Well Loppar, you are a pretty worldly guy, so this may not come as a shock to you, but here it is-
Our protest crowd, especially the feminists, are just really fucking stupid. They don’t even know what the words that they use mean, and really aren’t going to catch on to something as oblique as the why of a hijab being a symbol of oppression in the middle east.
They’re just a bunch of reactive idiots separated from real problems by two generations and at least one social strata with no idea how truly fucking wonderful their lives actually are.
Correct. I don’t expect rioting crowds with signs and rocks to get the subtly of that.
I agree, but as in the cold war this is a political move. Including Iran in that list proves it to me. Iran may support terror, but Iranians are not typically terrorists. So to me it appears flexing of muscle, so to speak as they all are. A determined person can get in, one way or another and will not be deterred.
No. I reckon the people forget the travel bans with Eastern Block countries pre -1990. You couldn’t just hop a flight out of JFK to Prague. To get my grandparents over from Czechoslovakia took calls to embassy’s both Czech and American, they had to get approval from the Communists and the U.S., it was ‘extreme vetting’ at it’s finest. We’re talking 70- somethings living in a Czech backwater who never did anything to anyone. It took a year and a pile of money to complete the process and finally get them here for a visit. They certainly were not a threat , but it was tit-for-tat. The USSR did a traval ban, we did too.
I think it’s a political show. Telling the world there is a new sheriff in town, in case the didn’t get the memo and ‘Yeah, we can do what we want.’. In short, I think it’s just a show of force.
No shit… This is the type of thing that has driven me nuts for years with SJW’s. They get their nose out of joint over the littlest thing, but ignore major violators of human rights if they so happen to be also considered a minority. If they are forced to treat women as second class citizens they should pull out of the country, otherwise they are contributors to the problem. The Saudis need a kick in the ass, not coffee.
To make idiotic policies like ‘No child left behind’ because 2nd graders in India do high level calculus of course and we’re so far behind, yet their country is mostly a shit hole and the U.S. is mostly not.
The broken clock here will probably be right for the second time.
Rinse Penis has been slithering all over DC, promising a conservative SCOTUS pick to every Rightist special interest for a year now. All he asked in exchange was that they debase themselves by surrendering everything from their dignity to their morality in order to support for the highest of Earth’s high offices a reality-TV clown stupid enough to propose that the United States adopt as standard operating procedure multiple forms of war crime, including al-Qaeda’s position on the acceptability of systematically targeting the enemy’s family and the humiliatingly laughable proposition, repeated during the Real Housewives Memorial Wall Roadshow, that we ought to steal oil from our Iraqi allies who are fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with JSOC and SOG operators as I type this.
The Right-wing interests sold their souls, and Rinse Penis should be sure to render the service upon which was agreed. Mind you, all this comes at utterly no cost to Trump, who, having the IQ and education of a russet potato, not only doesn’t care about the Constitution but doesn’t understand even the most basic things about its contents & operation. I doubt he even has a clear sense of how a principled Justice might obstruct his political project in its full unrelenting idiocy.
So: Trump acts like a real president for a day, on an issue he doesn’t remotely understand & about which he doesn’t give a quarter-fuck…and those “conservatives” who haven’t already lost all interest in things like the ongoing espionage investigation suddenly find quislingism that much more ideologically enticing.
That picture is so fucked up… Using a symbol of oppression by painting it like our flag does not make it suddenly ok to put women in bags. Until the hajib can be a choice for the woman their cultures and societies then its a symbol of oppression.
Every time you try to argue against that particular “conspiracy theory,” you immediately faceplant and then fall silent. So if you’re right that Loppar has no case, you must be the stupidest poster in the history of PWI.
By the way, the phrase “conspiracy theory” does not apply to a matter on which a task force comprising the best of the United States intelligence community has satisfied the requirement to demonstrate probable cause before a judge.
The whole department is just a mess, it doesn’t really matter the administration. I think, really in the end is they fail to ask and task the people who understand education the best, the teachers.
This is one department that would be better served as a committee by the people who actually do the work.
This notion of punishing or prospering the teachers based on the kids performance on standardized tests is really messed up. This automatically screws every teacher working in a title 1 school, because those kids come from mostly broken families who are rolling up to pick up their kids with a blunt betwixt their lips, in cars where the wheels are worth more than the car… ← This is an actual, not a hypothetical. My wife works at a title 1 school. It’s crazy how little these parents care. It’s unimaginable to most of us, but they really just don’t give a shit.
These parents ain’t invested in their children’s education, hence you could be the best teacher in the world and your standardized tests scores are going to suck. So punish the teachers, because these kids will not excel.
Women in America who wear the hijab do so strictly as a matter of choice. Thus, it is not a symbol of oppression here in the US. Which is why the co-mingling of the Stars and Stripes and the hijab has resonated with so many people (here and abroad) as a potent image of American values.
