Same take on the “Major Cities Chiefs Association” as my second take. Serious questions about who they are, how they are gathering information, and all of the rest of their qualifications for presenting their findings.
Again, I have no frame of reference for Boston like I do for where I live, and it doesn’t seem like you do either.
You can’t call that source material by any stretch. That’s a .com with a fishy sounding name.
I know republicans hate to hear this, but Crime (on average) actually has been going down broadly speaking. I dont suppose any source I would link anyone here to would suffice unless it was www.TrumpCrimeReport.com but heres another showing that overall crime has been dropping for a while now
This is why I dont concern myself with the ins and outs of Lewiston BTW. I feel bad that your neck of the woods is in bad shape, and genuinely hope it turns around, but it is not representative of the country as a whole by any stretch.
Source material meaning the source information that the author of the article I linked used to write their piece.
You still need to follow the whole rabbit hole at the bottom to understand the numbers. I’m not about to figure out where that leads.
I’m not suggesting a dozen or so fewer homicides is outside of the reach or influence of local politicians in Boston. I’m just suggesting that the first article you linked has the same stench I know how to sniff out locally. The vast constellation of links, each with their own vaguely-defined and often self-referential basis for thought, is the first clue I picked up on.
It is similar to how Marxist academics have inverted the very concept of peer review to create a circle jerk of approved thought.
Nothing to see here. Nothing at all.
LOL. Moving the goalposts: “Both the FBI and BJS data show dramatic declines in U.S. violent and property crime rates since the early 1990s, when crime spiked across much of the nation.”
“Since the early 1990s”, -I thought this was about Trump/Libtards.
At least Pew is considered unbiased.
From the article, showing that crime statistics, like most statistics, can be interpreted/manipulated to show whatever point of view is desired. Objectively speaking. (fancy that!)
“Most violent and property crimes in the U.S. are not reported to police, and most of the crimes that are reported are not solved.”
Not sure if you know this, but 2020-2024 came after the 1990s. If you believe trumps talking points crime absolutely exploded under Biden, but if you look at the actual numbers they declined. This is a well known thing that republicans absolutely refuse to believe (unless a republican is in office of course then the numbers are real, just like Trumps economic/jobs report vs Obamas. )
What did they decline from you may ask? In fact, according to the data the single biggest year increase on record recently was… In Trumps first term, from 2019-2020. 30% increase in one year late in Trumps term (aka when he would have had the most influence compared to earlier years) Oops. I guess crime did explode, only it was on Trumps watch… It then dropped substantially again under Biden in 2023-24 (when he would have had the most influence compared to 2021-22 when he was handed Trumps crime ridden country)
Heck, maybe its even down 92% just like the egg prices, or maybe he gets his numbers for both things from the same place?? Or maybe its just good ol fashioned trolling the libs? Who knows with Trump, hes way too smart to figure out.
You keep linking very dubious sources of information that require a lot of work to get to the bottom of what they are saying.
Do you truly find PBS in 2025 to be a reputable source of information? Isn’t their leadership 100 percent Democrat?
There it is. When the facts disagree with your opinion, lampoon the source, just like dear leader does.
In any event… I linked Pew Research, not PBS. Even my friend there said it was unbiased. Try again.
Or even better, why dont YOU link a reputable source that shows crime has been going up broadly in the USA under Biden and down under trump in his first term? Maybe we can avoid this whole problem then
Understanding “The facts” as presented by PBS, which was absolutely where your link took me on YouTube, requires an awful lot of work to understand.
It is often technically true, but highly misleading.
PBS is at least as bad as Pravda, but probably worse, if you value truth.
Biden supporters seem to live in a very abstract world. It’s like we speak the same language, but use different dictionaries.
Again, the stench of “technically true” propaganda I am subjected to in Maine is emanating from your sources, which is in
n defiance of everything I can observe around me.
