We are all in a cheap spy novel now – and it’s one that many editors would refuse to publish on account of its being too far-fetched.
But if anyone on Trump’s team has the slightest hint of intellect, he will shout “fake news,” deny that this is happening (so that therajraj & co. can pretend that he’s actually tough on Russia) and wait until some meaningless Kremlin promise to reduce nuclear stockpiles gives it the perfunctory political cover it needs…
The point is to make this as obvious as possible, so that it crosses into veritable ridiculousness. “Why on the eight day in office he is doing what looks like our bidding! My, my, another extraordinary coincidence!”
We’ll see on Saturday whether the KGB will send a message to the world - that the POTUS is their little bitch.
Congratulations. You know something about a country or two. Some of us survive such amazing experiences without concluding that we are smarter than a group of billionaires or making claims of clarivoyance.
I spent 8 years hearing about the second coming of Jesus or Hitler, now followed by what I suspect will be 4-8 years of hearing about the second coming of Hitler or Jesus. It was fun for a while, but I’ll always be more cynic than true believer. This country won’t come apart because of a single personality. It’s going to come apart when people start believing their own rhetoric. We are dangerously close.
You dismiss it as a kind of one-off from Trump, when it’s his SOP. Insecure outbursts are precisely what he does ad nauseum.
Face it, all the ha-ha-ing about whiney liberals too sensitive to handle anything that disagrees with their worldview can’t credibly be done by a Trump supporter. In addition to everything else they’ve forfeited - credibility, integrity of principles, etc. - making fun of people for being irrationally oversensitive is also part of that list.
A claim as extraordinary as the president and/or his cabinet members commiting espionage and treason requires substantial evidence.
At this point I don’t see much difference between Trump is working for Russia and 9/11 truthers in terms quality of evidence. Well at least 9/11 truthers can establish a motive, there’s no stated motive for Trump to undermine the US in favor of Russia
Key word in that article is “alleged”
Edit : filling in everything that’s unexplained with Russia is an obvious logical fallacy
At least 800,000 illegal votes found
Honestly, do you even read your own links?
“Is it plausible that non-citizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes,” Mr. Richman wrote. “Is it plausible that non-citizen votes account for the entire nation-wide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.”
EDIT: I should clarify, because the article does support your specific quote that there were 800,000 illegal votes cast, so I should not frame my reply as though that isolated statement is invalid. However, the article does not support the assertion that you’ve been repeatedly making: that Trump would have won the popular vote once “illegal votes” were/are removed. It explicitly states the direct opposite.
There’s a good article on Foreign Affairs on this:
I don’t. You’re making what I said and turning it into something completely different. Seems to be the trend with you. Try sticking to the topic I referenced rather than conflating it with something else entirely.
I see. Then I misunderstood you when you said these words:
I told my wife the ideal time to address voter fraud would be immediately after the election.
Why wait until the next election to implement a few common sense actions including:
Why do wonks wants want to make something hard out of every issue?
That said, Trump should shut up and continue working on other things, like that Mexican Wall jajajajaja
Trump is aggressively combatting an adversarial press. I agree it comes of as whiny at times, but the alternative is to do what other Republicans have been doing (largely taking the bias in stride) and it didn’t work. I’m rather intrigued by it all if we’re being frank here. I’m interested in seeing how this plays out over a longer span of time . . . Such as two weeks . . .
It’s certainly fair to criticize some of the right like you did, but Trump has some effort to put in to get to the level of what the progressives have been doing.
Apparently you did. You probably missed the nteemth post I made clarifying my position. But hey, keep cherry picking my posts, I’ll let you know when you start getting something worth talking about…
I can hardly contain my excitement.
Got me there…
To call it merely “whiney” is understatement and fails to appreciate that Trump’s communications are all driven by this tween-level insecurity, and it isn’t just the media. Legislators want to get down to business, and Trump has to spend time trying to convince them that, no really, he didn’t really lose the popular election because of all the illegal votes. It infects all he does.
And he can push back against a hostile media, that’s fine. I dont object to that. But he operates like a rank amateur and a buffoon, and is showing how easily provoked he is. His thin skin is like nothing we’ve ever seen in a man in his position - Hell, like nothing we’ve seen from any grown man.
No one should be pleased with this kind of performance from a president.
Good post. Unlike some of the left wingers on this thread I am perfectly willing to admit (and have done so) that both parties play hardball. It’s the politics of personal destruction. As I have said at least twice back in the day Lee Atwater, a republican was very good at it. Those days are gone and now the democrats are the best at the politics of personal destruction. Granted, the nonsensical birther movement was somewhat harmful to Obama. But I have to give the democrats credit for this entire “Trump is a puppet of Russia” scam. They are trying mightily to delegitimize his presidency. It’s good…it’s good. But unlike the birther nonsense I don’t think this one will have legs. As soon as Russia tries to make what might be considered an aggressive move and Trump reacts to prevent it their entire game goes down the toilet. Attacking Trump’s 10 year old boy when both of Obama’s daughters (who were of a similar age at the time) were off limits is just more hateful rhetoric and personal destruction executed by the best in the business…the left. Madonna claiming she thought about blowing up the White House was just comedy gold. I do wonder how her chat with the Secret Service went.
Now, as for the few lefties on this board that keep beating the Trump/Putin drum you either don’t understand politics at this level which is amusing, or you do understand politics and you are simply spewing out the propaganda that your commanders at the DNC would like. Which is it?
I laughed at the birther movement 8 years ago even though I thought (and was later proven correct) that Obama was going to be a disaster. But you guys are embracing this Russian nonsense as if it were real. And…I must say at some point I will be rubbing your noses in the piles of crap that a few of you keep posting. I mean it’s okay to not like Trump just as I did not appreciate Obama. But…try…try as hard as you can to separate fact from fiction.
Either way…this is the best game in town is it not?
I think we show ID for many things…why not show it to vote? My only concern on this front is laws like the one passed here in my lovely state of NC that was eventually struck down.
"In North Carolina, the legislature requested racial data on the use of electoral mechanisms, then restricted all those disproportionately used by blacks, such as early voting, same-day registration and out-of-precinct voting. Absentee ballots, disproportionately used by white voters, were exempted from the voter ID requirement. The legislative record actually justified the elimination of one of the two days of Sunday voting because “counties with Sunday voting in 2014 were disproportionately black” and “disproportionately Democratic.”
It goes further as well
The documents acceptable for proving voters’ identity in North Carolina were the ones disproportionately held by whites, such as driver’s licenses, U.S. passports, and veteran and military IDs, and the ones that were left out were the ones often held by poor minority voters, such as student IDs, government employee IDs and public assistance IDs. The Texas voter ID law was designed the same way: There, officials accepted concealed-weapon licenses but not student or state employee IDs.
From the actual opinion:
The panel wrote that “using race as a proxy for party may be an effective way to win an election. But intentionally targeting a particular race’s access to the franchise because its members vote for a particular party, in a predictable manner, constitutes discriminatory purpose. This is so even absent any evidence of race-based hatred and despite the obvious political dynamics.”
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