My SIL teaches at a school with a different spin on what you described (which sounds like an, um, let’s call it an “urban” school). Her environment is a more rural, lots-of-families-in-trailers-living-on-welfare school. She has a couple stories that all boil down to the same thing: the kid’s parents place absolutely zero value on their education, so by eighth or ninth grade (when she sees them) they pretty much already have their mind made up that they’re dropping out as soon as they can, because they see no need to get an education (since their parents are at home on welfare anyway, that’s all they expect their life to be). Her stories aren’t the sort of violent-horror-stories you might hear at some inner-city schools, but mostly an incredible level of apathy from her students. She’ll pass out a test, see some kids not working, ask them what’s wrong and they’ll reply with something like “I don’t have a pencil” (or more accurately, “I ain’t got a pencil”). One, who goes to school without a pencil - is it really a surprise that you might need something to write with? Two, rather than display the most basic of problem-solving skills and ask the teacher if they might have a pencil to do their work, they would rather just sit there and hand in a blank sheet of paper.
We once had a discussion about standardized testing where, to be honest, I came off like a dick at the time because I tried to play devil’s advocate and say that standardized tests made some sense, there had to be something in place to evaluate teachers and schools, but the more that I’ve learned and thought about it, the less that I think standardized testing is useful for teacher evaluation (I still think they can be a slightly useful piece in college admissions).
This is a (characteristically) stupid demand for you to make in light of all the credible allegations and evidence available to the public – or, at least, to those members of the public not too stuffed up their own asses to manage a Google search.
Money:
Money and kompromat:
Oh, and we know with certainty that the GRU helped elect him with daily, illegal oppo dumps via WikiLeaks, which he then cited ad nauseum:
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The US intelligence community concluded in a declassified report released Friday that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an “influence campaign” aimed at hurting Hillary Clinton and helping Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election.[/quote]
Edit: in before a thernovich-following scumbag who posted here about #spiritcooking impugns the credibility of multiple independent allegations made by the USIC (which, again, satisfied the requirement to demonstrate probable cause, you fucking imbecile), the Financial Times, Paul Wood, CNN, and on and on.
Eh… I’m not so sure on this one. Is it a matter of choice if you were brought up believing that you’re a whore if you don’t wear the hijab?
If you parents have to answer hysterical e-mails from your relatives calling you an infidel whore because you posted a innocuous picture on Facebook without a hijab? (true story from my female business colleague)
Muslim women living in the West aren’t completely free - there’s tremendous peer pressure from family members and I’m not sure that wearing a hijab is strictly a matter of choice.
Agree. Feminists joining in “wear a hijab day” as a form of solidarity has been controversial.
Many American Muslim women feel tremendous pressure from brothers, fathers, husbands, their community to cover. In response to feminists wearing a headscarf for the day, “We’ve escaped societies that force this upon us. Why would the progressives here use it as a sign of female solidarity?”
If it isn’t intrusive, do you mind if I ask which district?
Its just curiosity, because my wife started out at districts like McGuffy, and a friend of hers started in some Green county districst. I went to a couple of typical suburban districts and was just blown away by what they had to tolerate from students, parents, and admin.
The good ole boy network is strong 'round those parts.
In my opinion, the issue of choice turns on whether the government–not an individual’s social circle or culture writ large–compels/requires the hijab. All of us are subject to social pressures to act, speak, dress, etc, in a certain way. We can choose to acquiesce to those pressures, or we can buck them. So it is with Muslim women and the hijab here in America.
By way of a counter-example: Where I live there are a considerable number of Pentecostal Christians who believe that women must 1) never style or color their hair; 2) never wear makeup, and 3) wear modest garb (defined as covering them from the neck to the wrists and ankles) whenever they are in public. (The men face similar, albeit much less onerous, restrictions on how they present themselves.) There is considerable intra-group pressure to conform to these parameters. Despite this pressure, I dare say no one would refer to the women’s unkempt hair, frilly smocks and ankle-length skirts as ‘symbols of oppression.’
tl;dr When it comes to societal pressures to conform, none of us qualifies as ‘completely free,’ and thus this standard cannot reasonably be applied with respect to the American Muslim community and the wearing of the hijab.
I find it hard to believe Trump:(1) two of whose children are Jewish (including Ivanka who is Orthodox); (2) most of whose grandchildren are Jewish, and (3) who has a plurality of advisors who are Jewish is an antisemite or would tolerate antisemitism.
Not to mention, I know first hand he was extremely involved and helpful with the Jewish community in NYC and Israel.
He and Bibi talk with some regularity, and he recognizes the obvious fact Israel can pick its own capital, Jerusalem (which has been a majority Jewish town for ~3,000 years, despite what you hear on the news).
