@jshaving I’m curious to learn more now. At a glance, I see some similarities to Ruby Ridge. That guy definitely killed a fed and was acquitted on self-defense grounds.
@FlatsFarmer I don’t think they will stop raging until every socialist radical is released from prison across the globe.
Now that Democratic Socialists have been shown the door by citizens voting against their bad ideas, RATM is thankfully able to revert to their natural state with Republicans back in power.
It must’ve been a little awkward to Rage For The Machine for so long, but those days are over for now. The #resistance is back and the need for funky grooves with short-sighted socialist messaging is greater than ever.
90’s Democrats were probably more right wing than 2020’s Republicans, or at least in the same ballpark. They didn’t incorporate many radical socialist ideas at all back then, which by 2025 Democrat reasoning makes Bill Clinton literally Hitler. Just like Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
Obviously, the machine was in need of raging against at the time. Democrats had a border policy and only believed in two genders back then, after all. They are long past those dark times, policy wise.
Those communist grifters even get some money from me occasionally. When I grab a bite to eat at the old dive bar I’ve been known to load up some RATM on the jukebox when I make the entire bar listen to 90’s rock for 30 straight minutes. I prefer Rage’s version of Renegades of Funk to Afrika Bambattas and the Soulsonic Force’s original.
Good old cultural appropriation comes through again. I’m happy to send them my nickel, or whatever they get from Touch Tunes.
Sure. Its a choice of 2 bad options. Its like a real life example of judged by 12 or carried by 6.
I understand that its clemency. He was convicted and serving a sentence. It’s saying his sentence has been served.
If I’m correct on the time period, it was a time of revolt and mistrust between federal gov. and native Americans. I’m guessing the politics of the time affected the outcome.
I think it depends on how exactly the agents handled themselves, and who started shooting first. That’s one of the details that’s murky.
I know. But it’s more than has been done in the past several decades, when you had everyone from Mother Theresa to the Dalai Lama talking about it.
That’s the thing. What would 90% of people do if two dudes in unmarked cars sped onto your land in a remote area? I think that region might’ve briefly become the murder capital of the country during the late 60s and early 70s (don’t take that as gospel, I think I just read it somewhere), and local/state/federal law enforcement have been tied to many of those deaths. Given that political atmosphere would most people assume the agents were just there for a friendly visit? I wouldn’t.
Not when you were an Indian in South Dakota in the 1970s. Stuff like Wounded Knee 1890 was living memory for a not-insignificant amount of people then, and Wounded Knee 1973 had received, literally, international attention and pissed off a lot of people in the government.
So, should they have identified themselves(I assume there’s no video of the incident, and I’m not sure who could say whether or not they identified themselves), or not?
Edit: To be clear, I don’t really care one way or the other whether an 80-year-old dies in prison or in a house. I don’t even think Federal law enforcement should exist.
From what little I’ve read about it the similarities to Ruby Ridge involves armed Feds rolling up where people live without the people who live there having any way of knowing who they were or why they were rolling up there.
What happened between the shootout initiating and the agents getting finished off is what is murky to me, with regard to Peltier. I don’t see an open and shut body of evidence at all.
I’d say this type of pardon is among the more normal of the pardons given in Biden’s name.
And it doesn’t really matter. There’s no self-defense to finishing off your opposition. Imagine a white police officer shooting a Black Man in the head after he was cuffed.
But they didn’t knock on the door, politely introduce themselves, then get thrown to the ground and executed. There was a gun fight between several people. Again, I’m not saying the execution shot was morally or legally right.
They should’ve. Still might’ve gone badly, and people can face consequences for that, but they didn’t give the people they rolled up on any reason to not think they were in need of defending their lives.
