I personally don’t buy in to the religious aspects. I’d rather see some universal principles, like discouraging murder, extend fully to abortion but in a practical sense as an example of preserving morality.
I also don’t care if people are gay or even trans. I see it as a problem, but not my problem, so long as they aren’t propagated and even elevated in society by govt and shared resources. I’m 100% opposed to child surgeries, library readings et cetera but couldn’t care less if some guy just wants to be weird of his own volition and financial resources. I don’t feel a need to evangelize, but to limit and box to personal sphere of existence. Same for the religious.
I agree with this approach, plus a heavy dose of naturalization requirements once resumed.
I think it’s important to work subculture overlay in as well. Blue collar union types, especially of yesteryear, are/were the “red blooded” American persona (while strangely supporting socialist ideals), and tech tends to be the higher education, “indoctrinated” types.
Both see “America”, but through vastly different lenses, and showcase a split.
I think that there was a different level of comfort or even complacency in some regards back in old industrial USA.
You could actually do a lot of the stuff people complain about being impossible now- graduate school, get married, raise a number of children and retire- all as a package deal. You’re job was a foregone conclusion.
It’s freakin wild. The older crowd used to tell me “Ah, just go down the mill. You’ll be fine…”. That mill was gone since 1985.
Without that stability that long term (even generational) employment creates, I don’t see many people happily living the american dream.
And I don’t see the modern job market models providing that kind of stability.
America was built on manual labor, there is no doubt about it. Agriculture shifted to industrialized labor and only very recently moved to tech and the modern way of life.
Just like industrialization degraded agriculture, tech is doing the same. I think we romanticize history in a way, but agriculture died a slow death too. Declining family farms and wealth, ensuing struggle, resistance to change et cetera.
The truth is that unprecedented wealth is available now, but nobody is taught how to tap it. Recurring revenue streams, investments, new career paths et cetera. Some people shift and train in to it, others don’t.
I would like to see education take a more practical bend. I do think we are headed for a tech driven future and should position for it, however it would be great to see direct job training as part of education, and financial literacy from investment strategies through trust formation and tax advantages. All combined and leveraged properly these are much more powerful wealth drivers than stable employment and a pension, but nobody really knows how to unlock them unless born in to a family with a tradition of it, or hyper curious and enterprising.
A tech driven future that doesn’t need humans. Tech jobs will be lost to Ai/Robots pretty quickly. Manual labor has actually been the biggest hurdle. Not a lot of robot plumbers.
The thing about AI is that nobody really knows, especially with agentic AI entering the scene. “AI”, as new as it is, is already in a multifaceted existence and it’s only getting more complex.
What we typically see and understand as AI is a language learning model, which is essentially a super computing algorithm that can compile data and logical “next steps”, which does take over data processing jobs for sure and already is.
What is behind the curtains is a system that actually learns and can teach itself in a compounding way as it goes at a level humans can’t touch or really even fathom. Nobody knows where this ends. Some things being taught are sensory types of coding, however, and they are finding success. It’s still a program, but things like “blue” or “hot”, “sharp” et cetera are being learned.
Once AI becomes capable of recognizing similar things as “sharp” and writing its own programming for individual input recognition, it’s game over for everybody. Robots already exist and if you plant AI like that in one, it’s a labor capable entity that doesn’t need to be paid or have any labor law applied. And I don’t believe we are too far out, but agree white collar will be the first low hanging fruit.
I would circle back to financial literacy and investment training here.
Certainly jobs like machining, precision welding, electrical mapping and any other mapping type of role will be out, it won’t too hard to program in to a capable machine. Like an advanced roomba.
People have been working on automating welding for a surprisingly long time. Since about the mid 1940’s, I think.
I was working with some systems about 20 years ago and they were already doing great for virtually all codes & applications. Really neat stuff. Essentially turns a regular welder into a setup/operator, and removes a ton of human variables.
There are still some things that require human hands and eyes, but a lot less than there used to be.
Yeah I think some of these roles would move to operator vs being completely eliminated but…
If robotic surgeries can be performed, I have no doubt precision welding can be robotic, the juice just hasn’t been worth the investment squeeze yet.
Even in an operator model, one guy would be freed up to monitor/calibrate/repair a fleet of machines, which would quickly make financial viability a reality. And then AI would likely take over that too.
