Oh I don’t think it will last either. I still think, as I said before, It’s going to be an exciting 4 years.
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While I don’t disagree, isn’t it concerning that during the election, he didn’t sound like a grown-up at all but got nominated over a bunch of candidates who did?
He’s shifting language to pull in those who voted against him.
It’s all been by design from day 1.
I am really hoping that you don’t believe that. Trump has been a national figure for about 30 years and has had some pretty outlandish comments that many would think are just a tad childish or let’s say off kilter for an adult. I don’t have to name them certainly you are familiar with the comments that I am talking about. I will say again he is who he is there is no acting involved. And at the age of 70 I doubt that he will be changing any time soon.
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I am really hoping that you don’t believe that. [/quote]
I 100% do.
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Trump has been a national figure for about 30 years and has had some pretty outlandish comments that many would think are just a tad childish or let’s say off kilter for an adult. [/quote]
When I say day 1 I meant from the moment he announced his presidency not prior.
He won 306 EC votes. Is there a better measure than that to suggest he knows what he’s doing?
And for Secretary of Transportation, Trump selects raging anti-establishment figure…
…Elaine Chao?
I am aware that he had a decisive electoral win. And much goes into such an effort. But, to attribute Trump’s brilliance as being the sole reason that he did so well seems somewhat black and white to me. I look at it this way: he was the right man at the right time opposing the perfect candidate in Hillary Clinton who was never going to be elected to the Presidency, (as I said ad nauseam months before the election). Throw in 8 years of Barack Obama who promised everything and delivered nothing and finish it off with an exceptionally good Campaign Manager in Kelleyann Conway and you have Trump’s success.
You made some valid points, but he also crushed the 16 other Republican candidates many of whom speak in the “adult” manner that apparently is best according to some of the people who post here. Why did they get slaughtered?
This is true, the republicans had the advantage since we just had 8 years of a democrat president. It was just a matter of who they put up to run in the primary.
As much as I think Trump is not a good candidate, I remember back during the primary not being impressed with anyone else either. He did have it pretty easy and really only had to make sure he stood out by grabbing all the media attention to win. If Trump is brilliant then you also have to give credit to all the so called idiot celebrities who manage to stay relevant beyond their 15 minutes.
In my opinion it had to do with Trump’s “plain talk” and anti pc language which people across the country are very tired of.
Very well said, good comparison
Example?
Keep in mind the level of his achievement. A nobody politically going up against an aggregate of 200 years of political experience.
Maybe Melania wouldn’t accept??
I had originally put “Don’t really believe it will happen, but like the pic.”
but guess my tablet skills need some work.
It’s a balance to get someone in these Cabinet positions with knowledge of the actual field, management skill, in line with the President, and still not be a career insider. I agree some picks are looking absolutely political (this one, Romney for SOS).
You, I, and everyone else with 3 brain cells - knew that elections are full of empty promises, pipe dreams, and bait and switch. I’m willing to wait and see some actual performance. I still believe Trump does not hold to a ideologue vision where 15 people decide what is good for the rest of us in the commune.
More great news - Trump thinks burning the American flag should be punishable by a year in prison or revocation of citizenship.
I guess he didn’t get the memo that his hero Scalia joined the opinion holding that flag burning in constitutionally protected speech?
Edit: not wrote, but joined. Fixed above.
He’ll still be called a racist for this.
Hey now, I can still whine about those things though. 
Jesus fucking Christ I hope this isn’t his Go-To approach.
Valid point.
True, but he has to kiss a little Lefty ass now too less he wants to be Obama 2.0.
Because most people are party of principle…
I, myself, have been enjoying the complete and total switch of the two sides to almost identical positions. One overly forgiving, and the other overly critical… It’s rather amazing to watch.
I love the childish justification of “well the other side did it, so I’m going to too.”
He doesn’t put a pro-gun justice up there and he can kiss 2020 goodbye.
Maybe conservatism is dead, and we deserve people like Bernie…
You’ll get it by the Dem’s taking control.
I will, but I read libertarian and classical liberal bias more than anything, and the Journal isn’t/wasn’t and likely won’t be a big fan of Trump. I don’t see Rand taking one in the ass for him either, Cruz… I don’t know, he looks defeated after trying to stump the trump.
Fox won’t? Okay… I never listened to them outside of hard news anyway.
Point being, there are plenty of us very excited Hillary lost, and loving the salt from the left, yet utterly depressed at the same time that all that joy means Trump won…
Nah, it makes sense when you look at who he is replacing. Obama can give a great f-ing speech, and always talks “above” the “average joe” in all his speeches and press releases.
I think people heard their buddy from the corner bar in Trump, and loved it for a change.
100% true. Hard for me to not think he’s actually a lot better at this than we all are giving him credit for. He’s done nothing but win, even after the “pussy” tapes ffs.
Insanely, bigly, just the bestly.
This was painfully fucking annoying to read. Was very disappointed. The poor winner way he’s been going after Stein and CNN is annoying as hell too…
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Beans…you do have my permission to whine, my Friend!
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And which is why I can’t get on board with your idea that Trump really is better at this than he get a credit for. He won despite himself, not because of.
This comment is pointless and stupid, and shows he’s completely uninformed on basic civil rights issues. And if he’s just bored and trolling, that’s inexplicable as well - he’s already won, the votes have been cast, there’s no gain in firing up people who think criminal punishment or citizenship revocation is a good idea for flag burning.
There is only downside. But he can’t help himself.
I don’t think that’s possible in a POTUS election to be honest.
I just dont’ think because I find it annoying that majorities agree with me, or it is inherently bad. (I mean, yes limiting freedom is inherently bad, objectively, but that means nothing as most people vote and base their politics on feelings.) So what I’m saying is, he might be tapping into something that doesn’t resonate with ME, but does with many others…
I don’t know man. I thought he’d be laughed off the stage in the primaries, and was 110% sure he’d lose in one of the worst (or best if your left) landslides in election history. I’ve been wrong about him since day one so far, so I have no bases to think I might not be wrong here too, and this shit continues to work for him.
Raj has a point about the culture war for sure.
I’m just as surprised as you, absolutely - but I think the key difference is that it’s the Wave of Populism that caused the election result, not the Man. Trump isn’t the generational leader emerging and winning on his genius or his remarkable strategy - he’s the jellyfish who caught the Wave and is simply riding it.
And he won that way fair and square - but that’s all it is.