs treat minorities in their countries or how non-Western minorities are seen in Japan.
This is my impression as to what she’s referring to.
“There’s a cultural acceptance of child rape in Latino culture that doesn’t exist in even the most dysfunctional American ghettos. When it comes to child rape, the whole family gets involved.”
I know for one Latin countries have disturbingly low age of consent laws. One example is Mexico where the age of consent is 12. I’ve also heard about the outskirts of Mexico city are known for being filled with dead raped women. I think they even colloquially refer to these areas as dead women body drop (or something like that)
“And that’s another thing,” Coulter continued. “We all know where African-Americans come from, right? Africa is, in fact, their homeland.
Fact that you agree with
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The whole world knows the story of how they got here – the whole slavery thing, bla bla etc. Don’t you think they’ve had enough of the American dream? Don’t you think it’s time for them to leave America to the people who actually made it great?”[/quote]
This I cannot explain but I would like to know the context of where this is coming from. Got a clip of the interview?
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That African Americans came from Africa because nothing else she said was true. How do you think she would feel if Native Americans told her she should go back to where she came from because she has essentially overstayed her welcome, and reaped enough prosperity from America? [/quote]
If you want to discuss feeling that’s fine, but this is really not the forum for it. How someone feels in the context of this forum is not something I particularly care about
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Do you think she might qualify that as hate? [/quote]
If they are lies for the purpose of slandering a group, I would qualify that as hate. But again arguments stand and fall on their own merit.
If a white separatist groups makes an argument against affirmative action, I’m not allowed to dismiss the argument because it originated from the mind of a white separatist. The argument has to be faulty in of itself.
You strenuously believe the SPLC made a mistake in how they classified these individuals. Fair enough. I won’t belabor the point further except to say that even if they over-reached in this regard, prior to declaring that doing so ‘severely diminish their historical reputation,’ I would respectfully suggest you familiarize yourself with that history.
You strenuously believe the SPLC made a mistake in how they classified these individuals. Fair enough. I won’t belabor the point further except to say that even if they over-reached in this regard, prior to declaring that doing so ‘severely diminish their historical reputation,’ I would respectfully suggest you familiarize yourself with that history.
Look, I appreciate the good work they have done, nor am I suggesting that they should be ignored. But if they can tilt at windmills as here, and offer no mea culpas, it does mean I will have to check their justification on certain cases more thoroughly.
But in any event, I am happy to agree to disagree, and I will certainly take you up on your suggestion to research them more thoroughly.
I like to get other people to do my work for me whenever possible. You did a good job ED. If you were in the area I would certainly consider using you as my Ophthalmologist. That is if my eyes were not perfect from performing eye exercises for over 10 years.
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Spoken like a gentleman, for which I am appreciative. (Sincere compliment, not snark.)
That is if my eyes were not perfect from performing eye exercises for over 10 years.
I dunno…I think I can detect the beginnings of cataracts from here…And is that a little extra eyelid skin drooping over the temporal aspect of your orbits? If you’ll let me do a blepharoplasty, I guarantee you’ll look 10 years less curmudgeon-ly. ![]()
ED I didn’t know you were also an oculoplastic surgeon. You must be doing very well when you are not giving away your services.
As for me I probably look about 15 or so years younger than my real age…according to my wife and friends. So I don’t think I’ll be going under the knife any time soon.
But, if I were to have such serious surgery I would definitely want someone to do it who is able to defend Obama and the left as well as you do. One must be exceptionally smart and agile to defend such incredibly lousy policies.
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Took some searching
The AMREN stats and charts did from DOJ and are an average of 2012-2013. The chart you asked about was taken from National Review by AMREN. Here is a link to DOJ page.

Number disparity appears to be: I listed arrests and this DOJ Stat sheet includes threatened and incomplete acts of violence. Makes one wonder how often violence is intimated and no call to the police is made.
Maybe. Then again maybe they were given too light of a sentence and became repeat offenders like the thug Michael Brown…and others. Some people really seem to not be able to walk around free without stealing or harming other people. And there is no color barrier on that comment.
Michael Brown didn’t have a criminal record, even in his Juvenile records reporters sued for. Come on, Zeb I expect better than libel, even of a dead criminal.
In terms of a light sentence…do you think longer sentences associate with better outcomes??
Laws and policies designed to deter crime by focusing mainly on increasing the severity of punishment are ineffective partly because criminals know little about the sanctions for specific crimes.
More severe punishments do not “chasten” individuals convicted of crimes, and prisons may exacerbate recidivism.

Does punishment prevent crime? If so, how, and to what extent? Deterrence — the crime prevention effects of the threat of punishment — is a theory of choice in which individuals balance the benefits and costs of crime.
Not to mention that you do slave labor in prison for companies like IBM, Whole Foods, AT&T, even BP…and then get out of jail and can’t get the same job…because they’re paying people $.15/day to do it in prison. So…what happens when you get out?? You go back… lol
Within five years of release, about three-quarters (76.6 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested. Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year.