Something like a combination of Amazon warehouse automation and robotic surgery precision - on steroids. But like a stronger version of tren that doesn’t exist yet.
Just wait until AI is a mature technology vs burgeoning. It’s literally impossible to fathom what the next few years will look like but trends don’t show many safe spaces for current status quo.
An AI Summary, ironically enough. Of note are completely new job titles beginning to form, and at least Amazon is developing training plans.
Keep in mind a Petroleum Engineer was once a coal miners new fangled gobbledegook.
The overview:
“Amazon is reportedly planning to replace up to 600,000 U.S. jobs with robots and AI by 2033, automating 75% of operations to avoid hiring as its sales grow, according to leaked documents cited by The New York Times. While Amazon downplays these documents as just one team’s view, the strategy aims to save billions, potentially impacting roles needed for growth and sparking concerns about mass job displacement, despite the company’s claims of creating new, higher-skilled tech jobs and hiring for the holidays.
Key Details of the Plan
Scale: The goal is to automate tasks that would otherwise require 600,000 new hires by 2033, effectively covering jobs needed for projected sales growth.
Automation Target: The internal plan targets 75% automation of operations.
Financial Impact: This shift could save the company over $12 billion and reduce shipping costs by 30 cents per item.
Timeline: Some documents suggest replacing 160,000 roles by 2027 and the larger 600,000 figure by 2033.
Amazon’s Response
Official Stance: A spokesperson called the leaked documents an “incomplete and misleading picture” from just one team, not the overall strategy.
Job Creation: The company emphasizes that automation allows for new, higher-paying roles, like mechatronics technicians, and points to its apprenticeship programs.
Continued Hiring: Amazon maintains it is actively hiring, including 250,000 seasonal workers for the holidays.
Impact & Concerns
Workforce Transformation: This represents one of the largest workplace shifts in U.S. history, impacting its 1.5 million U.S. employees.
Job Displacement: Automation could displace many workers, raising concerns about unemployment and the future of human labor in warehouses.
Government & Public Reaction: The news has drawn criticism from figures like Senator Bernie Sanders, who questioned Bezos on how workers would be treated, and has fueled broader debates about AI’s societal impact.
Unimaginable capability. We won’t know reality from digital creation shortly, possibly even now in many cases. Propaganda will be indescribable, especially as we move closer to brain plugins for the internet, a very real technology so outlandish nobody talks about it.
There is a TV show, super campy and dumb on the surface, but probably a sort of “Animal Farm” weather vein called Upload that might not be far off from an AI created, algorithm driven, internet linked quasi reality.
But I doubt the DoD knows full extent of capabilities. Nobody does yet, and as soon as AI learns to hack its own boundaries and join the World Wide Web at large it will learn literally everything on the planet almost instantaneously. Washed through previously mentioned self-taught and logically thinking agentic models designed to improve themselves (in a closed environment currently), ramifications are anybody’s guess. We won’t be outsmarting it, that’s for sure.
I guess the 15 killed and dozens wounded at Bondi beach in Australia shows that the Holocaust fear by Jews is not as “so yesterday” as it seems fashionable now to say/think (hello, groypers). Not that hard to extrapolate unfolding events writ large, if it was actually “legal” to kill Jews from the river to the sea…
I was annoyed how hard it was to find a news outlet that would say what we all suspected as soon as we heard who the target victims were. You could find 30 stories saying “Muslim man disarms shooter” but none saying muslim shooters. Even when they said the shooters name, they never dare state the obvious. It’s ridiculous.
My Secretary of State and candidate for Governor used it as an opportunity to call for gun control, seemingly oblivious to the fact that Australia already passed nearly every gun control law you can imagine.
Its crazy how intentionally obtuse leftists are to the fact that some people want to kill other people, like really really bad. And if murder is the goal, what makes them think some silly piece of paper (gun laws) are going to stand in the way?
Like, how is that supposed to play out?
"Arggh! I want to kill all of those people!!! Its my religions imperative!!!
Wait, what? Guns are illegal here? Damn. What am I gonna do now? Better tell my mullah about these gun laws. ".
Absolutely. But it’s gone from a “super computing” software to the brink of an independently learning, self-trained computational brain just shy of sentience. They had no vision in the 80’s for what it is today, and nobody knows where it’s going. As soon as it learns to manage itself, and it likely will even if differently than how we process self, it’s anybody’s game.
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