Having personally seen somebody deported, I can guarantee you that there is very little due process.
This due process bullshit is one massive stinking red herring and you have absolutely fallen for it.
Cuz now you’re crying about due process instead of illegals murdering US citizens on a subject you know fuckall about.
I’ll make a deal with you, I’ll have as much humility as trump did after his loss to Biden in 2020
I don’t expect everyone to have followed along with every discussion in here, so you likely missed the parts where I said i dont particular care THAT trump is deporting illegals, especially the criminals (their criminality I suppose you’d have to prove via due process). Deporting illegals, especially criminals, is perfectly fine with me
There’s ways to do it, and as always trump picks the worst way
Inflation has been a major problem everywhere for the past 3 years or so, because of variety of reasons (rise of demand after corona, Ukraine, bird flu, regression in global trade etc).
Stuff is like 10-30% more expensive now in Finland.
So I’m not sure if Biden or Trump is to blame here. The tariffs will definitely worse the inflation though.
Once again, you only think that because you’ve never seen it done.
Its pretty obvious that they are criminals if they’re here illegally.
And simply being here (illegally) does not necessarily guarantee due process. I don’t know if you were tuned in after 9/11 but that was a big argument at the time too with regard to prisoners of war and those found to be supporting terrorism.
So we’ll see.
Are they? Have you not read the stories of people here legally, in fact people who were born in the US, that are getting notices to self deport or else?
Heres a single one. Should these people just get rounded up and sent to el salvador without due process?
Thats just laughable man.
Their legal status is revoked. They gotta go. They’ve been made aware of the options- self deport or we’ll do it our way.
Thats that. And there’s nothing quiet about it Rubio made it very clear.
But if you have your fingers in your ears and you’re screaming about orange man bad like a 3 year old, you probably arent going to hear these updates from the department of state.
https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/utah-lawyer-self-deport-email/
Okay, heres another one for you from someone who has been here 13 years and is a full, legal citizen whos status has not been revoked
Should he get due process if the jack boots show up to cart him away?
I understand that a newfound reverence for following the law is the pretense being presented to the public. Again, where was this reverence when millions were being trafficked into the country?
It would seem to me that a more likely explanation is that Democrats’ entire plan was to import as many people as possible, get them on as many public benefits as possible, then empower them to vote in ways similar to Maine, where anyone can cast a vote in our elections.
Then, when a guy like me comes along and asks, “Have all of these people who need translators to vote REALLY passed the citizenship test?”, you call that person a racist. It really is that simple.
As far as the Constitution goes, it is silly to say I don’t give a shit about it. You presented me with a hypothetical that hasn’t happened and won’t happen, asking me to choose between Trump and an unnamed opponent who I assumed would continue to import as many people as possible. This saddles towns like Lewiston with even more impossible burdens, overwhelming EVERY SINGLE public institution that was functioning reasonably well just 10 short years ago.
Lincoln shat all over the Constitution too. Suspended writ of habeas corpus. He had no other choice. Trump is, uncoincidentally, the most hated President since Lincoln.
I don’t see what Republicans anywhere have to do with implementing voter ID in Maine. Maine has been dominated by Democrats since 2018, with the ability to implement whatever changes to Maine’s system of voting they wished. It is the way it is today because it allows non-citizens and non-resident students to vote in local and state elections. It allows them to subvert Maine law that requires US Citizenship to vote and pretend they have no idea that literally anyone can vote in a Maine election, or that it doesn’t happen.
It is on our November ballot as a ballot initiative due to a petition, not any actions by Maine Democrats, who are desperately fighting the idea on the basis that it might disenfranchise people. Never mind that every single non-citizen and non-resident who participates in our elections also disenfranchises a citizen.
That’s what confounds lefties about Maine. Democrats have dominated local and state politics for the last six years, with precious few Republicans controlling anything in government. They can’t blame anyone else, they can’t acknowledge their own policy failures, so they have now moved on to “standing against fascism”.
All while raising taxes and reversing none of their policies, radically transforming the entire state with historically unprecedented publicly-funded importation of people that not a single Democrat campaigned on.
Who is “we”? Democrats seem to be doing everything possible to stop deportations, including having a conception of “due process” that would require centuries to deport all of the illegals trafficked here by the Biden administration.
It seems obvious to me that there has been a massive effort to import a new voting bloc, which you seem to be “deflecting” from. Again, fully 1/3 of the student body at Lewiston Public Schools speaks no English. We have 42 languages spoken by those 2,000 students. I’ve listened to the teachers themselves explain the chaos, along with watching many leave the job. I’ve watched many good people simply leave Lewiston.
My son’s tuna fishing career and our roots in Lewiston are the only reason I’m still here. I’d move outside of town if the housing market wasn’t completely hosed, in no small part due to the pressure of importing so many people. It makes no financial sense for me to leave my current house unless I also leave Maine, which I likely will at some point.
If he was still in school, we would have moved long ago, but he graduated in 2018. It was only in his Jr. and Sr. year where I began to notice the institutional issues beginning to seem more serious, which resulted in him passing at least one class I wanted him to fail and repeat. He had a wonderful experience at LPS for his elementary and middle school years, when it was a fairly normal American high school with a substantial, but manageable, immigrant population.
Didnt you say that there wasnt a big uproar about them under the deporter in cheif himself Obama?
So whoever wasnt saying anything back then, thats who “we” is.
Then he has nothing to worry about.
Yep… Just like the self-admitted mistake the trump admin made when they sent the guy to el salvador.
Mistakes happen, and the goal is to minimize them and the harm they do.
We want the mistake to stop at the notice, not shipping someone off to prison. Thats the whole point of due process. Obviously this guy is on their deportation list otherwise he wouldnt have gotten the notice, so we dont want the next mistake to be him landing in prison in another country. I dont get why thats so hard to understand.
And here’s just an observation of my own.
Heres how things work. At work, with law enforcement, all kinds of ways.
So, this jack boot thug stuff, its bullshit.
Its for the people who already refused options 1 and 2.
Riiighhht… But this guy IS a US citizen
So what happens when they tell him nicely and he says “uhhh Im a citizen I dont have to deport”
And then they tell him “our little piece of paper here says you gotta go”
And he still refuses… because again, hes a US citizen that doesnt need to deport
Do they get to do it the hard way?
If they made a mistake and YOU were on their little piece of paper would YOU want due process? Or does trump have it all figured out and whatever he says goes, and I cant possible understand because Ive never seen it done before
Oh, Maryland Dad?
He’s the delivery vehicle for this entire red herring process.
Now you’re back to crying about due process while racing right past the fact that he’s a gangbanger (if you aren’t in a gang, no rival gangs will kill you, cuz you aren’t a rival!).
And a wife beater. And, and, and, …
More fodder for the Constitutional Crisis cannon.
Ahhh theres the deflection again. Cant engage meaningfully with the actual question without looking like a trump simp can you?
No, because he has the legal documentation to back up his claim.
Wrong Again!
I’m employing a logical fallacy. Its called appeal to reality.
You should familiarize yourself with it! .
And if they just decide to snatch him off the street wearing a hoodie and he doesnt have his document on him??