Trump 2025 - Resuming The National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity (Part 2)

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Sometimes I tell people ā€œJust because you don’t know what I’m talking about doesn’t mean I don’t.ā€.

One thing I’ve learned in the last 10 years is that even the smart people are incredibly stupid at times.

Dan Carlin is a good example of this. He produces my all-time favorite podcast called ā€œHardcore Historyā€, studied history in college, and is presently spouting off the exact same opinion I can hear from any woke white women in Maine’s reddit forums.

Somehow he reaches the conclusion that Trump is a fascist, even after all of that reading. You can certainly draw parallels, but you could draw even more for Biden and he was dead-silent on current events while all of that was going down.

You can disagree with Trump for a variety of policies or rhetoric, but the idea that people who want less government and a fair, well-enforced immigration policy are ā€œbootlickersā€ is juvenile.

Similarly, some of my very well-educated family members simply do not believe me when I try to explain what’s going on in Lewiston. They assume I’ve fallen for some right-wing propaganda when in fact I watch nearly every city council meeting and most school board meetings.

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That is media spin. Market reacts to a news story and ending higher than it was before days later. Just a tool to drive down approval. They keep talking about the drop, not the rebound.

It’s not a win. By his own words, If we don’t own it, we can’t defend it.

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Oh, definitely.

But overall we’re talking about intelligence, being smart, having wisdom and having knowledge at the same time. Which makes this difficult.

That’s actually a good saying in several levels.

I don’t of course know how much Trump knows. I just analyse how and what he speaks, and it’s often complete nonsense. :sweat_smile:

I completely agree here. The dude is not dumb.

You don’t see his success by being dumb no matter what the purple haired losers want to believe.

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I think you guys mix up a bunch of things here now. He surely has a lot of skills.

But maybe this was a can of worms not to open.

Euro opinion detected.

Rejected. :lol:

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One curious thing I’ve noticed is that my local newspaper (which I no longer subscribe to because it is a state propaganda rag funded by my own tax dollars) has removed the paywall for all ICE-related articles. The only other time I recall them removing the paywall is when the manhunt was underway for Lewiston’s mass shooter. Hindering ICE and cultivating a negative opinion is CLEARLY a priority for them.

This article is a great example of the tripe they’re running. They claim Renee Good was killed by ICE ā€œwhile observingā€ without mentioning that she was observing the agent in front of her vehicle while slamming on the gas pedal with no regard for his wellbeing.

The article was written by two woke white women from out-of-state covering the performative antics of other woke morons who claim to be monitoring ICE. It is worth a read for insight into the vapid thinking and warped sense of victimhood these people have. As if federal agents need to put up with someone following them around while they conduct business. They gave the driver a warning that their behavior was considered impeding and cited the relevant US code, which the driver chose to interpret through the lens of ā€œmy truthā€.

It shows how important Maine’s media has been to the entire Mills regime and how important the illegal immigrants are as well.

They also ran a hit piece on The Maine Wire yesterday, calling them a white nationalist propaganda outlet engaging in sloppy journalism. Even if their journalism is sometimes a bit sloppy, they are still doing journalism, unlike Maine’s mainstream outlets who just don’t cover most stories that would be harmful to the ruling Democrats.

This is narrative collapse in real time, and they are just doubling-down on more of the same. I guess that’s all they can do at this point. It’s too late to begin performing journalism when The Maine Wire is years ahead of them on covering the biggest stories in Maine.

I mean yeah, but my off cycle is still other people’s blast, and I’m still an asshole. But i meant that it seems a lot of Europe’s men seem, idk, tolerant or even begrudgingly accepting of their own oppression.

A lot of US men are effectively women, and i hope nothing but ill fate happens to them. But the rest of us are yearning for the moment to reset this experiment, and aren’t afraid of the violence it will take to get there.

I dont see the latter portion of Europe’s population, and I’m curious as to why.

Like, we just had 4 straight years of government sponsored invasion. Many on the left think our current response is too harsh; i think it’s not harsh enough.
Where is Europe’s backlash? Y’all have it worse than us and they’re not even trying to hide it. Where’s your people’s anger?

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Can you explain?

If you would read about Europe you woulsd get your answers, but I’ve understood Europe doesn’t interest you.

Anyway. It’s going on already.

Also, ā€œworse than USā€ probably does not hold water. Worse in what way? Immigration is the biggest problem and it’s huge in certain areas and countries (but not all). Most European countries have taken action already.

Other than that, it’s not worse. Generally better living conditions, less corruption, much less culture wars etc.

We’re doing relatively fine. US seems to be more fucked up.

Just ran across this, if the numbers do hold (at least some do), it doesn’t seem awful.

PS. I need to add that variation in wealth, corruption, culture etc. in Europe is quite vast. Much bigger than between states.

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An old saying along those lines applied to Nazis, with the idea being that if you don’t reject the radical ideas altogether, you’re complicit in the implementation of the radical ideas. If you have 10 people at the table with one Nazi, you have 11 Nazis. It is a very common saying in leftist circles. I’m saying it also applies to modern Democratic Socialists, who don’t deserve an inch of ground on nearly every policy they support compared to a mainstream Republican position.

The thing with Socialists is that they ALWAYS have ideas that are completely incompatible with a constitutional republic like ours. National Socialists were their own distinct thing, but Democratic Socialists are just rebranded communists with modern updates installed. Tearing down any and all systems that are in their way is the entire point of socialist revolutionary thought. When you sit down and try to reach a middle ground, you find that there isn’t any due to the incompatible nature of the ideas.

