Trump 2025 - Resuming The National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity (Part 2)

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At least Israel is safe.

You should be honored and happy with another forever war brewing and higher prices on everything while we spiral into more black hole debt in the sand.

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“How I learned to stop worrying so much and love Israel.”

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Venezuela was going to be a “forever war” too, if I recall. We are knee-capping China and taking out the Iranian Death Cult (who should have been dealt with decades ago) all at once. It won’t be a forever war, no matter how hard you pray for it to be.

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If you were to put a time line on iran, how long will it last? How do we win? Like, what will signify that we’ve won? What’s the specific end?

I think that’s what could keep this from dragging out forever, if we define specific goals.

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As long as it has to.

Saying it after we leave.

The proper media sources will let us know.

Winning.

Sounds like a good way to possibly lose.

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Man, it’s feels like the Kirk outrage was just yesterday.

Mueller wasn’t assassinated for political reasons while he was having peaceful conversations with people who disagreed with him. I’m not sure if you remember the time when we were all told that Trump colluded with Russia to trick Americans into voting for him somehow, but it was front-page news for a few years.

If I were Trump, I’d be glad Mueller was dead, too. He was a major part of what is probably the greatest media hoax ever concocted against a sitting President, all in an effort to protect the biggest scam ever on the American public - the importation of a new voting bloc to disenfranchise US Citizens, collect public benefits, and carry out vast amounts of medical billing fraud.

What did Charlie Kirk do? Say that men can’t become women and promote very old, mainstream Christian values?

Or are you still in the camp that actually believes that illegal immigrants don’t vote, don’t collect any form of taxpayer-funded benefits, and don’t engage in mind-boggling levels of crime and fraud? Those folks tend to be the ones who believed Rachel Maddow, late-night “comedy” hosts, and every other paid stooge who all repeated the same lies that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election.

More Charlie Kirks and fewer Robert Muellers would be a very good thing for the world.

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I don’t ever recall that.

Here’s a quick couple:

U.S. Rep. Jimmy Gomez (D-CA), in an official statement released on January 3, 2026 (the day of the operation):
“This action risks destabilizing Venezuela, plunging the country into chaos, and dragging the United States into yet another endless war or open-ended nation-building effort. 
 Congress and the American people deserve the truth, not another forever war launched in the dark.”

Kat Abughazaleh, Democratic congressional candidate (Illinois), in a video statement amid protests (reported January 12, 2026):
“The president of the United States is about to drag us into another forever war without congressional approval.”

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If Iran doesn’t drag for quite some time, I’ll be surprised and admit I was wrong.

Iran is not Venezuela.

They’re obviously different countries, but their military equipment has a lot of common suppliers. It’s been a little over three weeks now and Iran’s best military achievement has been knocking out a radar and damaging - not destroying - an F35 (if the reports I read the other day are true).

If we end up trying to occupy a country of Iran’s size and very rugged terrain, like you, I will admit I was wrong. Given that we’re only deploying 2,500 ground troops to the theater in the form of a Marine Expeditionary Unit that’s still on a ship, we don’t see anything remotely resembling the build-up for a massive ground invasion and subsequent occupation. Deploying an MEU is also a diplomatic statement that sends a very clear message that coastal facilities like ports can be captured whenever the US military wants to.

I wanted to respond to an earlier comment of yours


Even if you believe everything Nick Fuentes says about Israel and Jewish people, you still have to hand it to them for having skin in the game. Missiles and drones do get through occasionally, and there are over 3,000 wounded Israelis and a few dozen dead ones, according to some reports.

They are also damn good at warfare, far better than any of our main allies of the 20th century. Russia can’t handle Ukraine. The UK has more admirals than warships.

Our former enemy Japan is probably still pretty sharp because Japanese people are just like everyone else, only more so, but they don’t have much of a combat record since we made them promise not to fight anyone.

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Disclaimer:

The following is all based on an “I feel” perspective and is in no way based in reality.

This is such a strange one though. I mean the decisive strikes, the intensity of the sustained destruction. This one feels different than the half baked leadership decisions and hamstringing rules of engagement that we saw through the previous middle eastern conflicts.

But I felt the same way about Kuwait and the charge to Baghdad too, so :man_shrugging:t2:.

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Fixed.

I certainly can be wrong, but I wouldn’t take you as a fan of Meuller.

He’s like the consumate government bureaucratic creep. Like, he doesn’t rob Peter to pay Paul, he robs both and convinces each that the other did it.

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Not really.

I just really dislike hypocrisy when one identical action is condemned when “the other side” does it, but waved away when “my side” does it.

I think that is a huge part of the political rot that disillusioned people.

It is okay to not mourn someone who tried to destroy you. It may not be presidential compared to recent presidents, but recent presidents haven’t achieved a whole lot of good outcomes. Teddy Roosevelt would hold sparring matches at The White House when he was President, earning himself a detached retina when one didn’t go his way. Despite behaving in an un-presidential way by today’s standards, he’s widely regarded as a champion of American progress.

Mueller’s whole investigation was a years-long nothing burger, fed to the public and consumed by an awful lot of people who lack the skills to discern well-supported news reporting from state-manufactured propaganda backed by dubious and murky facts.

I didn’t realize Mueller attacked you.

I didn’t either, until you just now pointed it out.

What would you call The Russian Collusion media narrative that was fed to the American public? Good reporting on hard facts?