Oh the YouTube video ? That was just spicer saying “the numbers used to be fake but now they’re real since trump is in office”
Find whatever source you like for that, it was mostly a throw away comment that had nothing to do with the crime numbers except to point out that republicans like the numbers when they are in office and say they are fake when a democrat is just like the crime numbers
Those are cherry picked stats. The links mention 1st quarter and the 78% is from mid-year. The end of year drop was 33%.
It is just political framing, and the links even make mention of it:
“Polls show crime continues to be a top concern ahead of the 2024 election, where Republicans regularly edge Democrats, but dropping homicide rates could take the steam out of this crucial GOP advantage, writes Axios’ Russell Contreras.”
Shoplifting, burglaries, aggravated assaults, rape/attempted rape, and hate crimes have all increased in Boston.
Nice try though.
It’s a Top concern because republican leaders can’t stop Lying about the numbers, whipping people up into a frenzy about an issue that is largely actually getting better on average across the country
Wouldn’t you know, crime is down in Maine. I guess I shouldn’t believe my lying eyes.
Why just steal their car or rob their home when you can shoot them too, right? 
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When shooting up in the park isn’t counted as a crime and most of the shootings go unsolved, it is possible to explain to the people living in the worsening conditions that convictions for crime are technically down.
Not funding law enforcement can also contribute towards this positive trend. If you don’t have enough prosecutors or public defenders, many people making your town worse will never be convicted of crimes.
Doesnt that also state that murders are up, as you have been saying? Are you saying the info in the link isnt trust worthy?
Why do people always turn snarky and condescending when talking politics?
It is likely technically true, as the article is comparing against 2021. That article was speaking of Lewiston’s mass shooting in 2023, which was a massive spike in homicide. Yesterday marked 18 months since it happened.
Shootings aren’t the same thing as homicides, either. Shootings were so rare that police didn’t even track them like they do today until, oh, 2021 or so. To know the extremely low number of shots fired in the 2000s, you would have to scour the crime reports for instances of shots fired during the commission of other crimes.
I believe one of the reasons Maine makes payments to media companies as shown by the graph above is for them to run stories like that to make people believe that their policies are successful.
Anyone who lives here can tell you that Lewiston, and all of Maine’s largest towns, are WAY less safe than they were 10 years ago. It would be laughable to suggest otherwise.
Democratic Socialists have run this state since 2018, changing the very definition of crime in the process. The Homeless Crisis Protocol was implemented as part of their overall “harm reduction” strategy, which is why it isn’t a crime to shoot up in the park or outside someone’s business. I don’t think anyone gets arrested for shitting in the sidewalk.
Similarity, the school seems to operate on secrecy. Serious fights are common, even in elementary school. They used to be very rare. Same with weapons in school.
The devil is in the details, always. That’s why I am skeptical of the Boston information you linked. My sister in law worked on Rachel Rollins’ campaign, which was the same idea implemented in Maine. Decriminalizing crime. She has since been forced to resign.
Also, homicide rates are going to drop because of modern medicine, in this case specifically trauma care, so many shooting victims who would have died not that long ago are surviving. It’s the same with the military and how advances in battlefield care have reduced the numbers of troop deaths.
This is from 2013 but my point is that homicide rates don’t tell the whole story if ERs are like hi tech MASH units.
SIEGLER: Dr. Demetrios Demetriades has driven a lot of these changes since taking over County-USC’s trauma unit in 1992. Improved CT scans have helped doctors quickly pin point the extent of injuries. Blood and plasma are used liberally to try and stabilize the patient, a lesson learned from the military. But Demetriades says the biggest improvement is that there are simply more trauma centers like this available to more people.
DEMETRIADES: If you have severe trauma and you are admitted to a trauma center, your chances of survival are about 25 percent higher. This is a major progress. It makes a big difference in a big scale.
SIEGLER: Dr. Demetriades is currently studying what role the recent advancements in trauma care are playing in the declining U.S. homicide rate.