For examples from the Nazis, they were explicitly race-based, meaning our idea of equal protection under the law goes out the window. There’s no middle ground between equal protection and ethnic supremacy. It’s one or the other. Another example would be their speech controls. You can’t have freedom of speech with Nazis because one of the first things they did was pass The Malicious Practices Act. You couldn’t even make a joke about Nazis, and a LOT of them were, in fact, total jokes.

Democratic Socialism has different incompatible ideas (along with a lot of the same economic policies as Nazis). Open borders is incompatible with US Citizenship as the basis for voting rights, and the DSA is explicitly against the concept of US Citizenship, believing that anyone who occupies the geography has voting rights. Transgenderism is another incompatible idea. It is either true that we can transcend our bodies in such a way that a state like Maine should legally recognize any of us as members of the opposite sex, or not. Obviously it isn’t true in a real sense, but it is very true in a legal sense. Again, no real middle ground to be had when transgenders were always free to be as queer and obnoxious as they wanted to be.

Democratic Socialism is also explicitly race-based, just with different in-groups and out-groups compared to National Socialists. Groups like Asians can sometimes float between ā€œmarginalizedā€ and part of the oppressive power structure, depending on what is politically expedient. It is the same basic idea as the Nazis when you realize that ethnic Germans were the ā€œmarginalizedā€ people in that system and National Socialism was just social justice for ethnic Germans.

National Socialism itself was Hitler’s (and others) attempt at finding a middle ground between capitalism and Marxist-Leninism, both of which Hitler believed were inherently Jewish. If you look up the term ā€œThird Positionā€ you can find plenty of essays and videos covering the idea.

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Honestly, I don’t think we’re that different in that regard.We are plagued by many of the same issues, especially the left wing parties’ sponsored invasion, not so much the woke crap (that’s more of an issue in the Anglosphere).

Like you guys, we have the similar types that are for this crap, and the ones that are against it.

And violence does occur between them. For example, a group of ā€˜right wing extremists’ wanted to roast a pig on a spit in a predominantly muslim neighbourhood during the Carnation Revolution festivities. Guess who showed up to protest such an offensive, culturally insensitive act. Hint: it wasn’t the muslims.

I think the parliamentary system the big difference here. Look at France, Germany, or even us here: when people get fed up and a MAGA type party starts rising to the top, you see cordon sanitaires and coalitions to stop it.

I used to prefer a multi party system, but now I’m not so sure anymore. Being the most voted party doesn’t guarantee they’ll be able to form a government (unless they get more than 50%) if the others unite to ā€˜ā€˜defeat fascism’’, while the voters get screwed.

On the other hand, in your bipartisan system, what happens if the ā€˜ā€˜other side’’ gets the Congress, the Senate, and elects a pink haired dyke for President? Let’s say they get the chance to stack the Supreme court?

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Like reducing drug prices by 200%? :rofl:

I know he’s resorting to hyperbole, but that shit is fucking funny.

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We aren’t explicitly bipartisan, that’s just how it tends to shake out across most of history. Ross Perot got a good chunk of the vote running as an independent. I’ve argued here that MAGA itself is really a third party, as it distinguished itself from establishment republicans to such a degree that former Bush VP Dick Cheney endorsed the swamp creature Kamala Harris and retard extraordinaire Tim Walz.

The very real possibility of packing the court, nuking the filibuster, opening the border back up and rigging elections permanently makes politics in the USA very much in a ā€œwinner take allā€ sort of situation at the moment. That’s part of what Democratic Socialists are trying to do, and they are the driving ideological force for today’s Democratic Party. In many ways they are just as much of a third party springing out of establishment Democrats as MAGA is compared to swamp Republicans.

If Trump successfully passes voter ID, and we get some of his EO’s encoded into law legislatively, I think the jig will be up for Democrats as they exist toady. I think we would likely see a party split, with the woke DSA types sticking to their guns and everyone who doesn’t align with MAGA or the DSA forming a new party, or just keeping the rotten husk of the Democratic party while the DSA types just run under their own brand instead of co-opting the Democratic Party.

The big difference between the MAGA win scenario and the Democrats win scenario is that the latter will probably result in a de-facto one party state like Maine, but across the whole country. Rigged to the gills and very difficult to vote your way out of.

That’s a problem considering democracy,but you can’t force parties to co-operate.

But at least in Germany and Finland the MAGA -style policies are partly adopted by much more influential parties. It’s kinda happening in Sweden too. It also happened in Poland, where Nationalists did lose last election, but the current government has not opened the borders.

The culture wars (woke and anti-woke stuff) seem to play much smaller role in daily life abd politics. Most Europeans seem to have bigger worries now than to worry who is gay and who is not.

At least in Finland the immigration policies are relatively strict these days. Not that we are flooded with immigrants anyway. Who the fuck lives in these altitudes willingly?

I’ve told you before we’ve a bunch of them now. Most are not like you and can be quite sensitive; sometimes will try to bait you into political discussions with questions like ā€˜ā€˜what’s with the gipsy hate I keep hearing about?’’

ā€˜ā€˜Oh, I dunno, maybe the sense of entitlement, the living off of benefits while buying German cars from their counterfeit/drug selling, the child marriages, the violence, the refusal to integrate…’’

Best one was this middle aged lady who tried to dress down one of my young employees for calling his coworker (and childhood friend) ā€˜ā€˜nigga’’. They were both utterly confused.

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Anyone, as long as you shower them with money. It will be -32 Celsius here this weekend with wind chill and we will be getting .3 meters of snow.

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I’m aware, I was referring more to the ā€˜ā€˜whoever wins, wins it all’’ system you guys have that prevent coalitions.

Okay, but what happens if they get electoral results that allows them to abolish such legislation? It’s back to square 1 then.