My guess is that this was not Trumps goal at all.
Or if it was, he went incredibly dumb route with it. How about asking: ”we’re worried about Greenland, how about increasing our military presence there?”
The deal is still open. Interesting to see how that turns out at the end.
It makes more sense when you compare Trump to other businessmen and not past Presidents who only ever worked in politics.
Lewiston’s most recent city council meeting is getting a lot of attention. The situation is so hard to believe, but everything I’ve written about it in this thread is true.
Similar to the 2020 BLM riots in Minnesota, absolutely nothing similar to Minneapolis is happening anywhere in Maine with the recent ICE surge. The Mayor and Secretary of State are certainly trying to egg people on by comparing it to Nazi Getmany, but our local leftists don’t have the same appetite for mayhem and obstruction that they do in Minneapolis. Not yet, at least.
I think it makes a lot of sense. It was still tremendously badly handled. Words and acts matter in international politics.
They certainly do matter. Just ask your President.
But not results?
International politics is 99% performative group felatio, and 1% spitting.
Alex saying contradicting things is no news for anybody.
Surely they do. Result of this situation was that trust of European leaders towards USA has declined. Once again. Not that the relationship is gone, it takes a lot of work, Europe and US are so intertwined
But general theme from several European sources is that US seems unreliable loose cannon. Remember that Trump indirectly threathened, and directly mocked several European countries.
That’s all that matter in international affairs.
The US has carte blanch use of Greenland.
I don’t care how a bunch of elitist snobs feel. None of them are coming to my funeral.
I’m a little bit pragmatic. I like things that work.
And you can not separate words and acts, or you lose reliability.
Me too, that’s why it’s good that Europe will take distance/indepence from US. Spain and Portugal have already cancelled their deals for US F-35 fighter jets, I’m sure most important arm deals will be done inside Europe from now on.
I humbly disagree! They are HYOOGE on face. Saving face, the appearance of title.
Every one of those people is their own parade.
Who gives a shit? I, and I think a majority of Americans, care very little about the feelings of European leaders.
US losing billions from cancelled trade and weapon deals. I guess that matters a little.
Good! Thats the old "I’m taking my business elsewhere! " routine.
That will make Europe a better stronger, and more capable union.
I really am all for that. Europeans for Europe! Americans for America!
Somali for cwis practice.
But generally I agree with you. It’s good thing if Europe takes distance, even if it hurts the economy (big deal) and leaves US and Europe weaker than before.
It’s better to have friendly, but not depended relations to US. Europe has been way too depended on US in every way. That’s why US can bully Europe if it feels so.
It might be it does not happen though. It depends how much balls European leaders have.
I think Europeans will need to grow accustomed to a very different foreign policy that doesn’t sell out American citizens for the whims of politicians who all become fabulously wealthy on modest salaries.
It was 20 years after World War II and over 10 years after President Eisenhower’s comments about US troops in Europe that my dad spent his teenage years being one of the first Americans to die if The Soviets ever pushed west. That was sixty years ago, and Americans are still on many of the same bases my father trained on.
When my dad got out of the Army, buying a simple home was easily within his reach in the USA. Today, it isn’t.
Meanwhile, everything I’ve described in Lewiston is happening all over the USA and is being brought to public attention one news story at a time. I am confident that when all of the facts are revealed, which may take decades, it will be understood as the biggest corruption scandal in world history if measured by the value of the wealth extracted.
To reach that understanding, many will have to come to terms with the fact that they bought into all of the unsupported media narratives that enabled this massive con game. They’re the folks currently screaming “NAZI” at ICE workers.
Nonsense. All posturing.
Yeah. They can either buy them from us, the Saudis, or not at all.
Governor Mills is giving a press conference right now about ICE in Maine. She calls them “secret police” and suggests that their masks are a sign of nefarious intent, not a simple precaution against the crazed leftist lunatics Mills and her fellow Democrats are trying to rile up.
She suggests US Citizens are committing more crimes than illegal immigrants in Maine. She suggest that ICE’s target of 1,400 criminally-charged illegal immigrants is not realistic.
It all makes sense when you understand that she’s been buying votes with our money, allowing massive amounts of fraud, and ensuring that our system of elections allows anyone to participate.
She has prohibited Maine Law Enforcement from cooperating with ICE and acts incredulous that ICE isn’t sharing operational details with her administration.
Nonstop emotional blackmail from this bitch, all to protect her wildly successful grifting operation that’s ravaged this state over the last 7 years of single-party Democratic governance.
It already happened by Spain and Portugal last year.
I guess Europe starts to move towards more independent role from US. I see it as a positive. It might hurt both economies a bit, but it’s worth it. I doubt US-European relations will turn sour though. There’s enpugh openly hostile actors in the world.
Portugal looks to be backing out of plans to purchase the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter as a result of US President Donald Trump’s lack of commitment or solidarity with Europe and NATO.
The spokesperson declined to share additional details, but the Spanish newspaper El Pais first reported that Madrid made the decision to “postpone indefinitely” any orders for the Lockheed Martin-made fifth-generation jets in a bid to “prioritize investment in European industry.”
Switzerland is also wavering. Each deal is worth of billions.
There is European production. Hopefully even more in the future.
Overall my stance about the situation has changed quite drastically in the past year or so. I was all enforcing the US-European relationship before, but because of several reasons my stance has altered. Trusting US having good will towards Europe was naive as hell. I think good relations should still be maintained, but some distance is good.
If you think of it, it’s actually baffling how much of European weaponry is US made, or how much we rely on US based sites/applications/satellites/tech. Europe has become depended on US, and it needs to end.
Good, they will be even weaker with shittier tech and garbage that is outdated and can’t even detect our aircraft like in Venezuela.
Best of luck to them.