So if the law isn’t morality, is it whatever the individual desires?
Yes. That’s why we set up laws to avoid the situation in which one’s morals do not line up with another’s.
Then how is morality independent of the law?
I think as a society we come up with a list of things we all agree are objectively immoral. Things like slavery, murder, rape, robbery. In that case as long as you agree that those things should be illegal, then you believe those portions of the law are moral.
So it is? moral to want murder our parents?
Wait, is it the laws of society or the individual?
Later, supper time! Or at least the preparation of it.
Take care.
Morality is individual. I think society agrees on things which it thinks are immoral, and creates a law against it.
No problem, I should actually do some work.
Real quickly. You might take a look at the racial makeup of both atheism and the prison population, unfortunately. Athiesm, a tiny population already, isn’t exactly repesentative. Not remotely. It’s a pretty darn stacked deck.
And atheism doesn’t rule out faith. An atheist absolutely can have faith in the reality of good and evil. But he shares the same table as other people of faith. Including with us theists.
Yes. People have always preferred lies.
The question, “does this dress make me look fat?,” proves as much. You could replace dress with toga, bearskin, or fig leaf.
It was moral to most Southerners.
Ask Machiavelli or the Athenians and Melians.
Super interesting topic imo. Studying societal effects of various sects of religion would be really cool if it wasn’t so taboo.
Yeah, the article mentions that race was an issue with the original study. There are not many atheists that are not educated white males, and that group does not go to prison much.
Intelligence and religion is pretty interesting too. Also pretty taboo. Similar things need to be considered there.
I really like these type of topics, but only really talk about them here.
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What does Tupac have to do with any of this?
They irony of the whole satanic Temple crap is not lost on me. They ‘claim’ to not actually satanic but athiests, which I find weird because if they are atheist, why not say just that, instead of invoking the name of what you belive mythological creature who is by definition, evil.
Well, at least I know this. The satanic Temple if they are who they claim to be, are not actually Satanists. Real satanists, by definition must believe in Satan or they cannot be Satanists. Real Satanists, by definition must believe in Satan.
I had never really heard of a atheist Satanist until recently. Seems awful weird to me. To be atheist, but call yourself a Satanist? I guess it’s for the ‘Hey, look at me!’ Atheist.
The origins of “satanism” are from theists disagreeing with other ideologically. It was an externally placed label.
Atheistic satanism is a sect of satanism.
The practical use of the word for hundreds of years was lobbied at ideological foes, typically ‘non believers.’
Google will easily provide history of satanism blah blah but it’s actually a super fascinating (and solid core set) of beliefs.
It’s an attention grabber. Essentially “making” a religion to be able to challenge things on a religious basis. I don’t think many if any of them are actual satan worshippers. I don’t really care either way. That wouldn’t change points they have made over time challenging more accepted beliefs.
Although over time a lot of spin offs on that type of thing.
From their wiki:
The mission of The Satanic Temple is to encourage benevolence and empathy among all people, reject tyrannical authority, advocate practical common sense and justice, and be directed by the human conscience to undertake noble pursuits guided by the individual will. Politically aware, Civic-minded Satanists and allies in The Satanic Temple have publicly opposed The Westboro Baptist Church, advocated on behalf of children in public school to abolish corporal punishment, applied for equal representation where religious monuments are placed on public property, provided religious exemption and legal protection against laws that unscientifically restrict women’s reproductive autonomy, exposed fraudulent harmful pseudo-scientific practitioners and claims in mental health care, and applied to hold clubs alongside other religious after school clubs in schools besieged by proselytizing.
I don’t know much about them though anyone who opposed not Westboro can’t be all bad in my book. I’ve seen those assholes too many times in my life living near the Topeka area most of my life