Recidivism is measured by criminal acts that resulted in rearrest, reconviction or return to prison with or without a new sentence during a three-year period following the person's release. Recidivism research is embedded throughout NIJ-sponsored...
So yes, fixing the underlying causes is critical to fixing the problem.
They literally pay poor people to stay home (black and white). How many times do we have to learn that an action that is rewarded is often repeated…Psychology 101. How has LBJ’s great war on poverty worked out over the past 50 years? More people in poverty today than ever before. The failed democrat President Lyndon Baines Johnson began it and every President that allowed it to continue both democrat and republican owns a share of it. Six words would solve this problem: MAKE PEOPLE WORK FOR THEIR MONEY!
I agree with this, in reference to workfare vs welfare.
They literally tell minorities that the country is unfair to them and it is impossible for them to succeed.
The sad part is, I think you truly believe this.
So when something is not your fault you cannot correct it. That is a huge disservice that they are doing to the minority community. It literally saddens me.
I’m not exactly sure where you got this from either. I’ve never interpreted such a message from any politician. I have interpreted from Democrats that Republicans are evil racist bigots you should never vote for, but never what you said.
I agree, but why do they commit a disproportionate number of crimes against their own race?
Is this a serious question? Why do White people commit a disproportionate amount of crimes against their own race?
In addition to that why do black males impregnate their female partner(s) and then flee the area?
I was actually talking to my wife about this last night. But “flee the area” is an unfair characterization because if you impregnate someone and go to jail…you can’t really be there to raise a child.
Seeing as black Males make up 35% and 37% of jail and prison inmates respectively, that’s a lot of men gone.
Why are so many Black men in prison? Well…that’s a much longer story…with many factors involved…one that you wouldn’t even read so…no reason to type it. It doesn’t affect you so you don’t have to be concerned with. But that’s the main cause behind the shit-storm today.
I would also mention a lack of birth control (because obviously if you’re poor and you have to chose between food and condoms, you buy food Black, White, Brown, Whoever) and not taking on the responsibility of such risks.
And of course we have mainstream hip-hop in it’s current state. There’s some great hip-hop out there but it ain’t on the radio.
More suburban white kids listen to it than poor black kids, but they don’t go home to a reality that looks like what is described in the songs. It further reinforces that you should be either a basketball player or a drug dealer, have sex with a ton of women, and marry no one. And we don’t even own the means of production/distribution of most of it, so it’s not like we can just chose to shift the paradigm, though I think with Spotify and the Viral nature of the internet it’s becoming more do-able.
Do you really think that having almost 70% of black children growing up in a household without a positive male role model is not a huge part of why blacks commit crime disproportionate to the rest of the population?
This is true, but can be overcome through mentorship until we fix the underlying problems. There are many groups that do this on a local basis but ultimately you can’t save everyone.
In certain parts of the country police fear young black males. And why do they fear young black males? Because young black males have a high propensity to commit violent crime.
You could stick me anywhere in the country and I’d fear a police officer because their word is law…even if they’re in the wrong. They can get away with whatever they like. I know you, an upstanding-high earning-conservative wouldn’t understand this so I won’t type any further.
Does he want to tangle with said black male? NO.
Never said anyone did…in fact I said that bias is implicit and unconscious…and then provided evidence of such.
This article explains why Mexico meddled in the US election, why a Mexican billionaire turned the NYT into an anti-Trump hit piece organization and why racist was so heavily thrown around.
Mexico is heavily propped up by the US
Its citizens in the U.S. sent back nearly $25 billion last year, its second-largest source of foreign income, after manufactured goods and ahead of oil. Much of that ends up in impoverished rural communities like the ones here in the southern state of Oaxaca, which for decades have dispatched young and old to El Norte in a deep-rooted ritual of economic betterment.

From her stall featuring regional delicacies — chile-infused dried grasshoppers, juicy white worms from the maguey plant and handmade chocolates, among other edible fare — 63-year-old Eufenia Hernandez issued a challenge to U.S.
Took some searching The AMREN stats and charts did from DOJ and are an average of 2012-2013. The chart you asked about was taken from National Review by AMREN. Here is a link to DOJ page.
Criminal Victimization, 2013 (Revised) | Bureau of Justice Statistics
Number disparity appears to be: I listed arrests and this DOJ Stat sheet includes threatened and incomplete acts of violence. Makes one wonder how often violence is intimated and no call to the police is made.
Interesting! Threatened and incomplete…thanks for figuring that out. I noticed the survey after looking around but I couldn’t figure out the “victimization.”
I would say it’s better in some cases to be violent (i.e fight someone) and not call the police, if it could be settled after that…but that simply isn’t how it goes. Inevitably someone’s honor is harmed and they must seek revenge.
This article explains why Mexico meddled in the US election
How, exactly, did Mexico ‘meddle in the election’?