Trump 2025 - Resuming The National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity (Part 2)

I think that this is an interesting point to explore - where people draw the line between a political issue vs a moral issue and how to handle that.

That line has become blurred to the point of non existence.

A whole lot of the leftist noise has focused around exactly this. The more things you can make political, the more there is to disagree about- turning leftists into what ampunts to prison gangs wherein everything is ā€œpoliticalā€ and everything is subject to sides.

And if you arent on their side, you’re on the wrong side.

It goes both ways.

Abortion was not a political issue until the rise of the religious right, for example.

In the case of Wendy from Hallowell, her position was the moral one. Her employee’s position was that Wendy should take her side in a social media spat, then agree to ā€œbanā€ anyone her employee labels a ā€œwhite supremacistā€ or a ā€œNaziā€ from the restaurant. Wendy simply stated that everyone is welcome to eat at Slate’s, earning her statewide news coverage with headlines treating her employee’s position as perfectly legitimate. Way back in 2019, it was a perfect microcosm of today’s political discourse. If you don’t agree that whoever the left labels a ā€œNaziā€ is, in fact, an ideological threat on par with Hitler, well, that makes you a Nazi, too.

Those right-wingers in the 3rd and 4th centuries were basically Nazis, when you really think about it.

I guess that makes 5th century BCE Isralites liberals then.

Here are some public comments from this week up in Bangor, where they elected a ā€œmarginalizedā€ woman to city council who beat a Canadian tourist and suffocated him to death with sand.

The idea among these progressives is the same way of thinking that resulted in Wendy from Hallowell being labeled a ā€œNaziā€.

By opposing a massive tax hike on an already heavily taxed population, you are complicit in Nazi ideology, according to hyper-emotional people who believe in an incoherent race-based view of the world.

Listen to these woke white women (who elected a murderer) and ask yourself, who sounds like the ideological fanatic?

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:man_shrugging:t2: you asked.

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I did.

It’s probably a more nuanced conversation that won’t work in this thread.

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@FuzzyFella Why did you delete your post asking for a forearm pic from me?

I’ve never really trained forearms directly or trained for bodybuilding (let alone ate like a bodybuilder), but I still haven’t encountered any ANTIFA that frighten me. Not even a little bit.

Now scram, commie.

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I see what you did there. That was funny.

We were all a little concerned when he took to wearing trench coats in high school, but he’s never grown his hair and beard out or sought to expose the rotten ideas of modern civilization.

He settled in Eugene, OR, not a remote cabin in Montana. He’s a big fan of Robert Reich.

The morality of politics, or the politics of morality.

Like what’s the link between them, and how do peoples morals result in their political affiliations.

It’s an interesting subject. You can have two people raised in approximately the same environment, even a same church (uniform moral code) and end up with diametrically opposed political leanings.

She did the right thing. People are stupid and there’s nothing she can do about that, so let them and go about your business.

I understand it’s easy to say this when it’s not my bottom line at stake. To be honest people here are not even close to that level of wokeness so this kind of stuff is all a bit nonsensical to me.

Most overrated member of the band IMO.

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I liked him until Audioslave happened.

Kind of killed it for me.

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It’s likely the definitive moment where he became completely consumed with himself.

Audioslave was okay. When they were releasing albums I remember listening, though I was also 16. But I never revisit their music. Still listen to Soundgarden and Rage all the time. But in Audioslave’s case the parts were better than the sum.

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LOL Trump declares war on fire ants.

It makes more sense when you understand the philosophical origins of progressive thought and its evolution over the last 200 years. In short, we’re dealing with an esoteric religion that traces its thinking all the way back to the Gnostics (and even further back to Plato). It differs from the Gnostics in that it incorporates the Hermetic idea of repairing the world from the named ruptures that have taken place. Marx managed to repackage the ideas of Hegel into a quasi-scientific theory whose core ideas continue to be recycled to this very day. Identity politics, aka oppressor and victim framework forms the basis for almost all of it, backed by a bunch of made-up nonsense that has an entire academic apparatus designed to give their religion superficial credibility.

Of course, almost none of the people in this cult believe their political ideas are religious at all, which is part of why it has been so effective. It is also why it is in diametric opposition to Christian ideas that gave way to the classical liberal ideas about government that they also seek to tear down.

The only ones who embrace the religious aspect of it today are Unitarian Universalists, who are quite popular in Maine. They also say the same things Jim Jones did, totally copying his method of wrapping revolutionary socialist thought in a facade of Christian imagery, ritual, and vocabulary.

Don’t take my word for it. Listen to Jim Jones explain it (time-stamped to when he begins his ā€œsermonā€ of socialism):

Plus, he holds the guitar waaay too high. Not cool at all.

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It really doesn’t, because it’s all

And they mean well, just like the good folk running the Holy Inquisiton.