Glad the POTUS is focusing on the really important stuff…and by that I mean Schwarzenegger’s Apprentice problems…
Graham’s comments:
Thanks for the link. Very puzzling opinion piece.
I will say that the accusations are running so rampant on both sides, I find it difficult to discern truthful news.
Picking a left and right source to find a median is impossible, when I can’t believe either is being forthright. It’s like the entire news and social media are gaslighting the public. I know what my values inform me as which side that I ‘should’ believe is true, but don’t discount that people are devious, evil, or outright stupid in some of their actions.
Semi related - watched that movie a couple of weeks ago - Gaslight.
Assuming you mean gaslighting, I see classic signs of that coming from Trump directly, not the media (not sure about social media).
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I don’t know if Obama tapped Trump tower but Obama was caught tapping AP journalists and he also wiretapped Merkel.
Based on that it wouldn’t surprise me
Hooray
Yes Gaslight - had a brain freeze there.
I think the media led by Bezos’ WaPo is throwing out everything that any devious mind can conjure of and presenting it as fact, as a deliberate means to try to get the public to turn on Trump and 90% of his cabinet.
You have seen case after case of unsubstantiated crap screamed across their masthead, retweeted/linked 1000s of times, and then quietly retracted/corrected. These are not mistakes, poor editing. They are deliberate attempts to cause every supporter to turn and join the mad dogs that radical liberals have become. Frankly Bezos et al don’t care if there is a US anyway. So if the country must be destroyed for him to win this seemingly personal vendetta, so be it.
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I think Trump is throwing out everything that any devious mind can conjure of and presenting it as fact, as a deliberate means to try and distract the public from the Russia scandal.
You have seen case after case of unsubstantiated crap screamed across his Twitter feed, retweeted/linked 1000s of times, and never retracted/corrected. These are not mistakes, poor editing. They are deliberate attempts to cause every supporter to turn against the media and their reporting on the Russia issue. Frankly Trump doesn’t care if there is a US anyway. So if the country must be destroyed for him to win this seemingly personal vendetta, so be it.
Fixed it for ya. 
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People are not use to a Republican who actually fires back at attacks. For the last 3 decades the Democrats have on been offence while the Republicans are consistently on defence. This is the first time in a very long time where the Democrats are on defence (notice their hashtag is #resist, sounds pretty defensive).
Expect Trump to continue to keep the Dems on their heels. “Unhinged” is the new leftoid speak for “I have no idea how to respond to an attack.”
For a sitting POTUS to simply make up accusations of impeachment-level crimes on the part of his predecessor goes well beyond ‘firing back.’
If he continues to do this, especially in light of the ever-burgeoning Russia scandal, he will lose the support of his own party.
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He never had the support of the Republican party. The party elites HATE him. He has called them out as well as Dems.
About the allegation the Obama NSA/CIA illegally wiretapped Trump’s phones or surveiled him beyond a FISA warrant. That is 100% possible. If the Snowden treason taught us anything it’s that the surveillance state does whatever they want (under Bush and Obama) FISA courts be damned. They surveil everyone, all the time. No warrants necessary.
This gamesmanship is actually impressive from the Trump camp on this. This allegation changes the narrative entirely. It allows him to attack the CIA/NSA with moral authority. It also has a good chance of being true and would allow him to gut the agencies going after him.
It’s reminiscent of him sitting down with Bill Clinton’s rape accusers when the media invented women Trump harmed. It completely changed the conversation and nuetralized the issue.
No Republican has ever fought back against the politics of personal destruction before. They bow their heads and repent before the media. This is a new strategy, one the dems and their lapdog media have no answer for yet.
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This couldn’t be more wrong - he’s made the accusation, and now he has the burden of proof. You can’t simply accuse a former president of such lawbreaking casually - and there is no “oops, nevermind” on the other side of this.
He’s stepped in an awful mess. Did Obama (or someone in his administration) spy on him without FISA approval? Show us the evidence.
Trump may be trying to change the narrative off the Russia fiasco, but all he did was create a new, imminent fiasco.
Oh, and the Trumpkins need to make up their mind - if the public truly doesn’t care about this Russia stuff, why is Trump so desperate to change the subject?
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Agreed. This appears to be another distraction attempt that is likely to blow up in his face. It reeks of “Yeah? Well I’m gonna demand an investigation too!”
The issue is not whether it is possible; the issue is whether the claim is based on anything resembling actual evidence. And it is simply unprecedented and beyond the pale for a POTUS to publicly accuse the previous POTUS of a crime of historic magnitude without simultaneously presenting overwhelming evidence in support of the charge. Such a public accusation is the sort of thing that occurs at the end of an investigation, with the POTUS flanked by representatives of the investigative agencies that provided the evidence leading to the accusation. At that announcement, the POTUS would soberly lay out the evidence supporting the accusation, and describe the criminal proceedings that would follow.
Edit: And needless to say (one would think), the POTUS would not follow up his historic accusation of criminal activity on the part of his predecessor by snarkily commenting about Arnold Schwarzenegger and The Apprentice.
If you are truly ‘impressed’ that a sitting POTUS–one whose campaign, transition and administration teams are suspected of committing extremely serious acts of collusion with a hostile foreign power–has cynically ‘changed the narrative’ by hurling wholly unsubstantiated accusations against the previous POTUS…With all due respect, sir, that speaks volumes about your values, and where your loyalties lie. I would hope that, upon reflection, you would reconsider this assertion.
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Sean Spicer’s announcement in this regard is telling:
“Reports concerning potentially politically motivated investigations immediately ahead of the 2016 election are very troubling,” Spicer wrote. “President Donald J. Trump is requesting that as part of their investigation into Russian activity, the Congressional intelligence committees exercise their oversight authority to determine whether executive branch investigative powers were abused in 2016.”
He concluded, “Neither the White House nor the President will comment further until such oversight is conducted.” [emphasis mine]
In other words, Spicer has laid the groundwork for the POTUS and admin to deflect all questions concerning these outrageous, baseless charges until/unless Congress investigates–which it likely won’t do, as there is no evidence to warrant such an investigation. So in short, Trump gets to have his cake and eat it too–he gets to make the accusation but never have to answer any questions about it.
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Deleted my post of Ben Sasse as Tyler beat me to it.
While I disagree with his politics, Ben Sasse strikes me as a sincere, patriotic American who puts country over party.
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