Theres 3 videos up above if youd like to engage in the discussion
This is the other avenue to get Trump out meaning what he actually says and further proves my point
He either didnt say the thing he said, meant something different, or speaks in Hyperbole so you cant take him seriously
Isnt the appeal of the guy he “tells it like it is”? Why do so many people feel the need to defend and deflect what he says when thats his whole appeal?
God I wish this guy would actually say what he means every once in a while
Heres Gov. Glenn Youngkin unable to admit trump said the thing that came out of his mouth too
Can anyone explain to me why so many people, including his own VP, have to deny he said the stuff coming out of his mouth or try and add words trump didnt say to make it seem like he meant something other than the thing he said?
Kinda seems like they disagree with Trump but are unwilling to admit it
If those of us who dont support Trump have Trump Derangement Syndrome what do these people have?
Whereas I use as precise words as I can when communicating, I don’t care about his exact words. I listen for his intent and his vision.
How many times did Trump, speaking of Hilary, say “lock her up”, yet the entire time he was President made no indication or effort to proceed with any legal charges against Hilary. Why did no Democrat throw accusations toward Trump for that?
In this clip, I cant see where he denies that trump said anything. I see him refuting what John Kelly said Trump said, using what other people who were also in the room say he said. . Thats why, to me- that is extremely low quality journalism.
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Using national guard to quash violent civil unrest broad property damage is relatively common in recent years. I don’t disagree with doing that at all.
You are basically saying you are voting for a guy who you hope doesnt do the things he says he is doing to do, but instead some other thing that he means he is going to do but doesnt actually say. Do I have that right?
Put another way - If Trump campaigns on “lock her up”, is a reasonable to assume that he plans to lock her up as President (imagine its 2016 and we dont know what we now know the end result is that he didnt)?
How do you know he is serious about one thing he says and not serious about another thing he says?
I see no indications that the progressive left will abandon the faith. They will just blame the voters.
I enjoy the stuff I’ve seen on youtube with media and celebrity reactions mostly out of fascination of how almost all of these people who got it completely wrong are just doubling down on everything that made them wrong.
I’m not enjoying the stuff that’s playing out in my personal circles. Some people actually believe what they read on the news and are ending friendships and family relationships because they simply cannot understand why someone wouldn’t share their hysteria.
When you call people Nazis, some folks will believe you, especially people who have no clue what a Nazi was.
There is a cut in the clip @ 52 seconds where is goes from things John Kelly said Trump said to @ 1:11 he quotes Trump as saying using the military to go after the enemy from within (Trumps direct quote, not heresay), which we both now agree (I hope) he is quoted as saying Adam Schiff is one of those people, @1:14 Vance says “He did not say that Jake”
The clip with Mike Johnson is similar. He deflects to marauding biker gangs
It is getting so old at this point that a lot of people just don’t pay attention to it. For years we were told that Trump emboldened white supremacists by saying there were “fine people on both sides”. All anyone needed to do was watch the entire clip to see him clearly state that he wasn’t talk about white supremacists, who should be condemned.
Case after case of that kind of blatant mischaracterization has squandered the credibility of mainstream media.
And yes, there are enemies within. There always have been people who want to bend government to their own purposes and lie, cheat and steal to do it.
None of that explains why they deny the things coming out of trumps mouth. That could explain why people dont take the media seriously when they report on it, but why cant Trumps VP Pick admit that he said it?
I haven’t unwound that whole ball of yarn yet, but even if everything you say is true and Trump is saying things and then saying he didn’t say them, this is always something I can dig into and figure out for myself.
Nothing I’ve read that he’s actually said is highly alarming to me when I take the time to understand it in full context, including that of his previous administration. Not that I agree with it all, but I’m confident that all of the worst predictions of his detractors are extremely unlikely to come true.
I start with the assumption that Trump is being mischaracterized at this point. There have just been too many egregious examples.
If you were awake 2017 through 2020, an intelligent person could ascertain a general knowledge of what to expect from Trump this next term.
BTW, who is naive enough to believe half of what any politician says? You do know how to tell if a politician is lying, don’t you? If his mouth is moving.
None of that explains why they keep having to deny Trump said the things he said either, but I will drop it as apparently no one is going to answer the question.
That is why, generally speaking, I go to primary sources (aka the actual video or his website). The sources here happen to be people in interviews denying Trump said the things he said so thats why I am using them
I remember as far back as people denying Trump called for a total ban on all Muslims entering the country. They just couldnt believe it, yet there it was on his website and in video of him at his campaign rally, but for the life of them they couldnt bring themselves to admit he was actually calling for that, “surely he means something other than the thing he is saying”
I agree with Vances take. He (Trump) does identify 2 enemies from within.
He does say he’d use the national gaurd on violent leftists, which I agree with.
I do not buy into the hysterics that he’s gonna send “SEAL TEAM SIX!!!” after Schiff or Pelosi. Aside from identifying them as an enemy (which I agree, they are) I haven’t seen him say how to remedy their pressence in our government, as they are duly elected representatives of their constituents.
So when a Democrat says they plan to govern a certain way do you automatically believe they will do something other than what they are campaigning on? Or is that a feature only reserved for Trump?
Wait, Vances take is that he didnt say the thing we already agreed he said.
He actually doesnt say those words in the video you linked. He says “radical left lunatics” … who we already established is who he is referring to as Pelosi and Schiff
So can you now see why I thought the comic was going the other direction? I didnt think it was going to end with “I just want to be mad at Trump” but rather “Trump didnt actually mean that when he said it”
I don’t believe any politician’s exact words. Talk is cheap. I look at the actions… Like Democrats saying the border is secure. I had to look up the definition of secure. If they keep up that use of the word “secure” as they have the last 3 years, the dictionary will add an additional definition for “secure.”