Here we go as predicted almost on cue a stooge shows up,. And what does he say? Does he try in any way to defend his cohort specific point? NO. He tries to distract from the argument at hand.
By the way TB doesn’t need a “boost” with a lackey like you around. And if you think you can win an argument by reminding me that I once ran a foul of T Nation rules think again. You actually have to have a legitimate argument or you need to shut up.
You tried this line of nonsense to get out of your asinine statement that I called known conservatives on this board “left leaning liberals” when they attacked Trump. It didn’t work then and it won’t work now.
No, I am literally making the exact same argument as above in my quote - you are trying to downplay Trump’s dishonesty via the “hey, all politicians lie, we just shrug our shoulders, whatever” because he is a Republican. You did it for Republicans during the election, and you’re doing it now for Trump, the Republican President.
No goal posts have moved. I am saying the exact same thing as I was earlier, as expressed in my quote above.
We have already established that I had this attitude toward all politicians BEFORE anyone thought Trump would get the nomination. Therefore, your defense that you are “making the same argument” is in fact FALSE.
Your new argument encompasses ALL republicans. And that does not defend your original assertion that I was now downgrading all politicians because Trump was President.
By the way for historical purposes I was having a discussion with ED when you jumped in and leveled your false assertion against me. Once again you began the argument not me.
Incorrect - as I explained earlier, you only had this attitude once it came time to support Republicans for office. Before, Obama lying was bad and harmful, not whatever. 2016? It’s just something politicians do, pay no mind to Republican candidates if they happen to do it.
That’s been my argument the whole time, hence my initial post on the matter to ED. Nothing has changed, your usual inability to follow an argument notwithstanding.
Well, I am shocked - shocked! - that someone would toss insults when they have no argument. We certainly wouldn’t want anyone to start tossing insults.
^the above all occurred on a single thread and took about 5 minutes to compile, lol.
I have an argument, if you just bother to read it, but in reply to this comment - when you elect to act like an ass, which is frequently, we take the opportunity to remind you that you are a discredited fraud around these parts. So, since you can’t not be a discredited fraud - that ship has sailed - you may endeavor at least not to be an ass.
You posted this nonsense the last time that I caught you lying about my comments. Not the least bit impressive. I suppose the next time that you don’t have a pertinent answer to an argument you will post it a third time?
What would really be impressive is if you could come up with comments about me calling other known conservatives on this site “left leaning liberals”. That was the lie you posted and couldn’t back up.
You may have explained it but that was not your original accusation. And no matter how many times you try to drive this in a different direction it won’t work.
Your assertion was that the only reason I am now claiming politicians are liars is because Trump is President. And as we have both agreed I have said this long before Trump even got the nomination.
That makes your accusation FALSE as it cannot be defended by fact.
Again…you are wrong TB. And you just can’t stand it.
Incidentally, it was actually @Aragorn who posted “this nonsense” (which is entirely your own posts quoted verbatim, lol) last time, but I’ll happily post samples every time you whine about someone ruining a good, productive discussion with insults, the insinuation being that Ol’ Honest Zeb would never stoop so low as to use something as grievous as insults when he had no argument.
And we did go over this…
It was indeed my mistake; you called them “Hillary supporters” instead of “left leaning liberals.”
Also, it will never, ever, ever, ever stop being funny when the person that had a dual account for nine years accuses other people of “lying” on a forum.
I’m generally the best source to explain my own accusations, and I’m here to confirm my argument hasn’t changed at all.[quote=“zeb1, post:6434, topic:223365”]
Your assertion was that the only reason I am now claiming politicians are liars is because Trump is President. And as we have both agreed I have said this long before Trump even got the nomination.
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Incorrect - I’m saying you’re doing that now to play defense for Trump, but I’m not saying you started doing this with Trump. Rather, you started during the election - before the election, it was “Obama lied and lies are the worst!!!” - and, fast forward to now, you’re still doing it, because we have a notoriously dishonest Republican in the White House.
And everyone reading understands what I’m saying - except you, apparently.
Apparently you are not all that bright. I never said the above. I was referring to you constantly avoiding the argument.
Well at least you admitted that you made a mistake. Unlike your leader TB who NEVER EVER admits when he is wrong. And by the way he is wrong frequently.
And just to stroll down memory lane, don’t forget the way Zeb tried to spin his decade-long fraud - not by fessing up and being contrite, but by adopting a fully sniveling Clintonian spread-blame-around evasion.
Oh, I’m plenty wrong, and when I am, I can admit it. And here is a perfect example - I was wrong to ever take you seriously. That was a mistake I made. My apologies to you and to every one affected by my clear mistake in judgment.
Hoo Ha ha ha that is a good one! Excellent. You went from trying to move the goal post to now saying you’re the referee.
Keep this up it is a amusing. Honestly I just had a great belly laugh and I thank you.
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I’m saying your doing that now to play defense for Trump, but I’m not saying you started doing this with Trump. Rather, you started during the election [/quote]
Yes, this is your new argument I get it…please stop it’s nutty. One final time (I hope) This was not your original accusation.
These quotes (excerpts) are from your original post to ED.
Yes, your argument is certainly that.
I think this one time it might be best to admit that you are wrong.
Yep it was totally me. Of course, Zeb came back here in this thread saying ‘I never said the above’. Well, that’s technically true, he never said those words…verbatim. The nice thing about an insinuation though is that one doesn’t need to use the explicit phrases verbatim, and there have been a good number of times he’s insinuated he’s not keen on insults. Which, of course, is completely bollocks as his posting history of the last 10 years or more illustrates. Many of us were here then and we recall just fine.
Yep, and as explained numerous times, it started before Trump was elected - he’s just the beneficiary now that he’s won. But the point is, it’s a new tactic we didn’t see when Obama was in office.
It’s not that complicated. But I do thoroughly enjoy you - you - trying to accuse someone of not being straightforward. Now, that’s a belly laugh.
It never fails if you argue with TB ActivitiesGuy and Aragorn are not far behind…as I predicted.
Aragon to my recollection you give as well as you get. But I will say that I have tried to do better as of late with most posters. Of course I have to set all of that aside for the three stooges.
